Same could be said for Hamas, Islamic Jihad an yadda yadda their fighting a war too, against a ruthless enemy who doesnt give a rats ass about who it kills in its raids just as long as its an arab, now same could be said about Hamas, like i said im not sticking up for these groups Morris, but damn what means does palestine have to defend themselves? Homemade rockets? Suicide bombers? an what does Israel have? Tanks, m16's, Helicopters, F-16's an 2000 pound bombs which rarely seem to hit their target, yet always kill dozens of innocents, an you wonder why these groups hate Israel? Cause no matter what Israel does the typical Zionist or American who believes every word from CNN an Fox news, somehow says their justified. Fuckers could set off a nuke an wipe palestine off the map, an the west nor any of the Israeli dick riders would say a word. Gimme a break, Israel is killing ants with sledge hammers and its sickening that they arent being condemed right along with the militant groups who do the suicide bombings, Israel kills a dozen arab palestinians, not too much is said, but let 5 Israelies die in a bombing an there will be hell to pay, shits sick either way an people need to stop looking the other way an ignoring the shit thats going on. Peace
Hamas threatens anti-Israeli attacks after seaside raid
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Same could be said for Hamas, Islamic Jihad an yadda yadda their fighting a war too, against a ruthless enemy who doesnt give a rats ass about who it kills in its raids just as long as its an arab, now same could be said about Hamas, like i said im not sticking up for these groups Morris, but damn what means does palestine have to defend themselves? Homemade rockets? Suicide bombers? an what does Israel have? Tanks, m16's, Helicopters, F-16's an 2000 pound bombs which rarely seem to hit their target, yet always kill dozens of innocents, an you wonder why these groups hate Israel? Cause no matter what Israel does the typical Zionist or American who believes every word from CNN an Fox news, somehow says their justified. Fuckers could set off a nuke an wipe palestine off the map, an the west nor any of the Israeli dick riders would say a word. Gimme a break, Israel is killing ants with sledge hammers and its sickening that they arent being condemed right along with the militant groups who do the suicide bombings, Israel kills a dozen arab palestinians, not too much is said, but let 5 Israelies die in a bombing an there will be hell to pay, shits sick either way an people need to stop looking the other way an ignoring the shit thats going on. Peace
The same cannot be said because the Palestinians are the ones waging the war. Israel is defending itself. Besides, the suggestion that Israeli forces kill indiscriminately is an unjust stereotype that's not supported by the fact that the % of Palestinian civilians killed by Israel during this intifada is about 35% of the entire Palestinian death toll.
The Palestinians aren't defending themselves with home made rockets or suicide bombers. They are attacking Israeli civilians and territory. There's a reason unarmed civilians account for about 75% of Israel's casualties during the last 5 years.
The Palestinians aren't defending themselves with home made rockets or suicide bombers. They are attacking Israeli civilians and territory. There's a reason unarmed civilians account for about 75% of Israel's casualties during the last 5 years.
Do you honestly believe this statement? It's ludicrous at best. Palestinians waging war against Israel with their top notch military personal and equipment. Yeah, that sounds plausible.
Second point you've made is simply untrue. You're ability to muniplate the reader by choosing percentage over actual numbers is weird for some reason. Numbers until 2005 since the intifada show that almost 3179 Palestinians have been killed of which 1099 were non-combatant compared to the 764 Israeli noncombatant.
Using percentage can change the image dramatically. For one, the Israeli death toll is not as high as the Palestinian. Thus, choosing percentage over actual numbers is misleading which I bet my life on is your very goal of doing. You might have succeeded with the few people that have read ur response.
*shakes head with disappointment*
Second point you've made is simply untrue. You're ability to muniplate the reader by choosing percentage over actual numbers is weird for some reason. Numbers until 2005 since the intifada show that almost 3179 Palestinians have been killed of which 1099 were non-combatant compared to the 764 Israeli noncombatant.
Using percentage can change the image dramatically. For one, the Israeli death toll is not as high as the Palestinian. Thus, choosing percentage over actual numbers is misleading which I bet my life on is your very goal of doing. You might have succeeded with the few people that have read ur response.
*shakes head with disappointment*
Hamas would rather bankrupt the Palestinian society and have civil war than recognize the state of Israel. Then there's that part in their charter about murdering every Jew in the Middle East. But yeah, other than that, the suggestion that the Palestinians are waging war on Israel is ludicrous 
All you did was confirm my %s. The point I made was that Israel doesn't kill Palestinians indiscriminately, or the noncombatant death toll would be a much higher %.
As for using the death toll itself, it proves nothing. The Nazis suffered more casualties in WWII than the British. Does that mean the British were the aggressors?
What a rebuttal. In your next post, maybe you can explain how randomly firing dozens of rockets into Israel per day is self defense. Then you can explain how suicide bombing a bus or restaurant is self defense too.
All you did was confirm my %s. The point I made was that Israel doesn't kill Palestinians indiscriminately, or the noncombatant death toll would be a much higher %.
As for using the death toll itself, it proves nothing. The Nazis suffered more casualties in WWII than the British. Does that mean the British were the aggressors?
