Lebanese Woman talks real shit about Israel!

#21
When Israel did the QanaII Massacre, this idiot was debating me for 2pages then as I was killing his dumb debate, Israel apologizes for the killing and targeting of CIVILIANS
Israel apologizes for civilian deaths frequently. They apologized for the civilian deaths in Beit Hanoun a few weeks ago.

There's a huge difference between apologizing for killing civilians and targeting them. In neither Qana nor Beit Hanoun did Israel intentionally target civilians.
 
#22
Hell even when they say "We're sorry for the unfortunate civilian causalities you some how put a positive spin on it and still find ways (though absurd and with no basis) to show Israel is still right and hasn't made a mistake.
No. I add context to Israel's operations. The people in this forum act as though Israel is mercilessly and needlessly attacking people in places like Beit Hanoun and Qana without mentioning the fact that terrorists are firing Qassams from Beit Hanoun that are killing people in Sderot or firing Katyushas in Qana inbetween civilian dwellings at northern Israel.

In both Beit Hanoun and Qana, terrorists intentionally used civilians as human shields. Then, when Israel retaliates in self defense and kills human shields, everyone in here blames Israel for the deaths and accuses them of targeting civilians. It's an illogical way of thinking.
 
#23
Then, when Israel retaliates in self defense and kills human shields
QanaII was caused from a technical malfunction. Now let's see, they said in the war, that they have the most accurate war machines, spanning from rockets, to tanks, to planes. All of them VERY ACCURATE .. And I would like to quote "Our weapons are extremely accurate and our soldiers are trained on accuracy".

Mhmm... 1600 dead, 100 only HA soldiers... 1500 civilians, yo Morris, that's some accurate shit homie.

I live in Raouche, when Israel bombed the 2 lighthouses right NEXT to my house, what was their excuse? AlManar was using them as broadcast pods? Wow the fuckin lies. One was completely empty and has 2 guards downstairs, and the other one has a broadcasting wire for a french radio station in lebanon.

Owned.Again.
 
#24
Morris said:
No. I add context to Israel's operations. The people in this forum act as though Israel is mercilessly and needlessly attacking people in places like Beit Hanoun and Qana without mentioning the fact that terrorists are firing Qassams from Beit Hanoun that are killing people in Sderot or firing Katyushas in Qana inbetween civilian dwellings at northern Israel.

In both Beit Hanoun and Qana, terrorists intentionally used civilians as human shields. Then, when Israel retaliates in self defense and kills human shields, everyone in here blames Israel for the deaths and accuses them of targeting civilians. It's an illogical way of thinking.
Just because you're told that these "terrorists" were "intentionally" using civilians as human shields does not make that statement accurate. Proof is unbiased, evidence well that's subjective and left to interpretation.

Perhaps you can justify Israel's actions by some twisted version of the Utilitarian theory ... however, I'd like to think their actions were avoidable, foreseen and down right intentional. They wanted to murder civilians , they wanted to cause as much as damage to Lebanon as possible. Targets, areas... not even remotely related to HizbAllah were bombed... From TV stations' equipment (NOT talking about al Manar) to MY internet provider's receiver , to RED CROSS ambulances , to hospitals, to fire brigade stations , to police stations, to Lebanese Army Posts (whom they said are not their enemy) to whatever.

Israel's armed forces were retaliating on innocent people, they knew it, they love it.. and they'd do it again.
 
#25
TV stations' equipment (NOT talking about al Manar) to MY internet provider's receiver , to RED CROSS ambulances , to hospitals, to fire brigade stations , to police stations, to Lebanese Army Posts (whom they said are not their enemy) to whatever.
To milk factories, to chocolate factories, to bridges in Christian areas where not only there's no hezbollah, but not even SHIAAS..so on so on


Morris you're a total moron...and btw fuck kinda name is Morris ? ama call you moe, that shit is disturbing..Hi I'm Morris, I like Israel.

na... Yo am Moe, down to ride for them Zion bitches..
 
#26
Mhmm... 1600 dead, 100 only HA soldiers... 1500 civilians, yo Morris, that's some accurate shit homie.
The Lebanese Higher Relief Council, a Lebanese government agency, counted 1,191 Lebanese deaths in total resulting from the conflict. http://www.lebanonundersiege.gov.lb/english/F/Main/index.asp?

Although Hizbollah has refused to make public the extent of the casualties it has suffered, Lebanese officials estimate that up to 500 fighters have been killed in the past three weeks of hostilities with Israel, and another 1,500 injured.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/08/04/wmid404.xml

Kuwaiti Times article about Hezbollah losing about 700 soldiers: http://www.kuwaittimes.net/navariednews.asp?dismode=article&artid=1677308013

It's likely that a majority of the Lebanese casualties were Hezbollah terrorists.

Only an absolute moron would use Hezbollah's own casualty numbers to tell other people they're owned. From now on you should refrain from embarassing yourself so badly.

Just because you're told that these "terrorists" were "intentionally" using civilians as human shields does not make that statement accurate. Proof is unbiased, evidence well that's subjective and left to interpretation.
I've linked to proof time and time again.

