The Templar Knights, FreeMasons & Knowledge Beyond

#1
Many people have wondered if such societies as the Illuminati exist. If theres a shadow government running the world. If theres something out there beyond us, running us, controlling us, observing us. I believe there are teachings. Teachings passed on from Ancient Egypt, to Europe. Secrets, ways of living, trade, humanity, how to control, how to do, etc. Knowledge indeed is power. If I am 10 times smarter than you, I can own you easily. I can make you do what I want. So... could this be the scenario? Are we ran by a higher power out there not known? Is there a league of humans or a council that knows so much about life that they control us? Are we living the way we are now because we choose to or because they already chose for us? The questions are indeed endless.
How deep does history go to explain how it ever came about to this day?
The Templar Knights- The "Rubant Document" claims that the Templars were very advanced for their time, thanks to secret knowledge they had obtained from books.
Somehow, the Knights had managed to find a sort of "complete and absolute knowledge", a secret wisdom that was only known to the initiated. Could the Knights of history be scattered FreeMasons of today? Hmmm... you think about that.
Many of the founding fathers of the United States, had a belief in divine guidance, though they did not speak openly about it. They were deeply committed to ancient secret societies and protecting the secrets knowledge of our creation. These men acquired the knowledge while in Europe their souls having moved from ancient Egypt to the European continent. Whether they realized it or not, their quest to set this knowledge into the foundation of the US was encoded into the blueprint of why they were born and what they came here to do. The Freemason of years gone by - were Guardians. They guarded the sacred knowledge and incorporated into the physical creation of the US - just as it was encoded into the geometric blueprint of ancient Egypt - by the Priests and the creational forces that create our reality as if computer designed.

The symbols on the dollar bill relate to the Masonic notions of the founders. The all-seeing eye comes from the Masonic symbology. The concept of the pyramid with its missing capstone links with the ancient mystery school teaching of ancient Egypt.

Masonic influence is evident in the architecture of Washington, DC where pyramids, pillars, and Numerology are repeated in nearly every official building. They follow the the sacred geometry of creation of our reality, as do most things we create.

The messages are there - when one is ready to find them.

This is not a belief or a case of myth. It's knowledge ignored, history not taught because we are all sheep to them. We are living in a world much like the Matrix we just choose to ignore it. Open your minds, read, ask, question, learn outside of what they want u to only know.
 
#2
Freemasons..Ive heard alot of talk about them but never understood what exactly they stand for..Ive read several places that Freemasons and the Illuminati are the same group of people..If any one has seen the new movie National Treasure then it has ALOT to do with this type of stuff even though the movie isnt real, it still gives you a sense of who/what they are..But other than what ive read I really have no clue what they are..

B
 

Amara

New Member
#3
I guess we can thank the Dan Browns and Ridley Scotts for the sudden resurgent thirst for ancient knowledge!

In any case, i think we are being misdirected in some ways in regards to this kind of thing. I'd suggest picking up a textbook before getting worked up about "National Treasure." Hmm, even then you still have to question the credibility of what you are reading...
 
#4
Amara said:
Hmm, even then you still have to question the credibility of what you are reading...
uhhh yeah that is exactly the point!

your first reaction is to just go get more brainwashing cause that is where the Truth lies?

Always study the source of your information, and there possible motives.
 

Rukas

Capo Dei Capi
Staff member
#5
Prophet G said:
Many people have wondered if such societies as the Illuminati exist. If theres a shadow government running the world. If theres something out there beyond us, running us, controlling us, observing us. I believe there are teachings. Teachings passed on from Ancient Egypt, to Europe. Secrets, ways of living, trade, humanity, how to control, how to do, etc. Knowledge indeed is power. If I am 10 times smarter than you, I can own you easily. I can make you do what I want. So... could this be the scenario? Are we ran by a higher power out there not known?
The Templar Revelation.

Is there a league of humans or a council that knows so much about life that they control us? Are we living the way we are now because we choose to or because they already chose for us? The questions are indeed endless.
How deep does history go to explain how it ever came about to this day?
The Templar Knights- The "Rubant Document" claims that the Templars were very advanced for their time,
I wouldnt say advanced, they had a different Religious belief system, and were very rich because they invented modern day banking. People could deposite gold at one of their ports and withdraw an equal ammount, minus a fee, elsewhere. This made traveling a lot more safer.

thanks to secret knowledge they had obtained from books.
While they did read, their knowledge or power stemmed from what they found under Solomons Temple in the tombs. Whatever it was, they used it for protection and favor from the Vatican. So they either sold it to the Vatican and remained in favor, or blackmailed the Vatican.

Prior to that they had favor with the vatican because they protected Christian pilgramiges to the holy land.

There is no evidence that they ever raided Muslims as shown in Kingdom of Heaven, at least to my knowledge.