What a rebuttal. In your next post, maybe you can explain how randomly firing dozens of rockets into Israel per day is self defense. Then you can explain how suicide bombing a bus or restaurant is self defense too.
Morris said:
Hamas would rather bankrupt the Palestinian society and have civil war than recognize the state of Israel. Then there's that part in their charter about murdering every Jew in the Middle East. But yeah, other than that, the suggestion that the Palestinians are waging war on Israel is ludicrous
How did I confirm your %s? You chose percentage because it misleads the reader to think that more Israeli non-combatant were killed than there were Palestinians which is flawed. As a matter of a fact, Palestinians suffered a higher percentage of deaths than Israelis did.
Very simple, just like how bulldozing innocent people houses is self defense the same goes for that.
:woah: :angry: 
:horny:When I say that 35% of the Palestinian death toll is noncombatants and 75% of the Israeli death toll is noncombatants, it says absolutely nothing about which side has had more deaths. Anyone who interpreted it that way cannot read.
What the %s do prove is exactly what I originally stated: that the Israelis do not indiscriminately target Palestinian civilians. The IDF is almost universally regarded as the most efficient urban fighting force in the world precisely because of %s like that.
Israel bulldozes the houses of suicide bombers and houses along smuggling routes and tunnels.
As for your alluding to the Protocols, that pretty much destroyed any credibility you were attempting to build.
What the %s do prove is exactly what I originally stated: that the Israelis do not indiscriminately target Palestinian civilians. The IDF is almost universally regarded as the most efficient urban fighting force in the world precisely because of %s like that.
Israel bulldozes the houses of suicide bombers and houses along smuggling routes and tunnels.
As for your alluding to the Protocols, that pretty much destroyed any credibility you were attempting to build.
This move created a lot of controversy...
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3264964,00.html
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1150355521445&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull
http://www.powerlineblog.com/
http://www.judeoscope.ca/breve.php3?id_breve=1785
http://israelmatzav.blogspot.com/2006/06/egypt-ghanian-soccer-player-mossad.html
http://motnews.blogspot.com/2006/06/love-and-hate-from-ghana.html
http://finefellows.blogspot.com/2006/06/ghanan-chad-johnson-forced-to.html
http://eye-on-the-world.blogspot.com/2006/06/football-association-of-ghana-caves-in.html
So they only bulldoze suicide bombers houses ey? Thats interesting Morris, tell the thousands of displaced palestinians who were neither smugglers nor suicide bombers that. Let me ask you somthing seriously, have you even been to that region? Or do you just take what the u.s. government an media an Isreali media say as gospel truth? I used to believe the same shit, just like your preaching, till i went over there, its awhole different aspect, awhole different story. Your very knowlegeable cat Morris but alot of what you spew sounds like straight propaganda. In your posts Israel is never wrong, they never kill innocents an they are just so wonderful. Both sides do their dirt and Israel is far from innocent.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1150355528023&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull
"On Monday, the Human Rights Watch, while sticking to its demand for the establishment of an independent inquiry into a blast on a Gaza beach 10 days ago that killed seven Palestinian civilians, conceded for the first time since the incident that it could not contradict the IDF's exonerating findings.
Lucy Mair - head of the HRW's Jerusalem office - said Klifi's team had conducted a thorough and professional investigation of the incident and made "a good assessment" when ruling out the possibility that an errant IDF shell had killed the seven Palestinians on the Gaza beach."
They now believe that it was unexploded ordnance, but aren't sure whether that ordnance was from Hamas or previously Israeli. Of course, I haven't seen any of this in any major outlet, all of which were quick to say Israel fired on beachgoers.
"On Monday, the Human Rights Watch, while sticking to its demand for the establishment of an independent inquiry into a blast on a Gaza beach 10 days ago that killed seven Palestinian civilians, conceded for the first time since the incident that it could not contradict the IDF's exonerating findings.
Lucy Mair - head of the HRW's Jerusalem office - said Klifi's team had conducted a thorough and professional investigation of the incident and made "a good assessment" when ruling out the possibility that an errant IDF shell had killed the seven Palestinians on the Gaza beach."
They now believe that it was unexploded ordnance, but aren't sure whether that ordnance was from Hamas or previously Israeli. Of course, I haven't seen any of this in any major outlet, all of which were quick to say Israel fired on beachgoers.
My ass they only bulldoze over terrorist homes and smugglers' homes. You must know this to be bullshit with the wide range of knowledge you have. But I will be sure to let my Grandma know that I have figured out why her home was gone when she returned from Lebanon after the war. Thanks for the info you piece of shit.
Lol you're fucked in the head. Youre blinded by all this bullshit that its just funny that people are still replying to you. Yes, im sure Israel is doing everything correctly and has absolutely no agenda. How could we possibly think that your beloved Jewish brethren had fucked up just a tinsy winsy bit? Oh no, woe is me, that cant be true!! palestine is evil!! look @ what they do! yes 1000s of homes have been destroyed under the guise of "terrorism". what a surprise
sorry morris but youre a complete joke. youre digging too hard trying to find the remotest thing that would side with your completely biased view. stop trying so hard. what a loser
happy posting
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