The body too, is but numbers.

[Rukas]

LOL @ bending your brain, its not that hard of a concept, we learnt it this year in grade 11 physics

thers not much to share, basically jus wut rukas said, time is made up by humans, to organise when certain events happen.

im sur thers more to it, but i still don think its that complicated of a concept

Well you should have listened in class more.

There theory is that it's not as simple as wel simply invted time to put an order to everything, the theory is that everything happens at the same time, and then we sort it, that everything is happening at the same time, constantly, at the same instant, but our brain makes sense of it. We're being born right now, we're dying right now.

 

[Rukas]

Yellow isn’t really yellow, we know this as a fact. We feel it, we see it, and we think it is what we see, but who says the way our eyes interpret light is the way it actually is? Colors are just the exclusion of matter absorbing a particular light wave. We interpret it as yellow. So what does a pencil actually look like, especially if color doesn't exist anywhere but in our minds?

As a kid I used to look up at the sky and wonder if what I knew to be blue, was the same as other people knew to be blue. Maybe blue for me is really yellow for someone else, but we wouldnt know, because you've just come to know that yellow as being blue and its normal. How do I explain the color blue? It's like the sky, like water, etc etc. But if yellow replaced everything blue in the world, it would just seem normal and we wouldnt even know that someone else saw it as something different.

Is physical matter actually...physical?

Of course it is.

 

[Duke]

Well you should have listened in class more.

There theory is that it's not as simple as wel simply invted time to put an order to everything, the theory is that everything happens at the same time, and then we sort it, that everything is happening at the same time, constantly, at the same instant, but our brain makes sense of it. We're being born right now, we're dying right now.

What do you mean everything happens at the same time? I am not drinking my lemonade right now. I will in a minute. Time is the human word given to the (natural) flow of events. Same as colour is the human idea given to the way our brain deals with the information our eyes gather.

But as the pencil is never universally yellow and the sky is never universally blue, the flow of events will not change per individual case.

What does the theory really tries to say?

 

[Pittsey]

As a kid I used to look up at the sky and wonder if what I knew to be blue, was the same as other people knew to be blue. Maybe blue for me is really yellow for someone else, but we wouldnt know, because you've just come to know that yellow as being blue and its normal. How do I explain the color blue? It's like the sky, like water, etc etc. But if yellow replaced everything blue in the world, it would just seem normal and we wouldnt even know that someone else saw it as something different.

I done that too. There's no way you can test the theory either.

 

[Diaz]

I dont believe other people see color different mainly because I couldn't imagine someone seeing human skin as a different color. If a girl was blue I wouldn't really find her attractive.

 

[Rukas]

I dont believe other people see color different mainly because I couldn't imagine someone seeing human skin as a different color. If a girl was blue I wouldn't really find her attractive.

If you cant comprehend the fact that you would find her attractive simply because that would seem normal to you and you too would have "blue" skin, then please stay out of this thread and words of wisdom.

You just failed the IQ test.

Have a nice day.

 

[Diaz]

If you cant comprehend the fact that you would find her attractive simply because that would seem normal to you and you too would have "blue" skin, then please stay out of this thread and words of wisdom.

You just failed the IQ test.

Have a nice day.

So you actually think that some people see you as blue? Come on, this whole thing is stupid. And I'm aware that if that was the case that blue skin would be considered normal, but to think of it is just stupid. Our Science teacher said that things reflect certain colors, the human brain doesn't just assign things certain colors

 

[Glockmatic]

So you actually think that some people see you as blue? Come on, this whole thing is stupid. And I'm aware that if that was the case that blue skin would be considered normal, but to think of it is just stupid. Our Science teacher said that things reflect certain colors, the human brain doesn't just assign things certain colors

Correct. The only way 2 people see different things is either one is colourblind or one can see other lights such as ultraviolet. A green leaf is a green leaf to everyone, it cannot be blue.

 

[Rukas]

Correct. The only way 2 people see different things is either one is colourblind or one can see other lights such as ultraviolet. A green leaf is a green leaf to everyone, it cannot be blue.

But how can you prove that what I see as green is the same green you see? How can you prove that all eyes interpret the green light the same?

 

[Rukas]

So you actually think that some people see you as blue? Come on, this whole thing is stupid. And I'm aware that if that was the case that blue skin would be considered normal, but to think of it is just stupid. Our Science teacher said that things reflect certain colors, the human brain doesn't just assign things certain colors

No shit sherlock, the human brain doesnt assign different colors, but it may interpret them differently.

