People who benefit from tax payers

[Devious]

I don't think it's far-fetched at all. It would be their immediate families. If my son went to jail, I did something wrong somewhere whilst parenting. Are you stating that everyone as a whole should pay for the criminals as opposed to the mother/father etc of the criminal? Fuck that. Why should I have to pay for their bad ass child if they don't want to? Perhaps if people know their loved ones will suffer if they go to jail, they'll stop doing stupid stuff to get put there. I'm sure Bob Criminal doesn't want his wife to have to take four jobs to afford to keep him in jail, so maybe he'll straighten up and fly right. I'd rather my taxes go to pay people's hospital bills rather than their jail stay. Plus they can enforce that it's bad off. While on parole they have to have a job. So, they have to pay a portion of that to their jail stay. If not, they garnish their wages. They do that for child support, do it for their jail stay. And if they don't pay, they go back to jail and accumulate a larger bill. Their life is ruined. Who cares? They shouldn't have been doing whatever they did to get there in the first place.

well to be honest, i'd rather pay the small amount that i am paying now than to pay for the entire sentence of a family member. do you realize how much the costs are to keep someone in prison? you'd go bankrupt long before they even got out of jail. and with nthe idea of garnishing their wages after they get out of jail, that would be contingent on them getting a job, and like i said, most people won't hire convicts. is the government going to have to force companies to give convicts jobs? cuz that's not right either.

and again while i agree in principle that if you're a parent and your kid fucks up it is on you. but there are plenty of occasions where a parent does everything they can to raise their child right and he/she still turns out bad. the parents aren't always at fault in cases like that. and waht happens in the case of a person who has no immediate family? who pays for their jail time? and your idea doesn't even touch on the people who end up in jail for crimes they didn't commit. is it right to not only throw someone who is innocent in jail, but make them pay for their own jail sentence as well?

i really do agree with your idea in theory, it sounds great, but i just see too many holes in it for it to work well.

(just to note, i'm not trying to attack you or say you're wrong about this, just trying to debate the ideas here. so lets not get worked up and upset at each oher like you and i have a tendency to do in topics like this, ok? )

 

[Synful*Luv]

I only get upset in topics i'm passionate about. This one. Meh. It would be nice but it's not going to happen. I don't have an ounce of sympathy for criminals and it's BS that my money has to support their habits of being assholes. I guess just from growing up in the hood around people who commit crimes constantly for no other reason than they feel that they can... it's BS. And the problem is, most people doing something illegal don't care. It just annoys me that criminals can do whatever they want, whenever they want and then those of us struggling to do something the right way not only have a harder life with having to actually work for a living and whatnot, but to add insult to injury... we have to support those who make a complete mockery out of a civilized way of life.

 

[keco52]

Pisses me off sometimes too. I used to volunteer with ppl who received welfare. Some would rather receive under minimum wage doing nothing at all than look for a job.

I don't have a problem at all with ppl using it to get on their feet but to just live like that and not try to make your life better makes me ill. Especially when they keep having kids...and the kids are addicted to drugs and they give the kids right back to the parents :fury: that pisses me off. Then they live in subsidized houses and drive a brand new car :sad: plz get your priorities striaight. Not ALL ppl are like that but the ones that are just ruin it for everyone.