Kids and the world today

#1
What are your thoughts on this and the way it is portrayed today?

Also what do you think about how today’s children are being raised?


I think the children of tomorrow are all being brainwashed by the media and glamorisation. To be famous and have lots of money is more important to some than life. Kids today grow up with a ''don’t give a fuck'' attitude this can only make the world worse than it is. Today the media is amplifying wars and natural disasters that have been happening for years. This only makes things worse sure you will know what’s happing in this ''fucked'' up world but that only makes the problems around you seem like nothing. This will then give us that ''don’t give a fuck attitude''.

Society today music in general is making young kids think i want to be a hard head i want to have a gun i want etc. The parents are to blame because they do not even know what there child is up to or listening to. Times have changed from their day when it was cool to be a doctor or a dentist and like to classical music and what not.

I would say more but I await your replies.
 
#2
Most kids grow outta that "I don't give a fuck" phase. I do believe most kids are brainwashed, there's only a small amount of kids in my school who dont smoke, drink, etc. to try to fit in. I being one of them. :cool:
 
#3
KAMIKAZI said:
Most kids grow outta that "I don't give a fuck" phase. I do believe most kids are brainwashed, there's only a small amount of kids in my school who dont smoke, drink, etc. to try to fit in. I being one of them. :cool:
Do you think music i.e hip-hop rap contribute to that. Not all rap and hip-hop do
but in Mr. Shakurs case i think it does.

P.S I just what to state that this is not an attack on 2pac.
 

S O F I

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#4
It's a very commercial and negative society that kids today are growing up in. There are so many outside influences on kids, that parents have a harder-then-ever time to raise their kids properly. But, you know, there's not one thing or one person to blame.
 

Jeremy

Well-Known Member
#5
Like I was saying in the shoutbox you can't escape violence. Kids are watching 18 year olds get blown up in iraq daily. Kids are gonna see the shit regardless.The news is just as violent as movies and music. If these kids are raised right then they will know right from wrong. Parents should be more involved with their kids. Lousy parenting is most of these kids problems. Music or movies cant make you do anything. If they don't have self control then they need to be in jail or a psyhco ward. NOBODY makes you do anything. It's their chose.


If you under stand tupac and his music how could you want to be violent? His music is uplifting to me. It should make them want to get an education and do right. He is rapping about reality and violence is reality. If these kids don't know reality by now then the parents are to blame from sheltering them.
 

Rukas

Capo Dei Capi
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#6
At the end of the day I think its the parents fault.

Like we were talking about the shootings in the shoutbox, at the end of the day the parents are responsible.

Its easy to blame the media, but I think its a scape goat. I saw some fucked up movies as a kid, and have been listening to "gangsta rap" since I was 6 or 7, I never got the urge to kill anyone. Ok, well I did, but no more than anyone else ;) My point is the media didnt influence me anymore than my mothers upbringing did.
 

Amara

New Member
#7
We've had similar topics and what stands out to me is that it always seems, regardless of the actual time period, that children are growing up increasingly being placed worse environments all the time. This decade it is rap music, war and natural disasters. Go back a couple decades and it was rock music, war and natural disasters... it's almost a predictable cycle. It seems as if it is being amplified by the media, but we really dont know if life is any more complicated or gloomy for youth than it has been at any other time... it's just different and I think there is enough good to balance out messages for most kids so that they are able to move in positive directions.
 
#8
Amara said:
We've had similar topics and what stands out to me is that it always seems, regardless of the actual time period, that children are growing up increasingly being placed worse environments all the time. This decade it is rap music, war and natural disasters. Go back a couple decades and it was rock music, war and natural disasters... it's almost a predictable cycle. It seems as if it is being amplified by the media, but we really dont know if life is any more complicated or gloomy for youth than it has been at any other time... it's just different and I think there is enough good to balance out messages for most kids so that they are able to move in positive directions.
Exactly :thumb:
 

S O F I

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#9
I think that negative influences are increasing as the years go on. Although it's the parents' responsability to raise their kids properly, you can't deny the negative outside influences. They're strong and kids are vulnerable. But, when parents censor the negative influences, we often knock them for it. Parenting is definetely not easy.
 