Really, you dont know what the fuck you're talking about, just like you didnt in the glow in the dark pig thread.

You were an ok poster when all you did was go into funny threads, but you're just annoying when you stumble accross intellectual threads and post stupid replies about topics that go totally over your head and then act like your opinion, which misses the point totally, is so much smarter than anyone elses or the debate at hand.

 

[Pittsey]

Correct. The only way 2 people see different things is either one is colourblind or one can see other lights such as ultraviolet. A green leaf is a green leaf to everyone, it cannot be blue.

You and Diaz have missed the point.

We are seeing the same colour. Just my blue is your red, and vice versa. I call it red and you call it red. But to me it looks like your "blue" and to you it looks my "red". See what I'm saying. What looks normal to me wouldn't look normal to you.

It can never be proven.

 

[Glockmatic]

You and Diaz have missed the point.

We are seeing the same colour. Just my blue is your red, and vice versa. I call it red and you call it red. But to me it looks like your "blue" and to you it looks my "red". See what I'm saying. What looks normal to me wouldn't look normal to you.

It can never be proven.

so you're pretty much changing the words around? Like if the English began calling green PURPLE and the Americans called purple GREEN they would see different colours? Its just a changing of words

 

[KAMIKAZI]

Although it's a possibility that we see different colors, I just find it highly unlikely, no need to reply to this because I already understand your point of view.

 

[Pittsey]

so you're pretty much changing the words around? Like if the English began calling green PURPLE and the Americans called purple GREEN they would see different colours? Its just a changing of words

I can't make it any more simple than I did.

No. Not changing the words.

 

[Khaled]

So you actually think that some people see you as blue? Come on, this whole thing is stupid. And I'm aware that if that was the case that blue skin would be considered normal, but to think of it is just stupid. Our Science teacher said that things reflect certain colors, the human brain doesn't just assign things certain colors

think of it this way:
-there's no way imo that can prove that you see as yellow is not what i see as green...

actually, i even think it's very likely that we don't see things the same way. not just colors.
let's extend it to other senses.

it's understandable that people have different tastes. you might like hot dogs, but others might think it's disgusting. maybe what hot dog tastes to you tastes like shit to me... this is a lot easier to accept than colors.

same way with hearing. Maybe what i hear when heavy metal is played is what others hear when rap music is playing...

even more logical, you might find a girl attractive, others might find her ugly... (that's not weird)

the same way, what do you know about what i know about the color red????

 

[Cooper]

You and Diaz have missed the point.

We are seeing the same colour. Just my blue is your red, and vice versa. I call it red and you call it red. But to me it looks like your "blue" and to you it looks my "red". See what I'm saying. What looks normal to me wouldn't look normal to you.

It can never be proven.

I know what u mean

 

[Duke]

It may not be proven that it's the exact same colour. There are variations, of course. But when you consider that we are of the same design, the variations in colour perception are most likely not considerable enough to make your blue my red.

A person's eyes must really be awkwardly configured to percieve that part of the spectrum as red when its supposed to be blue by design.

I think its safe to assume that my red is your red and my blue is your blue. My lightbrown may be your sandy red however.

Not to mention that red and blue are extreme (and maybe unfit) examples since they are on opposites of our visible spectrum.

It's kind of saying that there maybe is an Atlantis still. Maybe. But probably not.

 

[Khaled]

It may not be proven that it's the exact same colour. There are variations, of course. But when you consider that we are of the same design, the variations in colour perception are most likely not considerable enough to make your blue my red.

A person's eyes must really be awkwardly configured to percieve that part of the spectrum as red when its supposed to be blue by design.

I think its safe to assume that my red is your red and my blue is your blue. My lightbrown may be your sandy red however.

Not to mention that red and blue are extreme (and maybe unfit) examples since they are on opposites of our visible spectrum.

It's kind of saying that there maybe is an Atlantis still. Maybe. But probably not.

not sure what you mean by "same design"
we are not all the same if that s what you re trying to say. (rf my previous post)

 

[Glockmatic]

not sure what you mean by "same design"
we are not all the same if that s what you re trying to say. (rf my previous post)

I think it means that we our eyes are pretty much all the same in how they work; they take in light that is not absorbed from the object it is reflected off of. The only way they could see another colour is if they're brain was totally fucked or they could see another light we cannot see (such as ultraviolet or xray etc)

 

[Jokerman]

Duke is right. Except for the Atlantis part.

Read up on the eye and the part of the brain that's involved in sight.