Hezbollah terrorist firing missile from a house: http://youtube.com/watch?v=gyHQFyO_fu4

Hezbollah firing missiles behind a residential building:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=kbMYq8JkSMQ

Hezbollah firing from civilian areas in Qana:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FHpkl9AJYb0

Hezbollah using Christians as human shields and Christian homes as firing bases: http://daniel360.com/archives/194

Hezbollah preventing civilians from leaving and hiding weapons in homes and civilian dwellings: http://dailyscorecard.blogspot.com/2006/07/hezbollah-uses-and-targets-own.html

Is that enough "proof?" Need more?

"Hezbollah came to Ain Ebel to shoot its rockets," said Fayad Hanna Amar, a young Christian man, referring to his village. "They are shooting from between our houses." ... Mr. Amar said Hezbollah fighters in groups of two and three had come into Ain Ebel, less than a mile from Bint Jbail, where most of the fighting has occurred. They were using it as a base to shoot rockets, he said, and the Israelis fired back.

One woman, who would not give her name because she had a government job and feared retribution, said Hezbollah fighters had killed a man who was trying to leave Bint Jbail.

“This is what’s happening, but no one wants to say it” for fear of Hezbollah, she said.]
http://volokh.com/posts/1154237903.shtml

If you guys want to argue that Israel should still show more restraint to avoid civilian casualties, you can make that argument. But pretending Hezbollah and Hamas don't use human shields is blatant ignorance.

They wanted to murder civilians , they wanted to cause as much as damage to Lebanon as possible. Targets, areas... not even remotely related to HizbAllah were bombed...
If Israel wanted to cause as much damage to Lebanon as possible, they could have blown up the entire country from the air without losing a single man. Instead, they used airstrikes on about 10% of Beirut, a bunch of places in South Lebanon and used ground troops to try to clear Hezbollah out of the region south of the Litani River, losing nearly 100 soldiers in the process.
 
#28
StatiC said:
So are these the same israelis who refuse ambulances to attend to dying victims? the same israelis who has forced many women to give birth outside a check point because they would not be allowed to pass to go to a hospital? the same israelis who regularly target ambulances, so much so that ambulance staff are afraid to work?

to further my point, i came across this article today, thought it was relevant to post it in this thread:

Man dies enroute to hospital as Israeli forces will not allow car to pass


(Nablus) Amin Abu Wardeh
Wednesday, 13 December 2006

ImageImageThe family of Ismail Ramadan was preparing for a trip to Mecca next Sunday when they received news that the 48 year old had suffered a heart attack. He was stuck at an Israeli barrier, the army was not allowing the car through. That is recorded as the cause of death.

Eyewitnesses report that the incident occurred about 3:00 pm when Ramadan was being taken to the hospital. However the soldiers would not let them through so he tried to take another route to reach Nablus' Rafidiya Hospital. But progress was slow and medical sources at the hospital reported that Ramadan was dead on arrival, despite efforts to resuscitate him.

Adnan Ramadan told PNN that Israeli forces at the checkpoint saw his cousin in the car and knew his condition, but they refused to allow passage. He continued to explain that they were forced to take dirt roads four times the length and severity, which exacerbated the critical nature of the situation and caused Ismail's death. Adnan also said that Ismail's daughter will now no longer make the ritual pilgrimage to Mecca.

The head of the Tel Village Council, Asteh Omar, said the Israeli forces closed roads that link the city of Nablus to its environs after Israeli soldiers detonated an explosive on Tuesday afternoon. This stranded hundreds of people who were trying to return home after work. He added that most everyone took the bumpy and lengthy side roads that added a great deal of time and stress to the commute.

Citizen Abdul Aziz Al Hind said that many cases of death have been reported at this barrier, with the most cases being those of women on their way to give birth.
 
#29
Citizen Abdul Aziz Al Hind said that many cases of death have been reported at this barrier, with the most cases being those of women on their way to give birth.
There's a reason Israel has to use checkpoints and stop cars, including ambulances, at them:

http://www.standwithus.com/pdfs/flyers/UNAmbulance.pdf

October 31, 2000: Shots were fired at Psagot from inside the Red Crescent building in Ramallah. In another instance, shots were fired at Psagot from a Red Crescent ambulance as it traveled towards Psagot.

New York Times, April 12, 2002: Israeli police found a belt with explosives in a Palestinian ambulance during a check at a roadblock inside the West Bank.

April 25, 2002: Reserve soldiers apprehended a wanted terrorist who was hiding in an ambulance that was stopped during a routine check near Kalkilya.

February 5, 2002. Wafa Idris, the Ramallah woman killed when a bomb she carried into Jerusalem exploded last month, reached the capital by a Red Crescent ambulance.

Associated Press: June 30, 2002. In Ramallah, Israeli troops stopped two Palestinian ambulances and found 27 people packed inside, ten of them suspected of involvement in attacks.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/864029/posts

http://inhonor.net/videos/uped/fl_video.php?f_num=69500 - Terrorists using a UN ambulance to escape.

Maybe if the Palestinians would stop using ambulances, or stop trying to get into Israel to kill Israelis, checkpoints wouldn't be necessary and innocent people with real medical problems wouldn't be delayed.
 

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