S O F I

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#10
Rukas said:
Its easy to blame the media, but I think its a scape goat. I saw some fucked up movies as a kid, and have been listening to "gangsta rap" since I was 6 or 7, I never got the urge to kill anyone. Ok, well I did, but no more than anyone else ;) My point is the media didnt influence me anymore than my mothers upbringing did.
Well, do you completely credit your mother's upbringing, in your ability to listen to gangsta rap as a young child and such, and still come out a civilized invididual? I believe that some kids are born with the ability to figure out some things and how to behave by themselves, up to a certain point. Although my parents are wonderful, I struggle to recall any events from my childhood where my parents really tried to raise me properly with values and morals. I just got a lot of "This and that is wrong, you can't do this, you'll get punished for doing this." But, they stopped doing all that as I started going through puberty and just kind of let me figure out how I want to live. That is one of the reason why I never really rebelled against my parents nor had extensive fights.

I do agree that the media is a scapegoat, though.
 
#11
Chosen_man said:
I think the children of tomorrow are all being brainwashed by the media and glamorisation. To be famous and have lots of money is more important to some than life.
Celebrity isn't a modern invention. Marilyn Monroe and Evlis Presley are quintessential celebrities. Growing up to be famous is the dream of almost every young child growing up. You see rock stars or athletes or actors on TV and you want to be them, because they get so much praise and acclaim.

Kids today grow up with a ''don’t give a fuck'' attitude this can only make the world worse than it is.
Teenage rebellion is also nothing new.

Today the media is amplifying wars and natural disasters that have been happening for years. This only makes things worse sure you will know what’s happing in this ''fucked'' up world but that only makes the problems around you seem like nothing. This will then give us that ''don’t give a fuck attitude''.
The problems around you ARE nothing compared to Wars and Natural Disasters. What do you think the news should be populated with, the everyday problems teenagers go through? NEWS FLASH: Corey just split up with his girlfriend, there will be a minute's silence.

Or maybe the news should only cover the nice stories, like cats being rescued from trees. Wouldn't want our kids being exposed to what happens in the real world.

Society today music in general is making young kids think i want to be a hard head i want to have a gun i want etc. The parents are to blame because they do not even know what there child is up to or listening to.
Music doesn't make people do anything. Music is always blamed because its and easy target. Kids listen to a lot of music, kids go out and do drugs/get into fights/get pregnant...must be the music. Popular music has always been blamed for society's problems, be it Elvis Presley, Bob Dylan, Olivia Newton John, AC/DC, NWA, Marilyn Manson or Britney Spears. It's the job of parents to teach their children morals and values so that they don't rely on Ice Cube to teach them right from wrong.

Times have changed from their day when it was cool to...[listen] to classical music and what not.
When was that, the 18th Century?
 

The.Menace

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#12
I think the children of tomorrow are all being brainwashed by the media and glamorisation
First of all, I don't think it happens tomorrow but today. Second, I don't think the children are the real core of the problem. What children, and I talk about the small ones, see on TV and are brainwasted with are things like I want this toy or that toy or later on this make up or that Jean or this PCGame. It might not be right but it's something that actually you can control, something that parents could control. The real problem, talkin about brainwashing, is what THEY do to us, to the grown men and women, to the parents actually. The propaganda we fall for makes us start wars - makes us look down on other people cause of their race or disrespect poor people instate of helpin them because "it's not my fault that they were born over there".....stuff like that. The real dangerous brainwashing already is here, but it's not in a childrens brain, it's in the parents brain from which it might get injected into the youth....
Actually my hope is that kids don't listen to their parents but change the world and how it works, but I know that won't happen. We just went too far already.

It seems as if it is being amplified by the media, but we really dont know if life is any more complicated or gloomy for youth than it has been at any other time... it's just different and I think there is enough good to balance out messages for most kids so that they are able to move in positive directions.
I dunno, how can you move in a positive direction in this world? I don't feel like the world is good and all we have to do is to protect the youth from movin in the wrong direction. I think we should start to turn this mess into a good world so we can offer hope to the youth - plus I think if we'd all change this world to a better one, we wouldn't have to worry about our children. I think we have to worry here not because the youth is bad, but cause of the world that we made and make everyday is bad. But protectin the youth will just help in short term, we should start to change everything, from the bottom up - then we might have a chance cause right now I don't feel like we really have one neigther we, as human race, deserve one.

