Not to beat a Dead horse but.....

#3
you have to admit there are a hella alot of irregularities esp with the pentagon. attach that to the reports of bombs under neath the planes the trade centre (not saying its true but still worth looking at) and countless other things including the bush knew of a planned attack a fucking MONTH BEFORE
 

Jokerman

Well-Known Member
#6
If anyone thinks this is a CNN report saying "No plane hit the Pentagon," then no wonder you're confused about everything.

This is merely a reporter's impressions of the crash site and of only seeing small pieces of the plane. (As opposed to all the other times planes hit the Pentagon and there were big pieces left, right?) It's already been established there were no big pieces left. So what's new here? When a plane hits something at that speed with that amount of fuel, there will be no big pieces left. In fact, if there had been big pieces left, I'd be the first to cry "fake!" So... this is further proof there's no conspiracy. Thanks for the link. :thumb:
 
#7
Morris said:
Really? The fucking trade center coming down and 3000 dying was a weird day?

get over it

100,000+ innocent iraqis have died from your bombs when they had nothing to do with 911, and all there is to show those innocent killed is 1 big fucking mess

that seems just a little more tragic


he said it was strange because what happened that day was very fucking strange

well at least for those who look into the evidence :rolleyes:
 
#8
Jokerman said:
If anyone thinks this is a CNN report saying "No plane hit the Pentagon," then no wonder you're confused about everything.

This is merely a reporter's impressions of the crash site and of only seeing small pieces of the plane. (As opposed to all the other times planes hit the Pentagon and there were big pieces left, right?) It's already been established there were no big pieces left. So what's new here? When a plane hits something at that speed with that amount of fuel, there will be no big pieces left. In fact, if there had been big pieces left, I'd be the first to cry "fake!" So... this is further proof there's no conspiracy. Thanks for the link. :thumb:



This is not about Conspiracy Theories. This is about documenting and analyzing evidence to determine what happened. Yes there is a Conspiracy to hide the truths about September 11th, it is not a theory though. Keep an open mind








Picture 1: The world was shown this destroyed part of the Pentagon


http://www.adelaideinstitute.org/images/photos/Pentagon1.jpg


Picture 2: Immediately after the impact. Where are the remnants of the plane?

http://www.adelaideinstitute.org/images/photos/Pentagon2.jpg



Picture 3: The front of the Pentagon within minutes of the attack.

http://www.adelaideinstitute.org/images/photos/Pentagon3.jpg



The building is still intact and there is no plane debris to be seen.

Half an hour after the attack , around 10.10 hours, the external wall caved in.





Picture 4: Point of impact, enlarged.

http://www.adelaideinstitute.org/images/photos/Pentagon4.jpg


Picture 5: The exit hole

http://www.adelaideinstitute.org/images/photos/Pentagon5.jpg


Picture 6: After removal of debris



http://www.adelaideinstitute.org/images/photos/Pentagon6.jpg



Picture 7: The two arrows, white exit hole, and black impact hole, indicate different

flight paths of object that hit the Pentagon outer ring.


http://www.adelaideinstitute.org/images/photos/Pentagon7.jpg


Picture 8: Flight path of object that penetrated all three building rings, arrow pointing to exit hole.


http://www.adelaideinstitute.org/images/photos/Pentagon8.jpg


Picture 9: The exit hole.



http://www.adelaideinstitute.org/images/photos/Pentagon9.jpg



Picture 10: Another perspective of exit hole, lower right.


http://www.adelaideinstitute.org/images/photos/Pentagon10.jpg
 

Duke

Well-Known Member
Staff member
#9
Planes crashing into solid concrete buildings at high speed tend not to leave a lot of debris behind.

Impact speed and all. Energy convertion. Kinetic energy becomes deformative energy and heat, bla bla bla.

The plane is utterly destroyed
 

Jokerman

Well-Known Member
#13
The plane that hit was only 12 ft, 4 inches in width. That would create a 13 ft cylindrical hole. The hole in the Pentagon is 15-20 feet, according to conspiracy sites. (My God... you're right! It couldn't have been hit by a 757! It must have been hit by a bigger plane, like a 747.)

