I guess Peyton Manning is a fraud

#21
Harry_potter said:
Such as John Elway when he lead his Team to the Super Bowl 3 Times in the late 80's to crushing defeats, to later redeam himself by winning back to back Super Bowls with help of strong suporting cast.

Look What Manning is working with, He has Marvin, Stokely and that other guy, a Blue Chip HB in James, The Number one and two sack leaders on defense.

as for Marino, he had some great talent and one of the top 5 Coach's of all time.
obviously you don follow much..

marino had avg wide recievers for the majority of his career, excluding a few years, overall nothing to write home about

he NEVER had a great running back, as a matter of fact he never had an avg running back, football more than any other sport is a team game and marino simply never had teh supporting cast to help him out

mannings defense stinks, they coudlnt get the pats off the field, they were avg at best all year, just because u got the sack leader doesnt mean u got a great defense, they have a shitty secondary and are porous against the run..

peyton manning did not by any means play poorly, he wasnt on the field that much because his defense could not get the pats off the field

learn to watch the game before some of you make these remarks..

peyton is young and has a long way to go, john elway didnt win the super bowl until he got a great defense and a great running game

once manning gets a solid defense look out
 
#22
HitEmUpOutDaParK said:
Manning's team is LOADED. Forget about the offense, Dwight Freeney on D?? Plenty of other respectable guys. Coaching needs to be changed.

dwight freeny is the only one worth anything on that shit ass defense..

manning has a long career left, dont write him off
 
#23
HitEmUpOutDaParK said:
Manning's team is LOADED. Forget about the offense, Dwight Freeney on D?? Plenty of other respectable guys. Coaching needs to be changed.

what the hell. How is it coaching?

There offense is great, but look at the last like 5 years, defensive teams have always won the superbowl. THEIR DEFENSE SUCKS! You can't win big relying on offense, that's been proven in the league. Having Dwight Freeney doesn't mean the other 10 defensive players are as good as he is.
 
#24
Story said:
obviously you don follow much..

marino had avg wide recievers for the majority of his career, excluding a few years, overall nothing to write home about

he NEVER had a great running back, as a matter of fact he never had an avg running back, football more than any other sport is a team game and marino simply never had teh supporting cast to help him out


learn to watch the game before some of you make these remarks..

peyton is young and has a long way to go, john elway didnt win the super bowl until he got a great defense and a great running game

exactly.
 
#25
Story said:
obviously you don follow much..

marino had avg wide recievers for the majority of his career, excluding a few years, overall nothing to write home about

he NEVER had a great running back, as a matter of fact he never had an avg running back, football more than any other sport is a team game and marino simply never had teh supporting cast to help him out

mannings defense stinks, they coudlnt get the pats off the field, they were avg at best all year, just because u got the sack leader doesnt mean u got a great defense, they have a shitty secondary and are porous against the run..

peyton manning did not by any means play poorly, he wasnt on the field that much because his defense could not get the pats off the field

learn to watch the game before some of you make these remarks..

peyton is young and has a long way to go, john elway didnt win the super bowl until he got a great defense and a great running game

once manning gets a solid defense look out
Nigga you are not Mel Kipper,

I never said Marino had a great RB or even Great Recivers, but he had the "The Mark's brothers" for a few seasons and never did much with it. I honestly did not get to Watch Marinos Dolphins play to much so don't recall how there defense was. Marino is the Karl Malone on Football.

As for Elway not winning it untill he got a Strong D and suport from TD and others. that is True however he went 3 times with Teams that where no better then what Marino ever had and nothing close to what Payton has.

Payton is young and he could "pull an Elway" but I honestly don't see it. I think this season will fuck with him for some time to come. he should have refused to play for the Colts and Demanded a Trade to the Broncos ;)
 
#26
TcThaDon said:
your a nerd..your patriots are gay..and so are you

Steelers will kick your ass again..tom brady can go back 2 suckin some bill belichick dick.."oh bill im like a 6th round pick from michigan play me"

"suck my dick and you can be great" -Bill Beliichick-
er...easy killa. Actions speak louder than words, and I think anyone will agree the Pats had the best game this week while the Steelers struggled with a write off team. But then again, Pitt beat NE when they were missin Corey. We'll see how it plays out Sunday.
 
#27
Harry_potter said:
Nigga you are not Mel Kipper,

I never said Marino had a great RB or even Great Recivers, but he had the "The Mark's brothers" for a few seasons and never did much with it. I honestly did not get to Watch Marinos Dolphins play to much so don't recall how there defense was. Marino is the Karl Malone on Football.

As for Elway not winning it untill he got a Strong D and suport from TD and others. that is True however he went 3 times with Teams that where no better then what Marino ever had and nothing close to what Payton has.

Payton is young and he could "pull an Elway" but I honestly don't see it. I think this season will fuck with him for some time to come. he should have refused to play for the Colts and Demanded a Trade to the Broncos ;)

marino never did nething with the mark brothers?
his stats say otherwise

but if he is puttin up 30 pts a game and his defense cant stop a fucking thing, how is that his fault? marinos teams were no good and he got one of them to a superbowl as a second year player but unfortunatly ran into joe montana and the 49ers machine..

some of elways teams were good, but dont forget about the teams and the way the leauge was at the time, this is probably hands down the strongest class in the afc in a long time, when elway was taking his broncos to the superbow (the first 3 times) there werent a lot of power teams in the afc, the big teams, pittsburgh, cleveland (back in the 80s), houston, were all in sort of transition phases...

you said mannings teams were loaded and marino was on talented teams with a great coach..

their teams are not loaded, and marinos were not loaded.

pz
 
#29
and look at it like this...Manning threw an INT that didnt' mean anything. Last play of the game.

The Patriots scored two touchdowns.

The Colts had two fumbles.

If you can blame Peyton Manning for Dominic Rhodes and Reggie Wayne not being able to hold on to the ball then that's you. But he did nothing in the game to lose it for them. He played well enough to win, his players did not.
 
#30
You people that hate on the Patriots is becausing they're winning. But I bet cha if your team won just like the Pats you wouldn't be saying shit. So stop hating just cause you dont get your way.
 

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