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I just bought a G2. Imported from the US.
Can't wait for this bad boy to arrive. With some new kernels, they've overclocked this thing to 1.9GhZ already which is insanity. However I'll likely run it around 1.3GhZ so it doesn't explode lol. That seems like a safe middle ground. I'm spending Xmas at my folks place, so I'll spend that time rooting, SIM-unlocking and overclocking this beast.
Had my G1 since Dec '08... it's had a good innings and still runs surprisingly well even on Froyo and could probably even run Gingerbread without too many problems. But with all the major changes scheduled for Honeycomb, I doubt it will run that OS too well..... But still, in my G1's lifetime, it's seen Android 1.0, Android 1.1 (when I first booted up the phone, within minutes there was a system update to 1.1), Android 1.5, Android 1.6, Android 2.1 and Android 2.2.
I don't know when ARon got his G1 but I think I could be the only person here who's been rocking Android since 1.0...... I know Sandeep didn't get his G1 until after Cupcake 1.5 had hit. Shit, I remember being a mod on AndroidCommunity forum back in 2008 and everyone speculating when and what would be included in Cupcake.... prior to Cupcake we didn't even have video recording functionality lol! And now most new high end devices can record in HD.... we've come a long way.
Can't wait for this bad boy to arrive. With some new kernels, they've overclocked this thing to 1.9GhZ already which is insanity. However I'll likely run it around 1.3GhZ so it doesn't explode lol. That seems like a safe middle ground. I'm spending Xmas at my folks place, so I'll spend that time rooting, SIM-unlocking and overclocking this beast.
Had my G1 since Dec '08... it's had a good innings and still runs surprisingly well even on Froyo and could probably even run Gingerbread without too many problems. But with all the major changes scheduled for Honeycomb, I doubt it will run that OS too well..... But still, in my G1's lifetime, it's seen Android 1.0, Android 1.1 (when I first booted up the phone, within minutes there was a system update to 1.1), Android 1.5, Android 1.6, Android 2.1 and Android 2.2.
I don't know when ARon got his G1 but I think I could be the only person here who's been rocking Android since 1.0...... I know Sandeep didn't get his G1 until after Cupcake 1.5 had hit. Shit, I remember being a mod on AndroidCommunity forum back in 2008 and everyone speculating when and what would be included in Cupcake.... prior to Cupcake we didn't even have video recording functionality lol! And now most new high end devices can record in HD.... we've come a long way.
ahhh i hate that guys non-verbal cues. Gadget show is a really good show - good reviews.
I had used Android 1.0 (very briefly) before i had the cupcake update. Also, if you remember I had those really serious FC issues after flashing a CM ROM (4.2.17 or whatever it was) which didn't allow my to use my phone very much... i had to revert everything straight to the beginning and re-do everything in order as if i had gotten OTAs all over again, except it was all manual. I was using Android 1.0 for like a week and i felt so underprivileged after having all the latest stuff implemented. It was at that time i came to the realisation how far android had come, solely on the G1 - and now we are like 10 months down the line compared to that distant memory.
I had to reflash, cupcake, crc1, donut, root, then eclair. now im on froyo.
I had used Android 1.0 (very briefly) before i had the cupcake update. Also, if you remember I had those really serious FC issues after flashing a CM ROM (4.2.17 or whatever it was) which didn't allow my to use my phone very much... i had to revert everything straight to the beginning and re-do everything in order as if i had gotten OTAs all over again, except it was all manual. I was using Android 1.0 for like a week and i felt so underprivileged after having all the latest stuff implemented. It was at that time i came to the realisation how far android had come, solely on the G1 - and now we are like 10 months down the line compared to that distant memory.
I had to reflash, cupcake, crc1, donut, root, then eclair. now im on froyo.
Do you remember the Instant Messenger app that originally shipped with the G1? It had Gtalk, AIM, MSN and YIM all within the same app, except only Gtalk was through data and all the others used SMS gateways. I don't know what happened to that app, but somewhere along the line it just disappeared, lol.
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I think you have me beat with the G1 but not by much. I'm pretty sure I got it a week or two into '09 with Christmas money. The G1 is the best phone I've ever owned, or seen for that matter. Nothing has or will have the longevity of this thing. I can go on with the superlatives but to make it easier me talking about this phone is like Jeremy Clarkson talking about a car he likes.
