The mind..

#21
Illuminattile said:
Did you pay money for this book?
You make it sound like my quote is devoid of sense. No I didn't pay for the book, it's on loan from the library.

The quote is based on the principles of Zen. The Master says 'walk on' because the student is on his path to enlightenment, the student is questioning what the mind is because he doesn't know. The master recognizes this as a proper perspective and encourages his student to continue on his way.

Socrates claimed he was the smartest because he knew nothing.
 
#22
i learnt in first year psychology that the myth that we only use 10% of our brain is false. the brain has many functions and many seperate parts that specialise in various functions (seeing, hearing, memory, body metabolism etc). we use different parts at different times, but we are pretty much using our brain to its full capacity.
 

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#25
The_One said:
This is a psycholgical model of the mind that i got from a book i was reading years ago.


A is the spotlight of attention shining upon a tankful of water. The sides of this lap a1 and a2 can, by methods which teach the art of mental concentration, be lengethened so that they nearly touch the water. In that case the attention is not wandering bt concentrated. The lamp, we will imagine, can be moved on a swivel, to shine on anything gloating in the tank, but in the case of concentration it is at rest. The area B is the focus of consciousness. The material floating on the surface of the water which is in the area B is the material on which attention is being concentrated. The areas c1 and c2 are the fringe of consciiousness. Matierial floating there is in consciousness, but not in the focus of consciousness, and not under bright concentrated rays of attention.
The Line D1-D2, the level of the water, is the level of consciousness. But just under the surface of the water is a mesh. We could like it to fine, wire netting the mesh of which we can to some extent control. Below is the area of water marked E, which we call the subconcious or, as some psychologists call it, the fore-cosciousness or pre-conscious. This is the area of the mind from which we can bring into consciousneess memories or impressions if we want to do so. (example your not thinking at the moment of what you had for dinner last night, unless, indeed it has been giving u many happy returns ever since - yet you can easily bring that memory to consciousness, and probably have already done so after reading this. The memory was in the area E, and quite easily slipped through the mesh to the area B, or perhas reached the surface at C (dimly remembereed) and the floated along till it entered B.)

Below the sub-concious area is the uncosios Of course actually no one can pretend to draw a line and say "here the subconcious ends and the unconscious begins." All areas of the mind shade off, one into another. But for the sake of clarity, we may suppose a line separting the areas. At F1 - F2 is the line, imagine here another mess, a seive stretching across the tank and in this case the size of the holes is not controllable by the normal personality.. This mesh is called by some psychologists the edo-psychic censor. Below it is the vast depth of unconscious, in which area are all the impressions, knowledge, memories, ideas which the mind has ever had and which are not conscious or subconscious. This area G is normally accessible. Below the level G is what jung has called "the race mind" (H in the diagram). It is conjecturerd - and of course all these levels are in the realm of conjecture- that in teh depths of of the mind are race memories: Memories which we bring over from our ancesotors. This is an area where human nature and instict is planted.

Anyway we only use 10% of our mind at any time, but alot of it is still accessible which stores and archives everything we go through. Just because we forget it doesn't mean that it's not still there. This is where hypnosis and other stuff comes in. My best friend is a neuro-psychologist and she's been able to hypnotise people and retrieve memories as early as when they were a year old. These memories are in the G section which are brought back up to the surface.

So it pretty much all comes down to the concious and sub-concious.
Which makes alot of sense. Especially by the psychological model. One question is that, would we ever be able to put more enlightenment to the areas semi-conciousness or sub-concious. IE. Turn the subconcious to concious.

Hypnotizing? Oh yeah? That must be quite a show to see, especially that less and less psychologists specialize in it, but the interesting part of it is how it opens up the mind to things the patient would not ever reveal if he was awake.
 
#26
I've heard this theory a lot and to an extent I believe we don't use our full capacity but thats a whole other theory anyways.
7 Syns I like the sig with the 7 deadly sins.
anyways regardless. Thats my theory.

The mind is separated in 2 the only difference is how they are used:awake or asleep.

As far as having "powers" like hypnotizing or telepathic stuff well that remains to be seen I'm sketchy on the whole if you use more intelligence then you possess its power theory.

Anyways that model is more complicated imo opinion then it really is.

When you break it down the image is simple but the fuctions is whats complex. In any situation we will probably never know how much of our mind we use, why, how and how its made up so really its something out if our hands but who knows maybe we'll one day we'll figure it out maybe we'll do what Pac once said he'd do. We may not change the world but spark the brain of one who can. Maybe if we are lucky enough might just be one person off tb.
 

Salar

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#27
FlipMo said:
So it pretty much all comes down to the concious and sub-concious.
Which makes alot of sense. Especially by the psychological model. One question is that, would we ever be able to put more enlightenment to the areas semi-conciousness or sub-concious. IE. Turn the subconcious to concious.

Hypnotizing? Oh yeah? That must be quite a show to see, especially that less and less psychologists specialize in it, but the interesting part of it is how it opens up the mind to things the patient would not ever reveal if he was awake.
whoa... was that a sentence? it seemed like you were having a debate with yourself there.
 

Flipmo

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#28
lol.. what do you mean if that was a sentence. I wasn't, I was asking you the question and the hypnotizing part was about your friend whose a neuro-psychologist.

I was just too lazy to quote everything so bear with me my hugh heffnerish friend.
 

Salar

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#29
well when i got hypnotised by her i apparently spilled some weird shit to her. I can't remember anything during that period, but she told me what i said which was rather twisted. I don't know it is? You tell me.
 

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