Somehow, the Knights had managed to find a sort of "complete and absolute knowledge", a secret wisdom that was only known to the initiated.
Seems to me you've read various books, or blurbs, and you're spewing the questions they ask back on here.

Could the Knights of history be scattered FreeMasons of today?
Hmmm... you think about that.
Yes, and no. Templars went on to form Freemasonry, but in 1306 (i think, cant remember for sure), the Masons split away and rewrote a lot of their tradition and became pretty much what they are today, a gentlemens club. However a lot of the Templar tradition exists in the various rites they still practice. Scottish Freemasonry in particular can be traced back to Templars, the modern form of English Freemasonry not so much.

Many of the founding fathers of the United States, had a belief in divine guidance, though they did not speak openly about it. They were deeply committed to ancient secret societies and protecting the secrets knowledge of our creation.
Prove it.

These men acquired the knowledge while in Europe their souls having moved from ancient Egypt to the European continent.
Their souls moved hey?

Whether they realized it or not, their quest to set this knowledge into the foundation of the US was encoded into the blueprint of why they were born and what they came here to do. The Freemason of years gone by - were Guardians. They guarded the sacred knowledge and incorporated into the physical creation of the US - just as it was encoded into the geometric blueprint of ancient Egypt - by the Priests and the creational forces that create our reality as if computer designed.
Not modern Masons no. Modern masonry is a business type cult, dont get it twisted the only good they want is their own.

The symbols on the dollar bill relate to the Masonic notions of the founders. The all-seeing eye comes from the Masonic symbology. The concept of the pyramid with its missing capstone links with the ancient mystery school teaching of ancient Egypt.
Yes, several of the founding fathers were Masons. But that symbols they used were just generic Mason symbols and codes. I doubt very much they knew of the ancient Egyptian secrets.

Masonic influence is evident in the architecture of Washington, DC where pyramids, pillars, and Numerology are repeated in nearly every official building. They follow the the sacred geometry of creation of our reality, as do most things we create.

The messages are there - when one is ready to find them.

This is not a belief or a case of myth. It's knowledge ignored, history not taught because we are all sheep to them. We are living in a world much like the Matrix we just choose to ignore it. Open your minds, read, ask, question, learn outside of what they want u to only know.
Bullshit. While I do believe in secret societys that try to control us, the elite of the economic world, you give to much credit to Masons.

As I stated, Modern Freemasonry is a shadow of what they once were, theyve lost a lot of meaning to their rites and dont really know where it was started.

Scottish Freemasonry prior to that was started by Templars, who also had Grandmasters and Grand Lodges.

The Knight Templar secret is not some devine egyptian truth, to realise this you simply have to see what they did with it. They went to the Vatican and became very rich.

Thus it is either something very damning or very benefitial to the church.

You also have to look at where they found it, Solomon's Tomb.

What they probably found, was the Gosepl of John The Baptist and the early church based around John, not Jesus. They were later killed for being heratics, yet they never denied God, they did not however accept Jesus as Christ and followed John's teaching.

Either that or if you believe Da Vinci Code like claims, they found out Mary was Jesus wife and they had children together.

Either way its political religious shit, which made them very rich, and then destoryed them. Some of them escaped and to continue on they formed the Freemasons.
 

Rukas

Capo Dei Capi
Staff member
#6
ThugLifeSoulja1 said:
Freemasons..Ive heard alot of talk about them but never understood what exactly they stand for..Ive read several places that Freemasons and the Illuminati are the same group of people..If any one has seen the new movie National Treasure then it has ALOT to do with this type of stuff even though the movie isnt real, it still gives you a sense of who/what they are..But other than what ive read I really have no clue what they are..

B
No, the Illuminati were a group of scientists in the middle ages that were killed for being heretics, they were hunted and killed. Very smart men. The Freemasons offered them refuge within their group.

Some say they infiltrated the Masons and controlled them for their own gain, and control various governments and groups nowadays.

But no, they are not the same.

National Treasure was a load of crap. Kingdom of Heaven got a lot of it wrong too.
 

Flipmo

VIP Member
Staff member
#7
National Treasure can suck my dick. I saw it, and it was a load of crap.

Hey, Rukas, how was 'Kingdom Of Heaven'? You went to see it right?
 

Rukas

Capo Dei Capi
Staff member
#8
^^ It was ok. Not great. They showed the Templars as being the "bad" knights in the movie, where as Bloom and Neason's knights took the good gaurdian role of protecting the pilgrams -- which is what the Termplar's really did.

Plus, Bloom cant act, and Neason's talent was wasted. Go see it, dont expect anything great though. Seemed to be poorly edited too.
 

