Indonesia wants US troops out by March

#21
groobz said:
lOur government is so stupid in helping this country, why do we give them money and aid and help? when they are ungreatfull.
You give the money,aid and help to the people of Indonesia. They are very grateful, its the government who wants you to leave, so don't doubt the gratefulness of the Indonesian people. Also im sure the gorvernment appreciates the help. They probably want to restore normality to their country, how long shud the foreign governments stay in their country. I mean, they have to leave someday, so why have hatred towards Indonesia.
 
#22
Jokerman said:
tupacmansion, It’s not what I think we should do. It was a parody of what the Indonesians must be thinking the US wants to do if they don’t set a deadline for us. That was so obviously wrong that everyone in here would be attacking me if they thought I meant it.

Now attack groobz, he means it.
Orite thnx for clearin that up, I thought u were jus bein an idiot but I was wrong. :thumb:
 

The.Menace

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#23
groobz said:
lol @ indonesia. they wern't saying this when our soldiers were over there helping them reconstruct all the damage. Maybe Indonesia wants to go slaughter more east timorians again. Our government is so stupid in helping this country, why do we give them money and aid and help? when they are ungreatfull.
Why do we give them money and aid? Cause we help the people. Maybe the government doesn't want the help, but maybe it jsut represents a small part of the people?
 
#24
Mate, "the people" just voted an ex army general that was responsible for the deaths of thousands of christians in east timor as their leader.
 

The.Menace

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#25
Yeah. And the people did vote for GW as well. You can do so much with propaganda lol. Anyway. I don't know if these elections in indonesia were correct. I mean, if this man is that bad, can we trust in this elections? Whatever. All I wanted to say is that jsut because the government refuses the help, it doesn't mean that the people do. I don't know how the situation in Indonesia is right now, if the people dont want our help neigther, then I agree, we should give all this to other countries.
 
#26
groobz said:
Mate, "the people" just voted an ex army general that was responsible for the deaths of thousands of christians in east timor as their leader.
You do know that America gave indonesia military assistance in the invasion. But that unimportant. Also who voted for this person, was the election even real or are you jus ASSUMING that it was a real democratic election. Also are you saying that these people deserve to die b'coz of their leader. Even if that leader was voted democratically, not everyone voted for him, or do you only help those who did'nt vote for him. Going by your judgement, everyone in Iraq would of deserved to die while Saddam Hussein was in power.
 

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#27
Jokerman said:
tupacmansion, It’s not what I think we should do. It was a parody of what the Indonesians must be thinking the US wants to do if they don’t set a deadline for us. That was so obviously wrong that everyone in here would be attacking me if they thought I meant it.

Now attack groobz, he means it.
do you blame them for thinkin that? the u.s has about a thousand freakin military bases in about 130 countries for fuck sakes, them fuckers would jump at any chance to build one in any country, in this case the worlds largest islamic nation, hmmm now why would they do such a thing?
 
#28
tupacmansion said:
You do know that America gave indonesia military assistance in the invasion. But that unimportant. Also who voted for this person, was the election even real or are you jus ASSUMING that it was a real democratic election. Also are you saying that these people deserve to die b'coz of their leader. Even if that leader was voted democratically, not everyone voted for him, or do you only help those who did'nt vote for him. Going by your judgement, everyone in Iraq would of deserved to die while Saddam Hussein was in power.
Yes the election was held there were two canditates. One being an ex general that was responsible for slaughtering christians in east timor. The majority of people voted him as the leader. I'm not saying they deserve to die because of their leader,, i'm saying why vote for a maniac in the first place? what is it with muslim countries and war?
 

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#29
i'm saying why vote for a maniac in the first place? what is it with muslim countries and war?
hey buddy we view your leaders such as howard, bush and blair as maniacs and war criminals, all elected and re-elected murderers by people like you, what is it with you white people and wars? get your fucking troops of iraqi soil and than speak about wars ....... mmk thnx?
 
#30
are you upset at white people techy?
you say get our troops off iraqi soil - well, don't let dictatorships arise in your countries and we won't have to go in there and fix your problems.
 

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#31
groobz said:
are you upset at white people techy?
are you upset at muslim people grooby?.... why do i feel like im playing a game of hungry hungry hippo with an 8 year old everytime you and i argue?
 

The.Menace

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#32
groobz said:
The majority of people voted him as the leader. I'm not saying they deserve to die because of their leader,, i'm saying why vote for a maniac in the first place? what is it with muslim countries and war?
funny, just replace "muslim countries" with USA.....

don't let dictatorships arise in your countries and we won't have to go in there and fix your problems.
wow, terrible - what's next? Don't let the muslim believe arise in you country and we don't have to go there? Don't let people say something negativ about us and we don't have to go there? Don't let people disagree with us and we don't have to go there?
 
#33
nope, if your country has dictators which suppress the people then we will help.

America asked the world about the war in iraq, and had an overwhelming response with 42 countries in total supporting the war. Bush was recently re-elected for another term in office, he had more votes than any other president in history, and won by a larger majority than last time,, same with howard in australia. Such great support for such great leaders. Bring freedom and peace to the world, say no to WMD's! and no too terroists! alls we ask for is a little oil in return, not a big price for your liberties.
 
#34
groobz said:
nope, if your country has dictators which suppress the people then we will help.

America asked the world about the war in iraq, and had an overwhelming response with 42 countries in total supporting the war. Bush was recently re-elected for another term in office, he had more votes than any other president in history, and won by a larger majority than last time,, same with howard in australia. Such great support for such great leaders.
Alot of the countries who supported you were thirld world countries who were forced into that support. If they didn't support then America would have stopped giving aid to them countries. Other countries would have prolly been called terrorist supporters and bombed if the didn't agree with the US. America took advantage of the weak countries. Remember the phrase "You are either with us or against us". George W indirectly threatened countries into supporting him. You know perfectly well he did Grobz.

groobz said:
Bring freedom and peace to the world, say no to WMD's! and no too terroists! alls we ask for is a little oil in return, not a big price for your liberties.
Iraq was proven not to have WMDs and had no terrorists so that was a stupid thing to say. All that leaves is America getting free oil.
 

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