Technology Opinions on this laptops

Casey

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#41
Laptops from (for example) cheap Chinese manufacturers use branded cpus, gpus, sometimes hdds and everything else is of the worst quality possible since they are manufacturing it and they want it to be as cheap as possible. Also audio quality, display quality, build quality, electronics inside and motherboards are not as good and not as reliable.
I'm seriously considering getting that laptop I posted. What do you mean by "everything else". I'm not worried about audio - I use my own professional audio soundcard. This laptop is supposed to have a super hi-res screen with great quality and all the reviews are great (around 30 different reviews on that site). It has a great processor and a ton of RAM.

The manufacturer is a company called Clevo. What should I be looking out for?

As far as I can see it's a great price, a) because it's a lesser known brand and b) because it ships with no OS.
 

Casey

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#42
I read the following review which seems good:

Don't be put off buy the low price, remember it has NO OS. That suited me anywayz because I wanted a Laptop to try out Windows 7 Enterprise Edition which you can download for FREE for a Trial of 3 Months, which is Brillaint, Windows 7 Has every single driver for the Clevo Laptop, even the Webcam and Mic, soundcard, GPU, Drivers etc. even Has an eSata external Port (FAB)



Now this laptop has one of the Fastest Core 2 Duo CPU's on the Market, thats why I bought... Im a long Term Customer of ebuyer and this is another one of their regular Bargains they have from time to time, Even has DVD+R-DL SuperDrive inside. The other thing that attacted me to this laptop was the 800Mhz 4GB Ram, which leaves the machine running very fast.!



Take it from me for eBuyers asking price buy 2 off them because they will not be around long. Clevo are re-known for quality so you will not be disappointed... oh! on the back of my Laptop said made in Sept 2009. and the Bios is upto date, so no need to mess with it.!



Also, it has Wifi and a 6 cell lithium ion battery, but you need to turn the power down in Vista/Windows 7, if you want to conserve battery life. However, I have it turned up to High Performance, and only get 2 hours outta the battery, but on economy settings you could easily get 3.5 hrs from the 6 Cell battery, Fab, cuz most other Laptops at this price would be 3 Cell batteries.



5/5 for Build and Performance

5/5 for looks and nice k/board

again, 5 Stars for Price!



But remember NO OS.= Operating System
 

masta247

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#43
I'm seriously considering getting that laptop I posted. What do you mean by "everything else". I'm not worried about audio - I use my own professional audio soundcard. This laptop is supposed to have a super hi-res screen with great quality and all the reviews are great (around 30 different reviews on that site). It has a great processor and a ton of RAM.

The manufacturer is a company called Clevo. What should I be looking out for?

As far as I can see it's a great price, a) because it's a lesser known brand and b) because it ships with no OS.
Most of all if you can find reviews and they're good then it means that it might be a quite good model. Well, there are less known companies that had to start somehow (one that comes to my mind is Compal).
As far as I see Clevo is a Taiwanese company - I didn't ever hear about them but judging by the internet the build quality is not terrible.
The choice is yours though.
Just bare in mind that specs are not everything and my experiences with no-name brands were: 1.overheating, 2. super-high resolution screen of terrible quality, with terrible viewing angles and colors
3. plastic that is very easy to break.

Once I was to help my mother's friend with her laptop which was a no-name and it just failed to start. After opening the laptop I found out that everything was burned to shit. There was no way to get a replacement either.
I'm not saying that this laptop is bad since I don't know it, it's also not like every no-name will have these defects but there's a higher risk compared to branded laptops that are engineered to be more reliable.
 

Casey

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#44
Yeah, I mean I've been looking at that site for a long time and I trust the reviews on there. I usually find them to be pretty accurate. Also found this on notebookreview.com:

As for owning a Clevo made laptop...YES a big fat YES. However I agree that going to Taiwn to buy one isnt the best way. For whatever reason we sell a fair number of the Clevo made laptops to people in Chine and taiwan. There has to be a reason they buy here even though they are made there.
The two mfg's. We have seen lead the pack in stability are Clevo and Compal. Mfg's that seem to struggle with uniformity and QC are Uniwill and ECS. Mitac, although huge seems to be a hit or miss producer. They can make a great laptop or one that will kill you on the return side of the deal. (Well not you but the brand name selling it)
For that reason, we (M-Tech laptops) have pretty much settled on Clevo and Compal. Too little money made on laptops to risk getting more than a small percentage back in RMA's. Clevo does seem to be the leader in pushing the new feature envelope. Compal does not look so exciting but their long term quality is very good. As a Laptop brand, we love those two manufacturers. Either one you cannot go wrong.
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Apparently Sager, Alienware and some other companies buy Clevo's products and re-brand them as their own. Also Engadget.com regularly reviews Clevo products and always rates them highly, so I don't think I have anything to worry about with this one.
 

