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Due to the nature of a capitalist economy and the never ending aim of gaining more and more profit...the chances of reaching full employment in any Western Economy is slim, inflation would shoot up which would in turn would cause the economy to collapse and everyone would be unemployed again.
Capitalism cannot provide what you are asking for, and quite apart from the economic immpossibility of full employment, capitalism does need a reserve army of labour for all sorts of things (least of all when a show of workers power is demonstrated), so full employment is hardly something capitalists want. By the way, you believe the government is to blame, i am a socialist and thus believe the government to only be a tool of the ruling class, those who own the means of production (god i love these corny Marxist terms).
And by the way, i live in Wales - i pay exactly the same taxes!
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MX!
And by the way, i live in Wales - i pay exactly the same taxes!
Who said anything about taxes? No disrespect, unless u live here, u dont know a thing i talked about. You live in Wales not Amerikkka, big big difference. Topic is about the system of control blind to the human eye, not taxes. There is a reason I blurted everythin out at once without explanation. This countrys laws & system of rules is like a massive blueprint on how to run a prison of 200 somethin million.
Who said anything about taxes? No disrespect, unless u live here, u dont know a thing i talked about. You live in Wales not Amerikkka, big big difference. Topic is about the system of control blind to the human eye, not taxes. There is a reason I blurted everythin out at once without explanation. This countrys laws & system of rules is like a massive blueprint on how to run a prison of 200 somethin million.
What the fuck are u talking about^^^
I answered her question not yours, and with all due respect if u knew i thing about what your talking about you would know that the economy and economic oppression is the way they keep even your fantasy alive.
The point is what your saying isnt structured at all, your picking up all the awful things in society and blaming them all on the same source...the government...explain to me what your government does to oppress you that my government doesnt do to oppress me. By your 'Amerikkka' comment i take it you think the lines are split down racial lines, but everything u claim happen to blacks happen to poor white americans as well (except the racial abuse), the oppression is the same.
The blueprint you talk of isnt some a plan created by a few devious people at the top...do u know anything of history? It is the result of thousands of years of society eveolving. It would be a good idea for you to pick up the communist manifesto and read it - and understand it. Each epoc of human history has been the history of one class overthrowing the other, in the Fudal times it was the surfs overthrowing the land owners - in effect becoming the same class - the owners of the means of production. Which then lead to capitalism in its current form, which leaves two main classes - Through historical materialism it can then be seen that the working class will now overthrow the ruling class thus leaving only one class - hence communism.
What your suggesting is that this social proccess never happened - thus totaly ignoring history....No one on this planet acts in a historical vacumm, including the government - they have changed dramatically, in relation to the blueprint you talk of and the ways in which laws represent moral value. The American government didnt apper out of thin air, but according to your analysis they did!
peace
MX!
I answered her question not yours, and with all due respect if u knew i thing about what your talking about you would know that the economy and economic oppression is the way they keep even your fantasy alive.
The point is what your saying isnt structured at all, your picking up all the awful things in society and blaming them all on the same source...the government...explain to me what your government does to oppress you that my government doesnt do to oppress me. By your 'Amerikkka' comment i take it you think the lines are split down racial lines, but everything u claim happen to blacks happen to poor white americans as well (except the racial abuse), the oppression is the same.
The blueprint you talk of isnt some a plan created by a few devious people at the top...do u know anything of history? It is the result of thousands of years of society eveolving. It would be a good idea for you to pick up the communist manifesto and read it - and understand it. Each epoc of human history has been the history of one class overthrowing the other, in the Fudal times it was the surfs overthrowing the land owners - in effect becoming the same class - the owners of the means of production. Which then lead to capitalism in its current form, which leaves two main classes - Through historical materialism it can then be seen that the working class will now overthrow the ruling class thus leaving only one class - hence communism.
What your suggesting is that this social proccess never happened - thus totaly ignoring history....No one on this planet acts in a historical vacumm, including the government - they have changed dramatically, in relation to the blueprint you talk of and the ways in which laws represent moral value. The American government didnt apper out of thin air, but according to your analysis they did!
peace
MX!
Yes we are slaves. We are slaves to our bodily needs before we are slaves to the 'system', for I read somewhere that every man is a slave to his stomach. Everyone is subject to hunger, pain, comfort, lonliness, desire..etc. I wouldn't say that Sex was the #1 need, for we all need: Food, Water, Shelter, Sleep & Sex (in no particular order) in moderation.
To say that we are all slaves is correct in one way or another but that is not all we are. 'We are all born into a prison that we cannot smell or taste or touch, a prison for our mind' - and no matter what we do we aren't going to change that. On the other hand the 'system' that is seen as enslaving us has no effect on us, (other than what we let it have), for it cannot hinder our growth or take away our human rights. We are all in the same boat at the end of the day.
Prophet G, Your view sounds a little pessimistic if I may say, and would be the view of someone in a mental prison.
To say that we are all slaves is correct in one way or another but that is not all we are. 'We are all born into a prison that we cannot smell or taste or touch, a prison for our mind' - and no matter what we do we aren't going to change that. On the other hand the 'system' that is seen as enslaving us has no effect on us, (other than what we let it have), for it cannot hinder our growth or take away our human rights. We are all in the same boat at the end of the day.
Prophet G, Your view sounds a little pessimistic if I may say, and would be the view of someone in a mental prison.
And what u said wasn't off the chart? You sound like some philosopher who retired early cuz crack cocaine got him talkn about weird shit like what u jus said.. we are slaves of our stomach..
On the other hand the 'system' that is seen as enslaving us has no effect on us, (other than what we let it have), for it cannot hinder our growth or take away our human rights
Has no effect on us? LOL dame u live on Earth or u on that strong shit. It cannot hinder our growth or take away our rights? Damn man either u blind or u been living with a blindfold on. Wtf u talkn about, the system doesnt effect us, of course it does. EVerythin they do, say, make.. effects us. If Bush makes a law takin away ur freedom but assuring more security.. it dont effect u? More taxes, dont effect u? U must live in the jungle.
On the other hand the 'system' that is seen as enslaving us has no effect on us, (other than what we let it have), for it cannot hinder our growth or take away our human rights
Has no effect on us? LOL dame u live on Earth or u on that strong shit. It cannot hinder our growth or take away our rights? Damn man either u blind or u been living with a blindfold on. Wtf u talkn about, the system doesnt effect us, of course it does. EVerythin they do, say, make.. effects us. If Bush makes a law takin away ur freedom but assuring more security.. it dont effect u? More taxes, dont effect u? U must live in the jungle.
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