Bigg Limn

Well-Known Member
Staff member
#10
Hey I thought it was a pretty decent movie, and although I'm not familiar with much of the history behind the Crusades - I knew much of it was fabricated. But its Hollywood, do you expect the Truth?
 
#13
ThugLifeSoulja1 said:
Freemasons..Ive heard alot of talk about them but never understood what exactly they stand for..Ive read several places that Freemasons and the Illuminati are the same group of people..If any one has seen the new movie National Treasure then it has ALOT to do with this type of stuff even though the movie isnt real, it still gives you a sense of who/what they are..But other than what ive read I really have no clue what they are..
Rukas said:
No, the Illuminati were a group of scientists in the middle ages that were killed for being heretics, they were hunted and killed. Very smart men. The Freemasons offered them refuge within their group.

Some say they infiltrated the Masons and controlled them for their own gain, and control various governments and groups nowadays.

But no, they are not the same.
AnarchistFunk said:
Not the Bavarian Illuminati I am familar with
The Masons started out as groups of masons (builders) who would move around from place to place hiring themselves out. They formed groups or 'lodges' and secret passwords and handshakes so as to keep up a level of secrecy. Their mysterious nature attracted outsiders, who paid to become members of the group for the prestige and status. Over time they evolved into the fraternal society they are today.

The Illuminati weren't the same as the Masons, but they were linked. Many Illuminati members came from the Freemasons - Masonic lodges were used as a source of recruits - and the rituals and ceremony of the Masons was adopted by the Illuminati.

The Illumianti weren't really 'a group of scientists', but they were seeking refuge from a restrictive religious regime. They were men of science, intellectuals, heavily influenced by the Age of Enlightenment. They weren't killed for being heretics either, they were raided and shut down by the Bavarian authorities.

At no point did the Illumianti exert any real power. They had grand ideas and some important people within their organisation, but they never had the kind of influence that modern day conspiracy theorists credit them with.
 
#14
For the umpteenth time, the group of individuals that created the Seal of the United States of America did not contain a single Freemason.
 
#16
For the umpteenth time, the group of individuals that created the Seal of the United States of America did not contain a single Freemason.

says who? So ur sayn Washington & Franklin weren't Masons?
 
#17
Prophet G said:
For the umpteenth time, the group of individuals that created the Seal of the United States of America did not contain a single Freemason.

says who? So ur sayn Washington & Franklin weren't Masons?
Franklin was, but he didn't create the seal. And Washington didn't suggest the symbol of the All-Seeing Eye.

Regardless, the All-Seeing Eye was a well-known symbol, far from exclusive to the Masons.
 

Rukas

Capo Dei Capi
Staff member
#18
Illuminattile said:
The Masons started out as groups of masons (builders) who would move around from place to place hiring themselves out. They formed groups or 'lodges' and secret passwords and handshakes so as to keep up a level of secrecy. Their mysterious nature attracted outsiders, who paid to become members of the group for the prestige and status. Over time they evolved into the fraternal society they are today.
Their rituals date back to Templar rituals.

The Illumianti weren't really 'a group of scientists', but they were seeking refuge from a restrictive religious regime. They were men of science, intellectuals, heavily influenced by the Age of Enlightenment. They weren't killed for being heretics either, they were raided and shut down by the Bavarian authorities.
You're right I worded it wrong, not scientists, men of science. They were however killed by the Vatican as were the Freemasons.
 
#19
Regardless, the All-Seeing Eye was a well-known symbol, far from exclusive to the Masons.

So what does the All-Seeing Eye on a Pyramid clarify on the dollar bill ? Is it there because it looks neat? What I believe is that there is a third eye in the teachings of FreeMasons. And the third eye represents knowledge beyond all, the ability to see passed things. And that is the secrecy kept in Masons, the power of knowledge above others. Ancient teachings that is. I dont think necessarily the All-Seeing Eye is the symbol of Masons but because most of the signers of the Dec. of inde. were Masons, they imprinted there belief system, teachings and such on money. FreeMasons whom some are known to be very wealthy and powerful. Who knows, there teachings may consist of trade, financial things. That is why that eye is on the dollar bill, to show that they contain the knowledge of the 3rd eye blind which is basically Money, aka Power. What does the Pyramid symbolize? Like I said, ancient teachings of possibly of the egytpians. Because if you look at American History, what the hell does a pyramid have to do with us? Egyptian secrecy teachings combined with there 3rd eye blind teachings (knowledge such a geometrics). People conspirasize and claim oh oh there a secret organization. There not, they well enough exist. The thing is, they know we know... BUT they also know we ain't gonna do anythin bout it, as they twirl us on there fingers.
 

Jokerman

Well-Known Member
#20
The unfinished pyramid symbolizes growth. The eye represents the watchful gaze of God. Mystery solved. Now unlearn everything you think you learned.
 

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