Bobby Sands

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#45
I also always build my PCs from the scratch and most parts while seem to be "no-name" are not no-name in reality - they are created by huge companies like Gigabyte, MSI, Chieftec, Tagan, XFX, Galaxy etc. but since most people don't recognize half of them they might look like no-names.
No no-name company produces processors, motherboards, graphic cards etc and actually buying a graphics card off ebay or any other place will get you a better one and more reliable than that in a Dell PC and you can do that for a way lower price.
I never understood people who bought Dell or IBM desktop PCs, not to mention Apple. More expensive, less efficient/reliable and simply silly.

However it's close to impossible to build your own laptop at home or whatever and "third party" parts are not available to buy.
So you can either buy a branded laptop or a no-name one.
Laptops from (for example) cheap Chinese manufacturers use branded cpus, gpus, sometimes hdds and everything else is of the worst quality possible since they are manufacturing it and they want it to be as cheap as possible. Also audio quality, display quality, build quality, electronics inside and motherboards are not as good and not as reliable.
I understand that paying twice as much for a Dell laptop isn't the best thing to do but I'm sure there are laptops in the middle. And personally I think everything from Dell is way overpriced - their quality is barely average.
I have had this dell PC for nearly 8 years now and ive never had any problems with it apart from viruses and stuff. It still runs pretty well. In comparison, i had a Gateway 2000 before it and the hard drive failed after just 4 years.
 

masta247

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#46
I have had this dell PC for nearly 8 years now and ive never had any problems with it apart from viruses and stuff. It still runs pretty well. In comparison, i had a Gateway 2000 before it and the hard drive failed after just 4 years.
Yeah I don't mean that Dell PCs are bad and not reliable - it's just that you can build a better one by yourself. For example I had 3 PCs, each of them was built by me and I also never had a hardware failure.

Yeah, I mean I've been looking at that site for a long time and I trust the reviews on there. I usually find them to be pretty accurate. Also found this on notebookreview.com:
If it gets good reviews then like I said, it might not be bad.
 

Casey

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#47
Cool. Well I'm going to get that laptop then.

I'll put Windows 7 on it (was considering putting 64bit on it to utilize all the RAM but my MIDI keyboard doesn't have 64bit drivers out yet and also some other programs don't run well in 64bit) and let you know how it is.
 

masta247

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#48
the 64 bit Windows 7 doesn't have many problems with 32bit programs since it installs them in its 32 bit program files directory. By now only 1 or 2 32bit programs failed to work for me.

Anyway I'd go for 32bit as it's totally trouble-free and actually it doesn't make much of a difference for a laptop if you don't plan to have more than 4gb of ram any soon.
Plus 32bit Windows 7 will use a bit less resources.
 

Casey

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#50
the 64 bit Windows 7 doesn't have many problems with 32bit programs since it installs them in its 32 bit program files directory. By now only 1 or 2 32bit programs failed to work for me.

Anyway I'd go for 32bit as it's totally trouble-free and actually it doesn't make much of a difference for a laptop if you don't plan to have more than 4gb of ram any soon.
Plus 32bit Windows 7 will use a bit less resources.
Yeah I mean the laptop doesn't have space for additional RAM anyway so I may as well go for the 32bit. Sure it means that I'm sacrificing 500MB of that RAM or so but meh, like I said I'm coming from a 2GB desktop so it's gonna seem better anyway.

Right now the negatives of going 64bit outweigh the positives.

Anyway I'm going to order that laptop in the morning :D I'm excited :)
 

Flipmo

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#51
Alienware have great laptops. Mostly gaming laptops though, which isn't really what you're looking for, but if you really wanted to spoil yourself go for that... (gonna cost you a pretty penny though)
 

Flipmo

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#53
Are only a few models rebranded? The Area N-51 is, and a few others, but I didn't think they all were.

I'll have to look into it.

Not that is matters, Clevo make great machines.
 

Bobby Sands

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#56
no way could i get an Alienware laptop. Way too expensive for me right now.

I wouldnt see the point in buying a gaming laptop like theirs because i wouldnt be playing any games on it. I buy all my games for Xbox 360 now.
 

Casey

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#57
Ah, I dunno about all of them, I just read that a great deal of them were.

I'm excited for my Clevo, it should arrive next week :D

I need to get me a cracked Windows 7 from a torrent, post haste.
 

THEV1LL4N

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#59
im waiting to get my pc upgrades, hopefully my uncle will give me a free legal windows 7 upgrade wile he's at it or at a discoutned price at least.
 

Casey

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#60
Fuck buying an OS. I have a valid license for XP on my PC and I'm still using a cracked version LOL.

Just downloaded a full cracked Windows 7 torrent for when my laptop arrives next week. I'm considering dual booting it with Chrome OS tho, maybe.

Or maybe Ubuntu or some other form of Linux. I've never used Linux before but since Android is based on the Linux kernel I'm interested to check it out.
 

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