Good choice with the G2. I think it's the best thing out right now, better than the Nexus S as well. I'm still just barely holding out til early next year to see what comes out, I hope it's worth it
Good choice with the G2. I think it's the best thing out right now, better than the Nexus S as well. I'm still just barely holding out til early next year to see what comes out, I hope it's worth it
The nexus is just an updated galaxy s as we all know. the two phones have the same speeds, gpu's are similar, many people argue that the one in the g2 is better but whatever. I wish the nexus s had an sd slot. it doesn't matter how much internal memory you have, it's always nice to have the sd card option. I still prefer a phone with a keyboard. Nexus S does have the better screen though. Probably looks better too but the G2 isn't all plastic like the Nexus s. One big glaring problem is the lack of hspa+ on the nexus s, wtf is that. But really the truth is there really isn't a good argument for either phone, it's just your preference. One thing I know for sure is the Nexus S just pisses me off. This is supposed to be the flagship Android device and they half ass it, its annoying.
Engadget just did a preview of the LG Star, which is using a tegra2, it's stupid fast. CES 2011 is like a week into january, we're gonna see all kinds of new devices being shown. I'm waiting for those, even though I probably won't be able to buy them right away, I have patience though. I'm not going to buy a tech that is at the end of its life cycle, buying the nexus s or even the g2 is doing that
Engadget just did a preview of the LG Star, which is using a tegra2, it's stupid fast. CES 2011 is like a week into january, we're gonna see all kinds of new devices being shown. I'm waiting for those, even though I probably won't be able to buy them right away, I have patience though. I'm not going to buy a tech that is at the end of its life cycle, buying the nexus s or even the g2 is doing that
yeah everyone has different needs. If speed is what you're after then basically Galaxy S = Nexus S = ~G2.
I absolutely don't need more than what my phone offers which is previous gen 800mhz Samsung processor. Performance-wise it's somewhere in between the 600mhz version of "snapdragon" and a Hummingbird.
It makes me wonder what people need more speed for. My phone does everything at max speed I need it to do and if anything lags it's because of poorly written software.
So yeah, I'm one of these people who think that Desire Z was a step back from the original desire because of inferior display and bigger size. The new Sense UI is the most appealing thing to me, which the G2 doesn't have.
Also, I think that the keyboard mechanism on Desire Z is terrible and really I'm not alone in this.
If it comes to the Nexus S and Galaxy S the Super Amoled screen is a killer feature that pwns anything else as far as my needs are concerned. It could have a 500mhz processor and I would still buy it if I wanted to replace my phone. I just really dislike TouchWiz and I'm not interested to pay that much for a phone in the first place so go figure :|
I absolutely don't need more than what my phone offers which is previous gen 800mhz Samsung processor. Performance-wise it's somewhere in between the 600mhz version of "snapdragon" and a Hummingbird.
It makes me wonder what people need more speed for. My phone does everything at max speed I need it to do and if anything lags it's because of poorly written software.
So yeah, I'm one of these people who think that Desire Z was a step back from the original desire because of inferior display and bigger size. The new Sense UI is the most appealing thing to me, which the G2 doesn't have.
Also, I think that the keyboard mechanism on Desire Z is terrible and really I'm not alone in this.
If it comes to the Nexus S and Galaxy S the Super Amoled screen is a killer feature that pwns anything else as far as my needs are concerned. It could have a 500mhz processor and I would still buy it if I wanted to replace my phone. I just really dislike TouchWiz and I'm not interested to pay that much for a phone in the first place so go figure :|
Truth. G1 has had crazy longevity. Some of the Android dev guys recently said that any phone that runs Froyo well should run Gingerbread without any problems. So the fact that rooted G1's with the right kernels will be able to run full Gingerbread is just awesome. I remember a year ago people weren't even sure if the G1 would be able to run Eclair! And yeah, I'm feeling the G2 way more than the Nexus S overall.
For me - QWERTY and the microSD slot are the main two features as both of those are high up on my priority list. I saw the NFC chip and front camera as the tradeoff with the Nexus S, but it'll be a couple years before anyone does anything really interesting with NFC anyway, and there's still no native video chat with Gingerbread so the G2 comes out on top in that respect. When you type as much as I do, not having a QWERTY is a serious compromise. And now that you can get 16GB microSD cards for like, $30... I just don't understand why they took it out in the Nexus S.
