The Templar Knights, FreeMasons & Knowledge Beyond
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The All-Seeing Eye represents God. The Masons don't use a Pyramid, by the way.
Like I said, Franklin wasn't responsible for the design of the seal. It was a guy named Pierre DuSimietre (not a signatory of the Declaration of Independence) and later William Barton (not a signatory of the Declaration of Independence) who proposed the All-Seeing Eye inside a Pyramid. Plus, it took them six years to have a design approved. It was Charles Thomson (not a signatory of the Declaration of Independence) that took elements from different suggestions and came up with the final design.
Like I said, Franklin wasn't responsible for the design of the seal. It was a guy named Pierre DuSimietre (not a signatory of the Declaration of Independence) and later William Barton (not a signatory of the Declaration of Independence) who proposed the All-Seeing Eye inside a Pyramid. Plus, it took them six years to have a design approved. It was Charles Thomson (not a signatory of the Declaration of Independence) that took elements from different suggestions and came up with the final design.
the great seal of the united states is a boatload of egyptian symbolism, like people are saying the pyramid & all seeing eye, the eagle (or phoenix), the repetition of the esoterically-sacred number 13 and the motto "novus ordo seclorum" which is latin for "new order of the ages". the pyramid and all seeing on were both put on the bill by roosevelt (freemason) and his later vp henry wallace, who believed that america was chosen by god or "the gods" to lead the world in establishing the new world order. wallace was a prominent freemason and he wrote in 1934
"it will take a more definite recognition of the grand architect of the universe before the apex stone (top of the pyramid) is finally fitted into place and this nation in the full strength of its power is in position to assume leadership among the nations in inaugurating "the new order of the ages""
wallace knew that united states was always planned to be the vehicle for the final push to global disctatorship which is happening now
as for your american declaration of independence at least 50 of the 55 signatures of those that were known to be freemasons and only one is definately known not to be.
"it will take a more definite recognition of the grand architect of the universe before the apex stone (top of the pyramid) is finally fitted into place and this nation in the full strength of its power is in position to assume leadership among the nations in inaugurating "the new order of the ages""
wallace knew that united states was always planned to be the vehicle for the final push to global disctatorship which is happening now
as for your american declaration of independence at least 50 of the 55 signatures of those that were known to be freemasons and only one is definately known not to be.
The unfinished pyramid symbolizes growth. The eye represents the watchful gaze of God. Mystery solved. Now unlearn everything you think you learned.
Proof? Cause the watchfulness of God on a dollar bill makes no sense at all. You post a bunch of stuff with no explanation or proof and try to say Im ignorant?
Proof? Cause the watchfulness of God on a dollar bill makes no sense at all. You post a bunch of stuff with no explanation or proof and try to say Im ignorant?
The seal is influenced by Egypt, as at the time there was great interest in the area. There was already a pyramid on the $50 bill at the time. The number 13 represents the 13 original colonies.
Yes, FDR put the seal on the dollar bill, but the fact remains that it wasn't designed by Masons.
I'm not American, if that's addressed to me.
Yes, FDR put the seal on the dollar bill, but the fact remains that it wasn't designed by Masons.
I'm not American, if that's addressed to me.
I'm saying Washington and Franklin didn't design the Seal, nor did any other Mason.
Roosevelt put the Seal on the dollar bill, not the symbols. To say that's considerably different than what you wrote would be an understatement.
There's plenty of proof. We've put it up before ( http://www.usscouts.org/flag/sealmotto.html ). The individuals in America in the 18th century had a strong sense of "Providence," which is more like a Divine Fate than a straight adherence/worship of God himself. The idea of the watchful eye is that Divine Fate or Providence is overlooking the establishment of the American nation. It's hard to explain so I hope that cleared it up for you.
Roosevelt put the Seal on the dollar bill, not the symbols. To say that's considerably different than what you wrote would be an understatement.
There's plenty of proof. We've put it up before ( http://www.usscouts.org/flag/sealmotto.html ). The individuals in America in the 18th century had a strong sense of "Providence," which is more like a Divine Fate than a straight adherence/worship of God himself. The idea of the watchful eye is that Divine Fate or Providence is overlooking the establishment of the American nation. It's hard to explain so I hope that cleared it up for you.
Freemasonry today is nothing at all.You people are making them into something which they are not. If you people are so interested in this Freemasonry conspiracy why don't you just go and join a lounge. Work your way up the degrees and when you get to that certain degree let them tell you their secrets. Simple as that.
All you have to do is know a Mason and ask him to join his lounge. They are very cool people, you could usually tell who is a Mason by an emblem e.g. a ring, necklace, and etc. I know Scottish Rite Masons and Prince Hall Masons and could easily ask for an initation (I'm Black thats why I could go to Prince Hall lounges). I also have relatives who are Masons including my father, a former.
All you have to do is know a Mason and ask him to join his lounge. They are very cool people, you could usually tell who is a Mason by an emblem e.g. a ring, necklace, and etc. I know Scottish Rite Masons and Prince Hall Masons and could easily ask for an initation (I'm Black thats why I could go to Prince Hall lounges). I also have relatives who are Masons including my father, a former.
Simple as that.
Yes I always knew Masons was like a Boys and Girls club u can signup for. Gimme a break. It's not some lounge or some group u get into by just asking, signing up for or gettn jumped for. At least if u believe that's as easy as it is, then they mus be wanna be Masons. I'm not implementing Masons are a secret organiztion or its a friggn conspiracy. We know they exist & they know we know. That ain't the point.
not every freemason is in quest for world domination
Founding fathers being mostly Masons. Mostly masons signing constitution and declaration. hmm lemme see. rules, regulations and the system in there hands and there way. do i smell 200yrs of control? i sure do. hmm we stole texas,we took california, we killed for the west, we exterminated the natives, we bought louisiana, we gained an entire country thru bad morals. and oh guess wat we jus stole iraq..
damn am i seeing a chain here? hmm what is that? self interest? o yesssss.. did someone say Power? control? New World Order? yes i said it. yet in our precious live we are too blind to see what is going on, from day one of U.S. history. one GOAL, complete control.. a plan designed by the intelligent, by the wealthy, by the powerful, by the founding fathers. carried on by the young ones.. til its completed.
