Technology iPhone 4

Pittsey

Knock, Knock...
Staff member
#21
There's no widgets for iOS even when you jailbreak. The ONLY reason is to get free apps? LOL. That's complete garbage and you know it. People jailbreak to get apps that have been rejected or crippled by Apple for no apparent reason, to add functionality that should have been there for a start.... the iPhone 3G was capable of running a camcorder app with no problem, but Apple wanted people to upgrade, so 3G people were forced to jailbreak to get a camcorder on there. People jailbreak to tether, to theme their device, to be able to use SSH to get into the file system tree, to make some apps that Apple have insisted only be used on Wifi be able to be used on 3G, and to make it easier to access certain settings, things like sbsettings. One of the most useful reasons I found with my cousins iPad was that I was able to add multitasking via Backgrounder once it was jailbroken....funnily enough, a MUCH BETTER method of multitasking than the garbage way they implemented with iOS 4.

The fact is that the ONLY innovative stuff on iOS is coming from the jailbreaker community, and NOT apple.


That is 100% correct. And why I jailbroke my iphone. It is also why I am an android convert. Because all the functionality is available straight out the box. It would take a push from apple to get me back. And I was a huge fan of the iphone.

The problem with iphone fans is that they don't even know what other devices can do. They don't let their minds accept the fact that there can be something else that does everything that the Iphone does and that this thing can do it even better. Plus does a lot of other stuff.
And is cooler to use.

About a month or so ago I was on a trip to a very small town with some friends of mine and a bunch of their friends. That group included a few "cool kids" with Iphones. One of them had his Iphone jailbroken and was all about "oooh look at what my phone can do" launching stupid ass apps like a machine gun sound or lord vader voice all the time.
There was exactly 1 wifi station nearby and none of these Iphones could pick a signal because they thought it's too far. So that guy with his jailbroken Iphone thought that he'll do the coolest thing ever and share his 2g connection over a wifi tethering app that he illegally downloaded (because Apple bans these apps from the market). While they were struggling with that I thought "oh what the hell, I'll help them out".
Needless to say my phone could easily pick the signal from that wifi hotspot and I was able to use my wifi tethering to share the net with them because Android is cool like that.
I was like "Bazinga!" and they were like "Zomg wtf pro hax!". They were playing with my phone and couldn't believee that they could buy 4 of them for the price of their average Iphone here.
This also applies to most other things Iphone can't do and Android can.

Again. You have summed me up. I had an iphone and wasn't aware of what android could do. I thought my jailbroken iphone was the shit. It did everything I wanted. I jailbroke it. So it was customisable, it had shortcuts to everything by certain button presses. I used different SMS apps.... I had wifi only apps running on 3g... etc. But I had never experience android so presumed it was inferior. I didn't even know people who ran android phones. I was only ever subjected to the iphone. A friend of mine had a HTC, and to be honest, I thought the interface looked shit, so I never delved deaper. When you guys (Casey especially) showed me the Samsung Galaxy S, I liked it. Mainly because the interface was similar to the iphone... lol. And the design. Which Apple do well.

But after playing with android and giving it a chance, I have really noticed how good it is. Not to mention my contract is 50% cheaper. I don't miss a thing from my iphone, android has it all.

The only downside... is my iphone got more attention from the ladies... ;)

But... The iphone is so common now, I doubt it has the wow factor it used to anyway. They try to make it exclusive... It can't be discounted by retailers. But in reality. It's just a phone.
 

THEV1LL4N

Well-Known Member
#22
Answers to 3en's Questions:


What if i need a phone that syncs and backs up with itunes?

the only reason you feel you need iTunes it's because its mandatory for you.

What if i need a phone thats easy to use?

How difficult do you think other phones are to use?

What if I need better battery life?

Heard of optimisation?

What if I need the biggest selection of best written Apps with the best experience?

Fair enough you have the biggest selection, but android is catching up, fast.

What if I need a music player thats not useless?

Useless meaning not usable at all or does not function. which players do you have in mind? because ive not ehard of any issues with android's default player. if that is the case, then it is possible to download a third party media player.

What if I want to buy music directly on my phone from itunes?

There are always alternative options, not a sole way of doing things. With Android you can buy it from Amazon MP3, or the web, or simply stream it for free; maybe even get an app that downloads mp3s.

What if i want the best gaming phone?

With or without flash? I think you'll find Android has many decent titles and they are much improved compared to a year ago.

What if I want the most accurate multi touch screen?

See Galaxy S.

What if I want to be sure I will get the next firmware update instead of having to replace my phone to get software features every 6 months?

When does Apple give their consumers the next iOS update? when the new phone is out and the formerly flagship phone which becomes the predecessor does not run the new OS as smoothly, since the device is not optimised for the newer version of iOS, similar to how the 3GS runs iOS4, not smooth at all as ive been told. Okay, due to the wide range of android phones on the market, there will be a difference in the updates provided to those handsets. Features can still be added in the form of apps, even better (as a bonus for thsoe who know how to) are rooted devices and those running custom ROMs.

If people want a customizable experience with porn and emulators and widgets, then they are able to jailbreak their device. The only reason people I know jailbreak their iphone or iPod touch is to download free Apps.

