Spain Legalises Gay Marriage

k69atie

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GAY MARRIAGE LEGALISED

Spanish authorities have legalised gay marriage, amid huge controversy and protests in the country on the topic.

The Spanish parliament defied conservatives and the clergy, who opposed the move.


Anti-gay marriage campaigners blocked the streets of Madrid recently in a demonstration they said was for family rights.

Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero said Spain is "not the first country and I am sure we will not be the last" to adopt such a law.

The country, which is traditionally Roman Catholic, is the third country in the world to allow the same sex unions.

Canada approved gay weddings on Wednesday this week.

The 350-seat Congress of Deputies in Spain voted 187 in favor of approval and 147 against with four abstentions.

The rest of the lawmakers were not present for the historic vote on the bill, which was sponsored by the ruling Socialists.

The law was proposed by Mr Zapatero and his ruling Socialist party as part of an agenda for bold social reforms just a year after taking office.

It gives gay couples the same rights to inheritance and to adopt children as heterosexual married couples.

The first marriages of gay couples can begin after the law is published in Spain's official journal, expected as early as 15 days, gay rights activists said.
 

S. Fourteen

Well-Known Member
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^ I guess that all depends on the your definition of what marriage is. To me marriage is commitment between two people in love. It doesn't matter if I think homosexuality is digusting or wrong, what I think doesn't change the fact of gay people falling in love and I don't find anything wrong with commitment.
 
#4
k69atie said:
The country, which is traditionally Roman Catholic, is the third country in the world to allow the same sex unions.
Spain is the fourth country to allow legalise gay marriage, after The Netherlands, Belgium and Canada. Only Spain and Canada give homosexual couples exactly the same rights as heterosexual couples, though.
 

Sebastian

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#5
saltynuts said:
^ I guess that all depends on the your definition of what marriage is. To me marriage is commitment between two people in love. It doesn't matter if I think homosexuality is digusting or wrong, what I think doesn't change the fact of gay people falling in love and I don't find anything wrong with commitment.

i dont think its about your personal definition.

marriage is a religious term (or it is connected with religion) therefore it is between man and woman. its not changeable.
 

S. Fourteen

Well-Known Member
#6
beReal said:
i dont think its about your personal definition.

marriage is a religious term (or it is connected with religion) therefore it is between man and woman. its not changeable.
If marriage is a religious term and if it's connected to a religion then what should a non-religious person do when he or she wants to get married? If the person doesn't believe in a religion then anything that religion says means nothing.

-The legal union of a man and woman as husband and wife.
-The state of being married; wedlock.
-A common-law marriage.
-A union between two persons having the customary but usually not the legal force of marriage: a same-sex marriage.
-A wedding
-A close union

Those are the definitions I found. Everybody's got their own.
 

Glockmatic

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#7
Illuminattile said:
Spain is the fourth country to allow legalise gay marriage, after The Netherlands, Belgium and Canada. Only Spain and Canada give homosexual couples exactly the same rights as heterosexual couples, though.
actually it is officially the 3rd. Canada passed the bill to legalize it, but it is not written into our charter yet, it will still need to pass a bunch of things to get onto it.
 
#8
Glockmatic said:
actually it is officially the 3rd. Canada passed the bill to legalize it, but it is not written into our charter yet, it will still need to pass a bunch of things to get onto it.
Oh right. The way the article mentioned Canada right after saying "Spain is the third country..." made it sound like it was saying "Spain is the third country, Canada being one of the other two".
 

Sebastian

Well-Known Member
#9
saltynuts said:
If marriage is a religious term and if it's connected to a religion then what should a non-religious person do when he or she wants to get married?
well theoretically a non-religious person shouldnt marry or at least it doesnt seem to make much sense.

marriage is basically undeniable connected with god/faith/religion. if you want to marry you ask for the blessing of god, that he will protect the marriage or something (im not sure about it). so if you dont believe in god, it seems illogical.


saltynuts said:
If the person doesn't believe in a religion then anything that religion says means nothing.
thats not true. religion can say something and it still could mean something for me. well not because of the fact the religion says it rather than believing what is said is true.
 
#10
saltynuts said:
^ I guess that all depends on the your definition of what marriage is. To me marriage is commitment between two people in love. It doesn't matter if I think homosexuality is digusting or wrong, what I think doesn't change the fact of gay people falling in love and I don't find anything wrong with commitment.

I agree but I hate your signature. HATE your signature. HATE IT!
 
#11
beReal said:
i dont think its about your personal definition.

marriage is a religious term (or it is connected with religion) therefore it is between man and woman. its not changeable.


that's right, marriage should only be between a man and a women.
 
#12
beReal said:
well theoretically a non-religious person shouldnt marry or at least it doesnt seem to make much sense.

marriage is basically undeniable connected with god/faith/religion. if you want to marry you ask for the blessing of god, that he will protect the marriage or something (im sure about it). so if you dont believe in god, it seems illogical.
Wrong. If you get married at the registry office you need not be asking for the blessing of God.

Outwith the closeness & love shared between the two people, marriage is either a matter of religion, legality, or both.

In the case of a non-religious couple, it's obviously a matter of legality.

Then, what happens when you have a religious homosexual couple? I wonder if any rebel religious leaders will marry them.
 

k69atie

SicC's Love
#13
Illuminattile said:
Spain is the fourth country to allow legalise gay marriage, after The Netherlands, Belgium and Canada. Only Spain and Canada give homosexual couples exactly the same rights as heterosexual couples, though.

I didn't write it, it was copied off sky news. Thanks for the info :)
 
#14
saltynuts said:
non-religious person do when he or she wants to get married?
Contradiction.
They don't get married, they make a home have children and when something better comes along they're free to jump ship if they want.

And the whole legality issue of marriage is also from religion!
 

Sebastian

Well-Known Member
#15
CalcuoCuchicheo said:
Wrong. If you get married at the registry office you need not be asking for the blessing of God.

Outwith the closeness & love shared between the two people, marriage is either a matter of religion, legality, or both.

In the case of a non-religious couple, it's obviously a matter of legality.

Then, what happens when you have a religious homosexual couple? I wonder if any rebel religious leaders will marry them.
of course i was not talking about marriage at the registry office!
 

S. Fourteen

Well-Known Member
#16
I wonder if any rebel religious leaders will marry them.
Just ask a gay religious leader to do it. Plenty of them out there.

religion can say something and it still could mean something for me. well not because of the fact the religion says it rather than believing what is said is true.
What if you don't believe in it?

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[edit] for the sake of the thread and fairness, I've deleted this portion of the post about Wal Mart. Thanks.
 
#19
beReal said:
i dont think its about your personal definition.

marriage is a religious term (or it is connected with religion) therefore it is between man and woman. its not changeable.
Yea cause marriage is oh so holy these days. GET A FUCKING LIFE and get out of other peoples. Last time i checked they werent raping children like michael jackson.

Let gay people do whatever the fuck they want to do. You self righteous pricks really need to worry about your own fucking lives...damn it you people really piss me off. worry about your damn self. who the fuck cares if gays want to marry, like their hurting you in any way...assholes.
 

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