Yes I always knew Masons was like a Boys and Girls club u can signup for. Gimme a break. It's not some lounge or some group u get into by just asking, signing up for or gettn jumped for. At least if u believe that's as easy as it is, then they mus be wanna be Masons. I'm not implementing Masons are a secret organiztion or its a friggn conspiracy. We know they exist & they know we know. That ain't the point.
not every freemason is in quest for world domination
Founding fathers being mostly Masons. Mostly masons signing constitution and declaration. hmm lemme see. rules, regulations and the system in there hands and there way. do i smell 200yrs of control? i sure do. hmm we stole texas,we took california, we killed for the west, we exterminated the natives, we bought louisiana, we gained an entire country thru bad morals. and oh guess wat we jus stole iraq..
damn am i seeing a chain here? hmm what is that? self interest? o yesssss.. did someone say Power? control? New World Order? yes i said it. yet in our precious live we are too blind to see what is going on, from day one of U.S. history. one GOAL, complete control.. a plan designed by the intelligent, by the wealthy, by the powerful, by the founding fathers. carried on by the young ones.. til its completed.
Freemasonry was originally a European institution. Plenty of our founding fathers were Freemasons, and the Revolution was fought against a bunch of Freemasons.
Also, a democratic republic automatically meant the system couldn't be kept "in their hands." The framers of the Constitution designed the Congress to be the strongest body in the government, and half of that (the House of Reps) was directly elected by district. The Senate has been directly elected by people for the past 90 years, even longer in some of the states.
And if all of the founding fathers were Freemasons, why did they strongly disagree with each other? Jefferson talked major shit about Washington in the 1790s, Hamilton was a staunch opponent of the Democratic Republican Party of Jeffersonians and Madison.
How come your secret society was so politically divisive? Doesn't that contradict your entire point?
That's called imperialism. Imperialism predates Freemasonry by millenia. Guess what, countries like to increase their power. That doesn't mean every country is run by Freemasons. It means countries were ruled by officials who sought to extend their power. That's a characteristic of man, not Freemasonry.
While I agree with you on how we attained Manifest Destiny, I don't see anything immoral about buying the Louisiana Purchase from Napoleon.
Completely unrelated to Manifest Destiny. The war in Iraq was the design of a right wing conservative base, not Freemasonry.
I don't blame you for your perception of this country's imperialist history, but it's absolutely preposterous to point the blame at Freemasonry. In fact, imperialism was a prevalent theme for Western countries in the 19th century.
Was the entire continent being run by Freemasons? Was Julius Caesar a Freemason? Was Charlemagne a Freemason? Attila the Hun? At what point do you determine which greedy, power hungry conquerors can no longer be classified as Freemasons?
Also, a democratic republic automatically meant the system couldn't be kept "in their hands." The framers of the Constitution designed the Congress to be the strongest body in the government, and half of that (the House of Reps) was directly elected by district. The Senate has been directly elected by people for the past 90 years, even longer in some of the states.
And if all of the founding fathers were Freemasons, why did they strongly disagree with each other? Jefferson talked major shit about Washington in the 1790s, Hamilton was a staunch opponent of the Democratic Republican Party of Jeffersonians and Madison.
How come your secret society was so politically divisive? Doesn't that contradict your entire point?
That's called imperialism. Imperialism predates Freemasonry by millenia. Guess what, countries like to increase their power. That doesn't mean every country is run by Freemasons. It means countries were ruled by officials who sought to extend their power. That's a characteristic of man, not Freemasonry.
While I agree with you on how we attained Manifest Destiny, I don't see anything immoral about buying the Louisiana Purchase from Napoleon.
Completely unrelated to Manifest Destiny. The war in Iraq was the design of a right wing conservative base, not Freemasonry.
I don't blame you for your perception of this country's imperialist history, but it's absolutely preposterous to point the blame at Freemasonry. In fact, imperialism was a prevalent theme for Western countries in the 19th century.
Was the entire continent being run by Freemasons? Was Julius Caesar a Freemason? Was Charlemagne a Freemason? Attila the Hun? At what point do you determine which greedy, power hungry conquerors can no longer be classified as Freemasons?
I understand what u said, i'm not claiming some huge conspiracy pointing out every leader as a mason. From what I have read, they are called FreeMasons. Now if what i pointed out above is done by another majority of people that call dem themselves somethin else, then so be it. It doesnt matter to me what these people call themselfs jus the fact that they exist & these are there intentions.
The problem with your wording is that you're making it sound like one sprawling cabal or secret society.
Sure, there are corporations and governmental bodies and political bodies that have a lot of control and power and look to increase their influence and control and power. But that doesn't mean they're all part of one gigantic conspiracy.
It's just the nature of man to want more. American history is very imperialist. European history is imperialist. Asian history is imperialist, and so on. That doesn't have much to do with Freemasonry, or symbols on the Great Seal.
Sure, there are corporations and governmental bodies and political bodies that have a lot of control and power and look to increase their influence and control and power. But that doesn't mean they're all part of one gigantic conspiracy.
It's just the nature of man to want more. American history is very imperialist. European history is imperialist. Asian history is imperialist, and so on. That doesn't have much to do with Freemasonry, or symbols on the Great Seal.
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