how much protein??

[ItsmeyaC]

do ya think i should be having a day?, 6.0 ft 182 pounds, dont harldy move unless im walking to the car, due to coming out of work(no i dint have an accident i got in lazy mode after i fucked my job off) i wanna get rid of my gut, dont get me wrong i aint no fat bastard, but i got a gut and i want rid, plus i wanna get bigger, not massive, but a noticable difference, i know what exercises to do but i wanna loose the gut but get bigger like in arms shoulders chest legs, back basically everything except my stomach which i want to flatten out, so i was wondering how much protein i should have, plus all the meals i have are microwave meals mostly, which are high in protein like lasagne bout 30g, and was thinking is it best to boil em or to microwave em, plus i got tins of tuna, bout 24grams a tin, i just wanna know how much i should be consuming, and when to consume (after workout before, during)i dont want to get the protein shakes i just wanna do it natural, and i started to drink more water, bout a galon throughout day, and i hear to get bigger you gotta lift heavy, but whats the difference in lifting heavier and doing more reps if u havnt got heavier weights?, cuz am training at home.

 

[radkin]

The one gram per pound rule is the easiest and most commonly used method of calculating your daily protein requirement, but their are times when you need to change that amount eg. When you are trying to gain muscular body weight, and when you are using a low carbohydrate diet for fat loss. Then I'd say up it to about 1.4 gram per pound of bodyweight.

On the subject of the microwave meals, they're trash mate, high in salt & sugar, buy chicken breasts pastas etc, you can make some really quick meals from these or even make them up and store them in the freezer so time is really no exscuse. Oh and you say that lasagne contains about 30g of protein, thats close but try to aim for about 34g per meal.

So your gonna train at home, that's fine but imo it's much better to join a gym and get a training partner, there's too many distractions at home and it's all to easy to slack off, especially as you need to keep your sessions intense if you have fat to burn.

As for your training add two sessions of 20 minute interval training to begin with to fire up that fat burning furnace in your body. and as regard to higher rep training the general rule is to stay between 8-12 reps for maximull muscle growth, but lately there has been some research that show even higher reps still builds good amounts of muscle so dont worry too much just make sure you train hard.

Your pre-workout meal should be consumed about 1 and half hours before you train containing at least 30 grams of protein and at least 70g of slow digesting carbs. Now immediatly after training you need fast digesting carbs to replace lost muscle glycogen and prevent muscle atrophy, and again protein, this is where shakes really hold their own, oh and by the way using a protein shake isn't un natural, supplements really are a big help.

 

[ItsmeyaC]

thanks for the advice, i hear some people make their own protein shake, might try and make one, what would i need in there

 

[bigmack]

plus all the meals i have are microwave meals mostly, which are high in protein like lasagne bout 30g, and was thinking is it best to boil em or to microwave em,

if you're serious about this,toss that microwaveable crap out. get some lean meats and real foods.

i dont want to get the protein shakes i just wanna do it natural

what? whey/casein/soy/etc. protein is not natural?

and i started to drink more water, bout a galon throughout day, and i hear to get bigger you gotta lift heavy, but whats the difference in lifting heavier and doing more reps if u havnt got heavier weights?, cuz am training at home.

dude,i wouldnt advise lifting weights at home if you don't have the proper or enough equipment.

 

[ItsmeyaC]

i meant natural as in eating food with all the stuff i need in them, not buy some shake what has been made, but id make my own protein shake if i knew what to put in it, what it is i got one of them total trainer 2500 where ya can do all ya exercises to work the muscle groups, lifting my own body weight, i got it on the highest level at minute, and u can add weights to it, so ill be using this, i just wanted advice on what to eat and when, i dont want to get massive i just wanna be bigger than average, and need steps in the right direction but ima follow radkins advice, see how that works out, so do you agree with him and/or have you got something to add to help me

 

[bigmack]

i meant natural as in eating food with all the stuff i need in them, not buy some shake what has been made, but id make my own protein shake if i knew what to put in it,

protein from foods has poor bioavailability.that's why shakes are important.Plus protein shakes are all natural.It's just PURE protein extracted from milk or whatever.Nothing is "made" or "fake".

 

[ItsmeyaC]

thanks for insight, guess ill be buyin some of those then

 

[The.Menace]

First off all you should start 2 learn about weightliftin in general and get yourself a good routine.... there is no point in talkin about protein if you haven't taken the very first step yet and judgin from your question you haven't yet.

 

[Get In The Van I Have Candy]

Originally Posted by ItsmeyaC
and i started to drink more water, bout a galon throughout day, and i hear to get bigger you gotta lift heavy, but whats the difference in lifting heavier and doing more reps if u havnt got heavier weights?, cuz am training at home

Well then I suggest to get more weights. If you do the same stuff day in and day out with the same weight and repitition your muscles will get used to it and therefore you wont gain any muscles. The key here is to tear your muscles so you can grow muscles. Thats why you need to add more weight to your bench, barebell, ect. Usually I do with the increments of 5 a week or two. It depends how I feel.