peace
 
#13
I believe that it is about 98% the parents fault. I swear to god I wanna kills kids these days. I was visiting a lady, around 50 or 60yrs old, that used to be close to my mom. Well, where we lived it was nice at the time we met this lady. There was almost no problems at all. Cops rarely made a visit. Well when i visited this lady, there were 5 cops and 8 ambulances that came in during a 2 hr time period. She was telling me that the kids were VERY bad around there and I was thinking surely not that bad. Then these 2 kids walked up to her porch and said "Can I have a glass of water please?" and I was like "see, their decent Carla" (the ladies name). Well she gave me a look and looked at the kids and VERY POLITELY said "Can you wait just a second dear, I have company." Well then the smart ass kid said "Well fuck you then you old bitch". I just about busted that kid in the fucking head.
I hate gawd damn kids these days. I seriously hate the parents for letting the kids live this way. I plan to beat the living fuck out of my kid if he speaks to an adult that way. I will literally take his ass to that persons house and beat their ass infront of that person. My child WILL understand respect. Some parents don't want to take the time to teach and now I see what that creates. So I will be taking the time to teach my child right from wrong. He WILL be limited on what he listens to until he/she's at least 13 yrs old. At 13 I will lift my censor a little and let them see more reality as it won't be long before they're out of my house lol.

I wrote too much. Yeah, it's mostly the parents fault that these kids are so bad these days. As my teacher always told me "Your a reflection of your parents."
 
#14
Jocka said:
So I will be taking the time to teach my child right from wrong. He WILL be limited on what he listens to until he/she's at least 13 yrs old. At 13 I will lift my censor a little and let them see more reality as it won't be long before they're out of my house lol.
So you'll be smoking weed with your kids at 13, but you'll won't let them listen to music you don't approve of (which, by that time, will probably be everything)?
 
#15
no i don't smoke. where'd that come from? lol. I think i posted once that if my child wanted to smoke weed then I'd have to be there yes. But after 13 with that as well. And it's limited and to never be INSIDE the house.
 
#16
Jocka said:
no i don't smoke. where'd that come from? lol. I think i posted once that if my child wanted to smoke weed then I'd have to be there yes. But after 13 with that as well. And it's limited and to never be INSIDE the house.
So you'll be out in the alley watching your son light up a joint, making sure nobody drives past playing their "devil music" too loud?
 

_carmi

me, myself & us
#17
its not totally the parents fault. media is everywhere and its worse then before, Tv, Internet, News, Ads, its everywhere. parents cant force their kids to dont do this, dont do that, dont take this, dont drink that, etc. at some point the kid if he doesnt do it in front of his parents, he'll do in his parents' back. at some point, yeah the parents should be blamed and try to get their kid to have a good attitude ands to make a difference between right and wrong things, but even then, at some point kids jsut dont give a fuck about what their parents tell them. also the fack that kids these are so god damn spoiled its not even funny. parents give them everything they want, now wonder why kids have so bad attitudes. we live in such a materialistic world that its really scary. u wanna make ur kid happy, u buy them what they want so they shut up. thats what parents do or at least thats how i see my cousins act with their kids. the kid become the parent and the parent the kid and thats ridiculous.
 

Sebastian

Well-Known Member
#18
Illuminattile said:
Teenage rebellion is also nothing new.
Illuminattile said:
It's the job of parents to teach their children morals and values so that they don't rely on Ice Cube to teach them right from wrong.
true

Rukas said:
At the end of the day I think its the parents fault.
yes, its up to the parents to teach them there are always two sides of a story. if they do it the right way, i cant see how any media can brainwash your kid. at least the danger is minimal.

the thing is, its like a vicious circle. there are parents who cant raise their kids properly, and so they kids wont be able to do it either.
 

Flipmo

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#19
Honestly, when I see 12 year olds getting high and seeing them act like hard asses (which seems to be alot more than before). The first thing I tell myself is: Wow, kids are fucking stupid nowadays.

Parents are to be blamed though. When you see a mother/father that lets her 10 year old dress in short skirts, tall leather boots and lets her wear makeup.. you ask yourself why these mofos decided to have kids to start with.
 

_carmi

me, myself & us
#20
FlipMo said:
Parents are to be blamed though. When you see a mother/father that lets her 10 year old dress in short skirts, tall leather boots and lets her wear makeup.. you ask yourself why these mofos decided to have kids to start with.
yeah parents are too be blamed thats for sure. its not normal a 10 years old kid that looks like a slut. i see a lot of girls around 9-10 years old proud to put their g-strings so u can see it. 9-10 years old, its like cmon where are the parents? wtf are they doing?
 

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