On top of that, I don't like the designs of Samsung phones. I think they're pretty ugly compared to HTC. The G2 looks classy with the titanium back panel and solid build quality.... Samsung's devices feel kinda cheap to me. The only one I like is the Epic 4G, but it's CDMA only......so useless to anyone outside of the US. The radio bands in the G2 work for 3G in the US and in the UK, which are the two places I'll obviously be using it the most. On top of all that, $330 for the G2 new on eBay VS $550 for the Nexus..... the Nexus has slightly better hardware, but not $220 better when I'd already feel like I'm compromising by not having a keyboard.
Yeah, I saw it. Kinda hard to judge just what it's capable of now since it's running Froyo and even Gingerbread isn't yet optimized for dual core devices. Gotta wait till Honeycomb for that. Nice looking hardware on the Star but WTF at that new LG UI they've got going on.... it looks like TouchWiz and I hate TouchWiz.
Speed is comparable. Bear in mind with custom kernels people are already running G2's at 1.9GhZ. They're probably running the risk of it exploding lol but I reckon you could run it stable at 1.6GhZ. Not that there's anything on Android that needs it. I've yet to find a single app that doesn't run perfectly on my cousins HTC Desire which has the old 1GhZ Snapdragon..... and as we know, the Scorpion in the G2 is a superior processor.
I fucking DESPISE Sense UI with a passion. I had to use it when I was flashing custom ROM's all the time on the HTC Hero that one of my cousins has. It's horrible, laggy in places due to being poorly written, a memory hog, convoluted, annoying, and they've replaced good parts of stock Android with inferior replacements. Have you ever used "People" which is the Sense contacts app? It's fucking terrible. My cousin that has the HTC Desire specifically asked for a stock ROM to get rid of Sense so I put Cyanogen on there and he much prefers it.
You know what, I've read a few people saying this but the fact remains that most of them haven't used it themselves. I demo'd a Desire Z at HTC's London launch party and it's really not that bad.... I prefer the keyboard layout of the G1 but I know I'll get used to the G2 layout really quickly. Also, it has shortcut buttons on the keyboard that you can map to launch any app or service which is awesome, and it has a "www./.com" button which is pretty self explanatory and obviously handy.
Screen quality is probably quite literally the lowest priority on my list. I really don't see a great deal of difference. If a phone had all the things I wanted and also happened to have a SAMOLED, obviously I wouldn't complain, but there isn't a phone out there that fits that description other than the US-only Epic 4G. It's not like I plan to watch movies on my phone LOL. I have a HDTV and a laptop that are better suited for that task.
I could have waited longer and seen how things go in Q1 and Q2, but I need a new phone right now, I just got my quarterly royalties statement for songwriting which put a nice chunk into my account, so I figured why wait, and right now the G2 ticks all of the boxes, which even the Nexus S doesn't.
Something else I discovered through all of this..... I just got this G2 on eBay US for £200 UK, and somebody just sold a sim-unlocked G2 on eBay UK for just under £400. I'm thinking maybe I'll buy a couple more, SIM-unlock them myself and flip 'em to make a few extra bucks. If people are willing to pay that much then I may as well
The G2 devs on XDA built SIM-unlocking into the same process as rooting, so you don't even need to go out of your way to SIM unlock like you do with some devices.
For me - QWERTY and the microSD slot are the main two features as both of those are high up on my priority list. I saw the NFC chip and front camera as the tradeoff with the Nexus S, but it'll be a couple years before anyone does anything really interesting with NFC anyway, and there's still no native video chat with Gingerbread so the G2 comes out on top in that respect. When you type as much as I do, not having a QWERTY is a serious compromise. And now that you can get 16GB microSD cards for like, $30... I just don't understand why they took it out in the Nexus S.
On top of that, I don't like the designs of Samsung phones. I think they're pretty ugly compared to HTC. The G2 looks classy with the titanium back panel and solid build quality.... Samsung's devices feel kinda cheap to me. The only one I like is the Epic 4G, but it's CDMA only......so useless to anyone outside of the US. The radio bands in the G2 work for 3G in the US and in the UK, which are the two places I'll obviously be using it the most. On top of all that, $330 for the G2 new on eBay VS $550 for the Nexus..... the Nexus has slightly better hardware, but not $220 better when I'd already feel like I'm compromising by not having a keyboard.
