Greatest persuasive writer/speaker of all time?
- Thread starter H.E. Pennypacker
- Start date
He didn't need to persuade the Germans in certain ways i.e. mobilising the economy, ending unemployment etc. However the full-fledged programs against the Jews, the adoptation of "totale krieg", his manipulation of the German psyche for his own ends etc. did take persuasion and, in this, Hitler was almost unparalled in History. He is the supreme demagogue of the last 200 years.
Well even so his speeches alone had the power to influence even the sternest of audiences. For example in January 1932 Hitler went to Dusseldorf to address a group of German industrialists. Mostly opposed to his policies, by the end of the address he had won almost all them over and garnered many millions in donations for his upcoming election fund. In addition he now had many new powerful supporters. That, in my view, is the mark of a great persuasive speaker.
I'm not denying he had persuasive power to boot, I'm just saying, let's weed out the irrelevancy & look at what he actually did. Anti-semitism & nationalism was always there, he just build on it.
And as for what you mentioned, yeah, that's a good achievement. Then again, MLK changed views some people had held for a lifetime.
But I don't really want to argue about it because I see them as equally valid choices, just wanted to point out certain weak pillars for those who chose Hitler.
And as for what you mentioned, yeah, that's a good achievement. Then again, MLK changed views some people had held for a lifetime.
But I don't really want to argue about it because I see them as equally valid choices, just wanted to point out certain weak pillars for those who chose Hitler.
Persuasive writer is probably Frantz Fanon imo, this guy was a genius, if you ever read Wretched of the Earth, Black Skin White Mask you would understand what I'm talking about. Another take would be Edward Said (R.I.P.), the way he wrote was just thought provoking, try to get your hands on Orientalism and you'll see for yourself.
As for speaker there is Malcolm X, Nelson Mandela or Gandhi. I never saw in my whole life somebody make 800+ million people move their minds by an intelligible speaker as Gandhi. We do also have to note that Mandela is a great and a courageous person who fought for what he believed and is blindly praised in the whole world up to this day.
Peace
As for speaker there is Malcolm X, Nelson Mandela or Gandhi. I never saw in my whole life somebody make 800+ million people move their minds by an intelligible speaker as Gandhi. We do also have to note that Mandela is a great and a courageous person who fought for what he believed and is blindly praised in the whole world up to this day.
Peace
How bout the fact hat he turned thousands upon thousands of people started believing in him and following him. He was such a "threat" that the Roman Empire crucified him.
Not to mention all the people after him that followed his teachings and became Christian. The Catholic Church (the original Christian religion, stemming directly from his teachings) was the most powerful force in the world for the longest time.
Not to mention all the people after him that followed his teachings and became Christian. The Catholic Church (the original Christian religion, stemming directly from his teachings) was the most powerful force in the world for the longest time.
Where is the evidence that he verbally converted thousands?
Where is the evidence that he was crucified?
The followers of his 'teachings' were converted by written word - the Bible - & other followers - ie. not his voice.
Again, the Catholic Church gained power by converting people itself & through the employment of deceitful tactics.
Where is the evidence that he was crucified?
The followers of his 'teachings' were converted by written word - the Bible - & other followers - ie. not his voice.
Again, the Catholic Church gained power by converting people itself & through the employment of deceitful tactics.
Donate
Any donations will be used to help pay for the site costs, and anything donated above will be donated to C-Dub's son on behalf of this community.
Members online
No members online now.