The mind..

7 Syns

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#1
They say that we use less then 10% of our mind in anytime of our existence. The mind is, the key or the mainsframe to everything our body does and respond to as we know. Some say it's more important than the heart, lungs and what-so connected which is true.

However, has anyone ever wondered what lies beneath the other 90% in which we don't use? Some say we get enabled psychic or telekentic energy waves which inherits us to look into other's thoughts or even move matter with a simple thought. On some jedi shit basically in lamans terms.

But ive always wondered one thing, actually a few things to do with this whole theory and ask a question or two about it. As you know when we get hurt or want to move our fingers or any part of the body our mind tells it to move or tells the part of the body "hey, ya hurt.. so hurt" etc..

If we were to progres in our mind control could it be hypothetically possible to build our muscles and extinguish our hunger with a couple of thoughts? I mean if our mind enables us to move say the hand, I don't see how with more control over our own mind we couldn't build our muscles by simply telling them to get stronger. Ofcourse when food is concerned we need to eat or do we? The only thing I think our bodies need to be substained is oxygen and water.

I dunno, im little learn-ed about this whole topic but id like y'all to share your theories or links to sites or anything to do with mind, mind control and the possibilities.

I think before we travel anymore into space or try to finally reach the depths of the oceans, we should try and uncover our own mind.

peace.
 
#4
Who knows, there is no evidence to suggest that a 'mind' actually exists anyway.

With that post, you probably speak for yourself. =D
 

Salar

The One, The Only
#5
This is a psycholgical model of the mind that i got from a book i was reading years ago.


A is the spotlight of attention shining upon a tankful of water. The sides of this lap a1 and a2 can, by methods which teach the art of mental concentration, be lengethened so that they nearly touch the water. In that case the attention is not wandering bt concentrated. The lamp, we will imagine, can be moved on a swivel, to shine on anything gloating in the tank, but in the case of concentration it is at rest. The area B is the focus of consciousness. The material floating on the surface of the water which is in the area B is the material on which attention is being concentrated. The areas c1 and c2 are the fringe of consciiousness. Matierial floating there is in consciousness, but not in the focus of consciousness, and not under bright concentrated rays of attention.
The Line D1-D2, the level of the water, is the level of consciousness. But just under the surface of the water is a mesh. We could like it to fine, wire netting the mesh of which we can to some extent control. Below is the area of water marked E, which we call the subconcious or, as some psychologists call it, the fore-cosciousness or pre-conscious. This is the area of the mind from which we can bring into consciousneess memories or impressions if we want to do so. (example your not thinking at the moment of what you had for dinner last night, unless, indeed it has been giving u many happy returns ever since - yet you can easily bring that memory to consciousness, and probably have already done so after reading this. The memory was in the area E, and quite easily slipped through the mesh to the area B, or perhas reached the surface at C (dimly remembereed) and the floated along till it entered B.)

Below the sub-concious area is the uncosios Of course actually no one can pretend to draw a line and say "here the subconcious ends and the unconscious begins." All areas of the mind shade off, one into another. But for the sake of clarity, we may suppose a line separting the areas. At F1 - F2 is the line, imagine here another mess, a seive stretching across the tank and in this case the size of the holes is not controllable by the normal personality.. This mesh is called by some psychologists the edo-psychic censor. Below it is the vast depth of unconscious, in which area are all the impressions, knowledge, memories, ideas which the mind has ever had and which are not conscious or subconscious. This area G is normally accessible. Below the level G is what jung has called "the race mind" (H in the diagram). It is conjecturerd - and of course all these levels are in the realm of conjecture- that in teh depths of of the mind are race memories: Memories which we bring over from our ancesotors. This is an area where human nature and instict is planted.

Anyway we only use 10% of our mind at any time, but alot of it is still accessible which stores and archives everything we go through. Just because we forget it doesn't mean that it's not still there. This is where hypnosis and other stuff comes in. My best friend is a neuro-psychologist and she's been able to hypnotise people and retrieve memories as early as when they were a year old. These memories are in the G section which are brought back up to the surface.
 
#6
7 Syns said:
They say that we use less then 10% of our mind in anytime of our existence. The mind is, the key or the mainsframe to everything our body does and respond to as we know. Some say it's more important than the heart, lungs and what-so connected which is true.

However, has anyone ever wondered what lies beneath the other 90% in which we don't use? Some say we get enabled psychic or telekentic energy waves which inherits us to look into other's thoughts or even move matter with a simple thought. On some jedi shit basically in lamans terms.

But ive always wondered one thing, actually a few things to do with this whole theory and ask a question or two about it. As you know when we get hurt or want to move our fingers or any part of the body our mind tells it to move or tells the part of the body "hey, ya hurt.. so hurt" etc..

If we were to progres in our mind control could it be hypothetically possible to build our muscles and extinguish our hunger with a couple of thoughts? I mean if our mind enables us to move say the hand, I don't see how with more control over our own mind we couldn't build our muscles by simply telling them to get stronger. Ofcourse when food is concerned we need to eat or do we? The only thing I think our bodies need to be substained is oxygen and water.

I dunno, im little learn-ed about this whole topic but id like y'all to share your theories or links to sites or anything to do with mind, mind control and the possibilities.

I think before we travel anymore into space or try to finally reach the depths of the oceans, we should try and uncover our own mind.

peace.

I'm not a biology student but I can tell you that we do need food. Solid subtances that can be broken down in the stomach which contain protiens, vitamins, calcuim etc... The reason you eat is to be able to mantain your body (your organs, muscles, your growth etc...). For example, you can survive a good while with out food but with water and still you'll end up dying anyway from mal-nutrition.