Yeah, I saw it. Kinda hard to judge just what it's capable of now since it's running Froyo and even Gingerbread isn't yet optimized for dual core devices. Gotta wait till Honeycomb for that. Nice looking hardware on the Star but WTF at that new LG UI they've got going on.... it looks like TouchWiz and I hate TouchWiz.
Speed is comparable. Bear in mind with custom kernels people are already running G2's at 1.9GhZ. They're probably running the risk of it exploding lol but I reckon you could run it stable at 1.6GhZ. Not that there's anything on Android that needs it. I've yet to find a single app that doesn't run perfectly on my cousins HTC Desire which has the old 1GhZ Snapdragon..... and as we know, the Scorpion in the G2 is a superior processor.
I fucking DESPISE Sense UI with a passion. I had to use it when I was flashing custom ROM's all the time on the HTC Hero that one of my cousins has. It's horrible, laggy in places due to being poorly written, a memory hog, convoluted, annoying, and they've replaced good parts of stock Android with inferior replacements. Have you ever used "People" which is the Sense contacts app? It's fucking terrible. My cousin that has the HTC Desire specifically asked for a stock ROM to get rid of Sense so I put Cyanogen on there and he much prefers it.
You know what, I've read a few people saying this but the fact remains that most of them haven't used it themselves. I demo'd a Desire Z at HTC's London launch party and it's really not that bad.... I prefer the keyboard layout of the G1 but I know I'll get used to the G2 layout really quickly. Also, it has shortcut buttons on the keyboard that you can map to launch any app or service which is awesome, and it has a "www./.com" button which is pretty self explanatory and obviously handy.
Screen quality is probably quite literally the lowest priority on my list. I really don't see a great deal of difference. If a phone had all the things I wanted and also happened to have a SAMOLED, obviously I wouldn't complain, but there isn't a phone out there that fits that description other than the US-only Epic 4G. It's not like I plan to watch movies on my phone LOL. I have a HDTV and a laptop that are better suited for that task.
I could have waited longer and seen how things go in Q1 and Q2, but I need a new phone right now, I just got my quarterly royalties statement for songwriting which put a nice chunk into my account, so I figured why wait, and right now the G2 ticks all of the boxes, which even the Nexus S doesn't.
Something else I discovered through all of this..... I just got this G2 on eBay US for £200 UK, and somebody just sold a sim-unlocked G2 on eBay UK for just under £400. I'm thinking maybe I'll buy a couple more, SIM-unlock them myself and flip 'em to make a few extra bucks. If people are willing to pay that much then I may as well
The G2 devs on XDA built SIM-unlocking into the same process as rooting, so you don't even need to go out of your way to SIM unlock like you do with some devices.Yeah so the point remains that it all comes down to needs and priorities.
I also don't really like Sense as phone's UI as of design and usability - I prefer generic Android. However I love extra usability that it gives. I mean the new Sense. Very cool stuff imo.
200 pounds for that phone is extremely cheap. Here it's in the 450-500 pound price range.
I also don't really like Sense as phone's UI as of design and usability - I prefer generic Android. However I love extra usability that it gives. I mean the new Sense. Very cool stuff imo.
200 pounds for that phone is extremely cheap. Here it's in the 450-500 pound price range.
Seems like everyone outside of the States thinks things are "cheaper" in the States. It may be true, but does that mean people in other countries just don't buy anything because it's all too expensive?
In my eyes, the Droid X is the best phone out there right now. Not just for me, but I think most people would gladly sacrifice 2.3 (temporarily, although a DX GB ROM is supposedly out) and a 4.0" AMOLED screen for 8MP and HD recording. And LED notifications. And a microSD card slot. And not being on Shit-Mobile.
In my eyes, the Droid X is the best phone out there right now. Not just for me, but I think most people would gladly sacrifice 2.3 (temporarily, although a DX GB ROM is supposedly out) and a 4.0" AMOLED screen for 8MP and HD recording. And LED notifications. And a microSD card slot. And not being on Shit-Mobile.
At the moment I am happy if the phone runs nicely. My benchmark was at 2000, and is now at 1250. But it still flies when I am using it, so I have no issues. I don't care what the benchmark says. I am not looking to upgrade just yet. And a processor update isn't what I am looking for. I have the best available screen in a phone. I have quick enough processing, and enough ram. There are no features on the new phones that I want. Or any in the near future. I am also a bit disappointed by the nexus s.
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