Given the size of the 757, and the size of the Pentagon, the damaged area fits in pefectly with the dimensions of both the aircraft and the building. The wings simply shredded like a tin can, as would be expected.
 
#15
the planes would have had to fly almost on ground level
This fact has already been established. Flight 11 first circled D.C. as if it couldn't find an original target or missed it, and then honed in on the Pentagon.

The plane actually touched ground before hitting the Pentagon if I remember correctly. Either way it's been established that the plane was flying at nearly ground level when it zeroed in.
 
#17
devils_advok8 said:
I dont know, and frankly, I dont care.Just get over it people.
Easier said than done. 9/11 upheaved and changed the entire geopolitical and not to meantion social consciousness of the international realm.

International politics will never be the same. History was made right before our eyes and because of that, people's perspective on the world was drastically brought to the forefront of their minds.

So to say, "just get over it" is blatantly disrespectful to the many people who's lives were lost in the US as well as those who have been harmed by the subsequent war on terror and war on Iraq.

Such a life changing event is likely to generate interest and speculation as to the cause and "actuality" of the event, which may not coincide with the explanations we have been given. If people want to question Sept 11, I feel they have every right, but if you find the topic boring, there are plenty of other forums to view.
 
#18
Amara said:
Easier said than done. 9/11 upheaved and changed the entire geopolitical and not to meantion social consciousness of the international realm.

International politics will never be the same. History was made right before our eyes and because of that, people's perspective on the world was drastically brought to the forefront of their minds.

So to say, "just get over it" is blatantly disrespectful to the many people who's lives were lost in the US as well as those who have been harmed by the subsequent war on terror and war on Iraq.

Such a life changing event is likely to generate interest and speculation as to the cause and "actuality" of the event, which may not coincide with the explanations we have been given. If people want to question Sept 11, I feel they have every right, but if you find the topic boring, there are plenty of other forums to view.
Not at all, it's just I learned that complaining wont get you nowhere.
Plus, they killed 13 000 people when they first entered Iraq, 9/11 losses quadrapled.we dont go boasting about everytime we get the chance, or which type of aircrafts they used, what speed they were flying, which angle they hit, how many bricks fell, etc.It's old news, there's too much going on in the present that I dont think sticking to what happened 4 years ago would change shit.
 
#19
devils_advok8 said:
Not at all, it's just I learned that complaining wont get you nowhere.
Plus, they killed 13 000 people when they first entered Iraq, 9/11 losses quadrapled.we dont go boasting about everytime we get the chance, or which type of aircrafts they used, what speed they were flying, which angle they hit, how many bricks fell, etc.It's old news, there's too much going on in the present that I dont think sticking to what happened 4 years ago would change shit.
I think the purpose of this thread, however, is to learn the truth about Sept 11 - how can we guage and understand the present without a true appreciation of the past, and indeed, without knowing the truth behind the events which started the chain of war??

And as for the deaths in Iraq, like I said before, it is all related in the sense that Sept 11 led to a more aggressive and militarily determined US.... to understand the present war, you have to understand the past. The justifications for war are weakened (although they always were weak imo) and the subsequent losses become all the more horific if the events that led to policy shift did not occur as we have been told.

Besides, I do not see complaining, I see questioning. Speculation. An attempt to set right what may be misconceived notions of external threats and unnecessary chain of events.
 
#20
BC_BIGBUDZ420 said:
Picture 3: The front of the Pentagon within minutes of the attack.

http://www.adelaideinstitute.org/images/photos/Pentagon3.jpg



The building is still intact and there is no plane debris to be seen.
That right there is the crux of my interests, the reporter said the same thing that the building collapsed a short time after what I will call "Event" happend.

so A huge plane nose dives into the pentagon burts into billions of tiny pieces without causeing initial structure damage?

what a wacko I am to question if a plane hit that building or not. :rolleyes:
 

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