Android Market has a wider range of free apps than the App market (in % ratio). Also, it is possible to get paid apps for free using simple commands.

iPhone is better for developers if your intent is to develop commercial (i.e. you get paid) software. Android is a scary place because of all the hardware variation (increases testing load, reduces reliable common spec) and the OS variation. Not only that but piracy is a huge issue for Android and is a less attractive option for developers.

The android market is still controlled you know, contrary to what you hear about it being an open marketplace. its just that they dont restrict their store like the app store. feedback is given to developers and they usually fix known bugs vrey quickly indeed. so thats not a major issue. android market becoming more popular, one can presume that it is becoming even better for commercial purposes.

See you see it as "Closed" I see it as Safe. I like that there is someone (Apple) that reviews Apps and makes sure the App actually does what it says and performs 100% and is free from virus's and malware. Its quality control, something Android does not have.

I believe there was a malicious app in the market which has been removed by google and they also have the ability to remotely remove apps from devices for security reasons. afterall, it is all based on the consumers judgement as is the case when they judge whether paying £7.99 for a full app without ads is a safer bet than getting the free version with ads and slightly less functionality - i.e. based on ratings and consumer feedback, users can judge for themselves whether the app is safe or not. upon downloading it tells you what the app has access to..

Android is for tinkerers, nerdy PC type of people eg Masta. :amuse:

Subjectivity at its best; Humour at its worst. Hats off to Masta, this guy knows what he talks about, and so his views are more credible when needing an opinion on a product. Its good to know some people take more than one view into account (let's refer back to people who dont, did you imply that other mobile media players are useless and iTunes is flawless?)

Android is a lot more commercial now than it was 2 years ago. You say it is for nerdy people because those who know what they are doing can bring about more functionality with their device. But it is becoming a whole lot more popular amongst everyday people and more fashionable with the range of colours, form factors (i.e. x10, x10 mini, x10 mini pro) etc.

iPhone 4 is almost as "Magical" as my iPad.

Did Steve tell you that?
 

THEV1LL4N

Well-Known Member
#23
LOL. Sure, iOS is the best gaming phone. RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT. That would explain why the Galaxy S GPU can push more triangles per second than a PS2 or PSP? You are aware that Sony are bringing out an Android gaming device to be the next PSP, with full Playstation branding? Clock is ticking......
Too right, this is gonna be sick! And im expecting the graphics to be upscaled

Let's compare:

I got my G1 in November 2008, it ran Android 1.1 at the time. Android 1.5 (Cupcake) came out the following April. Android 1.6 (Donut) followed in September. Android 2.1 (Eclair) the following January. Android 2.2 (FroYo) was announced last May and released in July. Guess what? I'm running FroYo, and not a cut-down version, the full OS with all the new features. That's 21 months and counting.

What iPhone was out in 2008? Oh yeah - the iPhone 3G. Can the iPhone 3G run a full version of iOS 4? Well? What's that? *crickets chirp*........ *tumbleweed rolls past*...........No, it can't.
Damn, you just pulled the trigger!!
 

Casey

Well-Known Member
Staff member
#24
To add another point to the bullshit "Android is for nerds, tinkerers", or whatever garbage...... an uncle of mine is quite possibly the least tech-savvy person I know.

He'll literally call me up to help him out with the most minor of issues on his laptop.

He has brand loyalty to Sony, for whatever reason. Only buys Sony BRAVIA TV's, etc. All his previous phones have been non-smartphone Sony Ericsson devices.

So, his contract was up for renewal a few months back and he asked me for my advice, as most people I know do. Then he told me that no matter what advice I gave him, he was insistent on having a a Sony Ericsson phone. So, I showed him the Xperia X10 online and he got one the next day. After showing him how to set it up, and importing his contacts to his Google account from Outlook on his laptop - he's been loving it, and has had absolutely no difficulty with it whatsoever.

This guy is the polar opposite of a "nerd" or "tinkerer". Just goes to show that that point is completely invalid.

The tech community are always the first adopters of innovative products, but that's obvious. Shit, I remember first using Twitter back in 2007, just a couple months after it launched. The vast majority of people on there at the time were programmers, web designers, and IT people. The media explosion didn't happen till early 2009....and now look at it.... close to 200 million users.

Google's latest figures are 200,000 Android activations every day. Do the math. 6 million devices a month. 72 million a year. It's outselling your precious iPhone. That doesn't happen if the device "is for nerds and tinkerers".
 

_carmi

me, myself & us
#25
@Carmi - there's actually a huge Android thread out there lol. I seriously suggest you check out Android. It's the better system.
And yes, antenna problems are confirmed to be real deal. There's a free case program going on but I've heard that even holding your phone in a case results in a signal loss. It doesn't drop as many calls while in a case though:
German Stiftung Warentest: iPhone 4 is the real signal loser - GSMArena.com news
i just wanted to hear what people said and thought. i still have my iphone 3g and it was a gift. i wanted to get the htc hero initially but it was discontinued. i can do calls, send texts and play games. oh and play music. which is all i really need it for. my contract still has 2 yrs and 1/2 so i'm not getting a new phone anytime soon lol.
 
#29
yea i was going to do this so i called AT&T and they said they sell the micro card for 25 bucks. i asked what if i got the iPhone on ebay? can i buy a card from you? they said yes...

the phone is just the shell and the card is the service...switching cards wont matter,as long as there both microcards its fine if not then just call AT&T and buy one from them then do the switch
 

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