Now here's what I could say, if we were able to utilize more mind power then I think we could do things such as mask the hunger to be able to last more. You remember that girl that feels no pain because she has that rare disease which for instance... If she drinks hot hot hot soup, she won't feel it... or if she cuts her hand, she won't feel it... So if it happened by accident, then I believe maybe.. . just maybe with this new found ability to control your mind, you could make the pain go away... you could mask the hunger you're feeling... But I don't believe your mind has the ability to simply say "Ok you only need water, don't eat food". But with those countless theories about Aliens or whatever... How they are a far advanced race then ours, and the reason they're heads are so huge are because their brains have highly evovled and they have come to the point where they don't need to use verbal speech... They communicate through the power of the mind.... I'm not saying I believe or disbelieve in aliens... The point here is the fact... It's possible what you are saying, because really... We have no idea what we can do with 90% more mind power... :thumb:
 
#7
7 Syns said:
They say that we use less then 10% of our mind in anytime of our existence.
That's not true.

And like Tru Principle said above, pain is just the body's way of telling us we're in peril. If you could stop yourself from feeling pain, you'd still be able to damage yourself. Analgesia is the inability to feel pain, and it's not something we would benefit from having. Without pain, you could set yourself on fire without realising it. Pain isn't a bad thing, it's a necessary function of the human body. Same with hunger. If you remove the feeling of hunger, you're still going to starve to death.
 

Flipmo

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Staff member
#8
Wasn't there someone that had a quote once that said something like: 'Those whom use more than 11-12% of their brains have usually been known as genius like Einstein, or Madness like Hitler'

...For some reason it rings a bell.
 
#9
To answer the bit where you asked if we could build muscles through using the power of our mind.

There was an experiment carried out some time ago where a certain amount of people were made to picture themselves working out in their mind (mental rehershal) and they actually increased their muscle mass by a small amount (2-3%) just from picturing themselves working out over a period of time, to me that just shows how powerful the mind can be.
 
#11
When we say we use around 10% of the mind, it doesn't mean that using a larger percentage makes you smarter

the mind is like:
2 to 5 % consciousness
2 to 5 % unconsciousness
and the rest is subconsciusness

the ability to think and to reason is only a small part of the mind, the rest is things like memory, instincts, reactions, knowledge...
 

Salar

The One, The Only
#14
Default MX said:
^ ... the thing that illumi posted went against everything you just said ... sooo ... shut up
But if you look at the post i made, the thing illumi said scratches my post which i earlier made as well. But my post is an actual psychological diagram simpliified for everyone to understand

FLIPMO get in here. Confirm me you bastard. (he's a psychology student)
 

Duke

Well-Known Member
Staff member
#15
We use our minds as an accelerator with a brick stuck underneath.

And we ourselves don't know how to remove the brick.

It's funny.

ANyway, like The One posted, that would be the most plausible idea. We might not consciously use more than 10%, but much of our brain does things subconsciously and a LOT is used for memory storage. So it's not like we use 10% and leave the 90% completely untouched.

I do wonder what we would be capable of if we could have full 100% control....
 

Jokerman

Well-Known Member
#16
It's not about using a percentage of the mind; it's about making an effort. Most ppl don't make much of a mental effort. Those who say "we only use 10 percent" are making the same point, not giving an exact figure, since it's in no way measureable. They say 10 percent because when you want to make that point as a percentage, the first handy figure that comes to mind is 10 percent. But it's just a number off the top of their heads and they could have said anything. In fact if they wanted to sound like they were giving an exact figure they should say 13 percent or 12.8 percent. 6.3453 percent.

I would say in his normal state, man lives in a mere corner of his mind. We possess such immense resources of power that we mostly fail to tap.
 
#17
7 Syns said:
They say that we use less then 10% of our mind in anytime of our existence. The mind is, the key or the mainsframe to everything our body does and respond to as we know. Some say it's more important than the heart, lungs and what-so connected which is true.

However, has anyone ever wondered what lies beneath the other 90% in which we don't use? Some say we get enabled psychic or telekentic energy waves which inherits us to look into other's thoughts or even move matter with a simple thought. On some jedi shit basically in lamans terms.

But ive always wondered one thing, actually a few things to do with this whole theory and ask a question or two about it. As you know when we get hurt or want to move our fingers or any part of the body our mind tells it to move or tells the part of the body "hey, ya hurt.. so hurt" etc..

If we were to progres in our mind control could it be hypothetically possible to build our muscles and extinguish our hunger with a couple of thoughts? I mean if our mind enables us to move say the hand, I don't see how with more control over our own mind we couldn't build our muscles by simply telling them to get stronger. Ofcourse when food is concerned we need to eat or do we? The only thing I think our bodies need to be substained is oxygen and water.

I dunno, im little learn-ed about this whole topic but id like y'all to share your theories or links to sites or anything to do with mind, mind control and the possibilities.

I think before we travel anymore into space or try to finally reach the depths of the oceans, we should try and uncover our own mind.

peace.
Does the body rule the mind or does the mind rule the body?

I'm certain there exists some element of mind over matter.

My favourite anology of the mind is that of mucky water. You leave it alone and it goes clear (as is the aim of meditation), you disturb it and it gets messed up (you get confused).

I believe the mind is where the conscience resides, and the mind in that conscience is a complete void of emptiness, and experiences manifest as though we were Catching Feelings - like catching butterflys in a net.


A quote from a book on Zen Wisdom (by Timothy Freke) I am reading:

Student: " Master, what is the mind? "

Master: " Walk on. "
 

Duke

Well-Known Member
Staff member
#20
Jokerman said:
Student: "Master, is it not wise to be a fool?"

Master: (Shaolin kicks him in the head)
Haha, makes me think of Socrates. Damn, that guy must've been the most annoying bastard ever in greek history.
 

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