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THEV1LL4N

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Yawn.

Android is OPEN SOURCE. Period. Point blank. End of story. The source is publically available. Obviously they're not going to open source it while they're still working on it. That doesn't make sense. Features get written and pulled from major releases if they aren't ready yet. Competition would steal ideas before Google got a chance to ship them.

The fact remains is that the source is right there for anyone to download, modify, compile and flash onto their own device or emulator.

As for checking in code, the Android developer community HAS been doing that, and Android since 2.0 has included many contributions from the community.

Open Source is a large term that covers a lot of differing situations, but Hewitt making arguments about "this is more open source than that" is pointless.
^^ word.
 

masta247

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yup, most "open" programs are way less open than Android.
Also it's a fact that some companies take a complete, open system, make a few changes and release it as a closed, expensive program.
For hardcore examples..*wink*...Apple MacOS..*wink*..Unix.
 

Casey

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If you have 2.2.....the new Gingerbread YouTube update is now available in the Market.

YouTube Gets Redesigned (”Gingerbread Version”) & Heads to the Market | Android Phone Fans

Many of you were skeptics regarding information we let out regarding the forthcoming upgrade for Android – Gingerbread. One piece of info we told you guys about was a new YouTube app – version 2.0 – that got a significant overhaul in terms of looks to bring it up to par with the rest of the OS. Sure enough, YouTube just hit the Android market today, and it’s everything we heard it would be.


The app has been updated with the ability to like and dislike videos, play videos in portrait mode while taking a gander at other information, and more tidbits we have yet to take a dive into.
I don’t want to say I told you so, but if you don’t believe that we have some hardcore information on Gingerbread now, then this should be our first step to proving just that. We are still digging for more on Gingerbread to share with you in the near future, but for now, just know that that YouTube app we talked about back then is now available for anyone and everyone to download.

[Update]: As far as we can tell, this looks to be for devices running Android 2.2 (and higher). We can’t find it on our 2.1-enabled Fascinate and I’ve checked in with a few friends to see if their Eclair phones could find it. No sale.
 

S O F I

Administrator
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yup, most "open" programs are way less open than Android.
Also it's a fact that some companies take a complete, open system, make a few changes and release it as a closed, expensive program.
For hardcore examples..*wink*...Apple MacOS..*wink*..Unix.
The article names a couple systems more open than Android. I'm no tech geek like Mr. Simon the polish sausage with sour cream, so I'm interested in the costs vs. benefits of Android being just as open as Mozilla and Linux.
 

masta247

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Mozilla and Linux don't have their "teams" that are paid and set to work on a project.
Whoever wants to can join in and help with whatever he thinks he's good at - be it programming, marketing or whatever else. It results in cons mostly because these teams are full of people who want to gain experience in a major project (working for free). There's no proper analysis stage and usually no proper project management whatsoever.

Android is backed up by Google and their specialists create it like any other software. These are professionals who are paid to do it properly.
The community can do whatever they want with it as soon as Google finishes their part - that's before it gets loaded on any phone. And next important part is that Google doesn't sell that thing. People can do whatever they want with it and phone manufacturers are free to pick whichever version they want and then even modify it for themselves. Then the community can mod it even further on their phones thanks to source codes that are available. None of these could happen on a platform that wasn't open, you would have to use the final product as it was with not even slightest modifications.

The only con to Google's approach really is that people can't add their parts of code during the development, if you can even call it a con because in reality it means less fuck ups as Google hires top class IT specialists that can make the system as good as it can be. Of course anyone can send their parts of code and suggestions to Google and they might consider using them. You are also free to do any modification after Google finish their job.

Linux = amateur open, Google = professional open. That's my definition.
 

Casey

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I just installed the new YouTube app. It's nice. I particularly like being able to watch videos in portrait mode and read comments etc at the same time. That is very cool. It also seems to run more smoothly. I'll delve deeper in the morning.

Regarding the open source debate, let's not forget that Android is BASED on Linux with Google's own development built on top. So in that respect, much of Android IS open source as it goes along, because every major Android release obviously uses the latest Linux kernels. So for that percentage, you can view the code as it's in development because you can just look at the Linux source.
 

dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
After flashing a new ROM, it won't install. Keeps saying it was unsuccessful. I deleted the old YouTube app, and still nothing. Oh well.
 

Cooper

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I just installed the new YouTube app. It's nice. I particularly like being able to watch videos in portrait mode and read comments etc at the same time. That is very cool. It also seems to run more smoothly. I'll delve deeper in the morning.
Reading Youtube comments will destroy your brain
 

Casey

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Only a little thing, but still all kinds of epic. This is what happens on Gingerbread when you turn the screen off :)


We promised we’d be digging for more information about Gingerbread well ahead of its coming out party, and we’re making steady progress. We initially broke the news on Monday. While most of you remained skeptic thanks to the world’s worst screen grab ever, we expect some of you have come around to trusting us now that the YouTube app we talked about in that post officially launched a few days later. Today, we have a little bit more.

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What you see above is what happens in Gingerbread when turning your screen off: a cool effect not unlike what we used to see when turning a TV off back in the tube days. It’s nothing groundbreaking, but it certainly is nice and it’s worthy to note that this is the first time we’ve seen animations of this sort triggered upon hitting the designated screen off button on your phone. Note that no theme for any custom ROM or any version of Android is able to trigger such an animation, leading us to believe that this is – in fact – the real deal.

That’s it for now, but again, we’re always digging for more. Stick with us as we try to get the blueprints of this sweet house laid out before it’s ready to be built.
 

THEV1LL4N

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i hate that llama.

its also quite good to be honest. the widget and the lock screen controls are good. but now i have to take the phone out of my pocket to skip tracks as opposed to holding the volume up/down keys (on the default android music player) to skip back and forth. but its good nevertheless, and gives us yet more choice.
 

dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
That sounds awesome. Although my world has been rocked after seeing that Qualcomm has the best processor out right now, and rapes everything out right now. I was lead to believe that ti's and Samsung's processors were always superior. This G2 is raping even the DX, it seems.

So normally I would be thinking, "yay, finally a phone with the best Samsung has to offer (I think that A10 is due out sometime next year, right?) but now we have to see if it beats the current Snapdragon with the Scorpion, and by how much.
 

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