 

[S O F I]

Fuck workin out at home. Go to the gym.

 

[ItsmeyaC]

Well then I suggest to get more weights. If you do the same stuff day in and day out with the same weight and repitition your muscles will get used to it and therefore you wont gain any muscles. The key here is to tear your muscles so you can grow muscles. Thats why you need to add more weight to your bench, barebell, ect. Usually I do with the increments of 5 a week or two. It depends how I feel.

doesnt doing more reps do the same thing, i know lifting heavier would lead to less reps and less time/energy in a way, because its heavier, but one would think that increasing the reps would also tear the muscle, doesnt it tear the muscle just the same when u give that extra push, because i do the exercise til i feel the burn then push like an extra few or something, basically til its too hard, isnt doing this working the same

 

[bigmack]

doesnt doing more reps do the same thing, i know lifting heavier would lead to less reps and less time/energy in a way, because its heavier, but one would think that increasing the reps would also tear the muscle, doesnt it tear the muscle just the same when u give that extra push, because i do the exercise til i feel the burn then push like an extra few or something, basically til its too hard, isnt doing this working the same

theres a big difference.doing many reps is an aerobic exercise while lifting heavy and doing less reps is an anaerobic exercise.what determins either is your heart rate.

aerobic exercises use glucose for energy.after the first 10-15 minutes of your workout,all your stored glucose becomes depleted/empty.So what happens is,your body breaks down other muscle tissues and converts them to glucose so you can have enough energy to workout.even though its tearing the muscles,it's breaking down and using the muscle for energy.you're really not doing anything to gain mass,although on the plus side, you would be improving your cadivascular system.

anaerobic excercises on the other hand use pure fat for energy.although fat is not that efficient of an energy source,it's enough since you're not doing many reps.the body is so smart.if you want strength and size,lift heavy.

 

[ItsmeyaC]

thanks for the breakdown, so lets say i started lifting heavier then i got used to weight, but kept using the same weight, i would lose muscle

 

[S O F I]

theres a big difference.doing many reps is an aerobic exercise while lifting heavy and doing less reps is an anaerobic exercise.what determins either is your heart rate.

aerobic exercises use glucose for energy.after the first 10-15 minutes of your workout,all your stored glucose becomes depleted/empty.So what happens is,your body breaks down other muscle tissues and converts them to glucose so you can have enough energy to workout.even though its tearing the muscles,it's breaking down and using the muscle for energy.you're really not doing anything to gain mass,although on the plus side, you would be improving your cadivascular system.

anaerobic excercises on the other hand use pure fat for energy.although fat is not that efficient of an energy source,it's enough since you're not doing many reps.the body is so smart.if you want strength and size,lift heavy.

But, isn't it that less weight and more reps gives you definition and like the cut look, while more weight and less reps gives you strength?

 

[bigmack]

But, isn't it that less weight and more reps gives you definition and like the cut look, while more weight and less reps gives you strength?

Yes.

But,definition or the cut look does not mean you gained muscle.You get the cut look by losing fat that's covering the muscle and that's just what happens when you do high reps low weight.Doing high reps low weight will bring your heart rate up to a point where it's considered cardio.Now,after you're done the workout,your glucose stores are empty,so your body will use fat the rest of the day to maintain itself and for any other activities.fat loss = the cut look

Even though lifting heavy and lower reps will be using fat directly for energy,it won't really use that much since your heart rate is still low.Also,your glucose stores are still untouched and full for use throughout the rest of the day.No fat loss going on here so no cut look

thanks for the breakdown, so lets say i started lifting heavier then i got used to weight, but kept using the same weight, i would lose muscle

only if you increase your reps

 

[The.Menace]

thanks for the breakdown, so lets say i started lifting heavier then i got used to weight, but kept using the same weight, i would lose muscle

Simple - ask yourself what you goal is. If you want to be bigger and stronger you're workin out to use more weight. You might increase the reps over the weeks but after all THAT's just a methode to be able 2 use heavier weights later on.

 

[ItsmeyaC]

so what if you wanna get bigger but be cut at the same time, can you mix it up to get the results ?

 

[The.Menace]

No that is not possible - but maybe you are a skinny dude, if so, then every lb muscle you put on will be sharp already. If you're body fat is up you might try to get rid of it with a lil runnin.

 

[ItsmeyaC]

so whats the best way youd say for me to get bigger all round but flatten my stomach out, dont get me wrong its not homer simpson style, but its a noticable podge at the bottom, e.g.

wanna get rid of the podge, but get bigger every where else, well some places are big enough :horny:

 

[The.Menace]

Start liftin weights 3 times a week and run one time a week - you can train more often though if u want to. Try to lift as heavy possible, keep the reps low between 6 and 12.