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Casey

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THEV1LL4N

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No, they won't. Li-ion batteries are safe. Li-ion batteries are more keen to explode than leak. But it rarely happens and it does only when overcharged - for example if charged by an old school charger :p
They are more sensitive like that. Happened with Dell laptops for example.
oh that's great. when you say overcharged that also means by 1 or 2 hours longer, should that make much difference at all if any? (using the correct charging equipment that came with the camera).
 

dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
Masta: What HSPA do for T-Mobile's atrocious coverage in the US? My friends get poor reception wherever they go but I'm still intrigued by their devices. I know nothing about HSPA but I do hear it a lot in the blogs. Will it boost their coverage map to that which is comparable to Verizon or AT&T?
 

dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
Well, it's more so the SIM card I really wish for now. I may be going overseas soon and wish to have the same phone, just switch out the SIM. VZW is getting the LTE and then the dual-radio HTC phone, so that may assuage me, but if T-Mobile gets something better, I want to make sure I can make calls and not be in a dead-zone all the time.
 

masta247

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oh that's great. when you say overcharged that also means by 1 or 2 hours longer, should that make much difference at all if any? (using the correct charging equipment that came with the camera).
No, they control the charge of your batteries and won't overcharge them. You can even leave it plugged in for a few days and nothing should happen because your charger should cut off charging as soon as the battery gets full.
Also, Li-ion batteries aren't charged with a constant current. It decreases the closer it is to your batteries' full capacity. That's also why charging battery till it's full takes much longer than charging half of it.

That said case with Dell notebooks was caused by a chip controlling those batteries, it wouldn't stop charging when the battery was full already. They sometimes ignited because of that. A notebook battery is much bigger though and this is how its explosion looks:
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1042700/dell-laptop-explodes-japanese-conference
And Dell's recall program:
http://www.dellbatteryprogram.com/
 

ARon

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Only phones that t-mob have that are interesting are the g2 and the vibrant. I want to get a g2 cus I want a new phone, g1 is just getting old. I want to wait to see what is going to come out early next year but I don't know if I'll be able to wait that long
 

THEV1LL4N

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No, they control the charge of your batteries and won't overcharge them. You can even leave it plugged in for a few days and nothing should happen because your charger should cut off charging as soon as the battery gets full.
Also, Li-ion batteries aren't charged with a constant current. It decreases the closer it is to your batteries' full capacity. That's also why charging battery till it's full takes much longer than charging half of it.
that right there is amazing and was exactly what i was hoping for... ive always hypothesised that thats how batteries work these days but never know how reliable the information is on them.
 

THEV1LL4N

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Still nothing has materialised about the Samsung Galaxy Q. Last i read about this device, it had a smaller screen and resolution but improved camera compared to the Galaxy S. I'd rather have the same camera and a bigger screen than 3.2 inches.
 

Casey

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Only phones that t-mob have that are interesting are the g2 and the vibrant. I want to get a g2 cus I want a new phone, g1 is just getting old. I want to wait to see what is going to come out early next year but I don't know if I'll be able to wait that long
You forgot the MyTouch HD coming out next month. I find that more interesting than the Vibrant.... it has a front-facing camera also.

I'm down to get a G2 when they come out.
 

THEV1LL4N

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Swear down, my mum best get an Android phone you know.

She's considering Blackberry now... I've offered various LGs, Samsungs, T-mobile pulse mini.

Need something cheap, value and will work good. Good battery life preferably. Maybe the Portal is selling on the cheap. Hope they havent discontinued them.
 

THEV1LL4N

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So im thinking, the Samsung Galaxy i5700 Spica/Portal vs the LG Optimus vs LG InTouch Max vs Samsung Galaxy Apollo.

The Samsung Galaxy Portal i can get for £15/month on 3 Mobile (three.co.uk) and should be able to flash a custom rom using that kitchen that masta posted. this is done from the flashing via the boot menu, right?

£15/month:

24 month(s)
Inclusive UK voice minutes
Inclusive UK text messages
Or any combination of both 300
Three-to-Three minutes 5000
Internet Allowance 500MB

And it should come with Spotify Premium membership.
 

masta247

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So im thinking, the Samsung Galaxy i5700 Spica/Portal vs the LG Optimus vs LG InTouch Max vs Samsung Galaxy Apollo.

The Samsung Galaxy Portal i can get for £15/month on 3 Mobile (three.co.uk) and should be able to flash a custom rom using that kitchen that masta posted. this is done from the flashing via the boot menu, right?

£15/month:

24 month(s)
Inclusive UK voice minutes
Inclusive UK text messages
Or any combination of both 300
Three-to-Three minutes 5000
Internet Allowance 500MB

And it should come with Spotify Premium membership.
LG InTouch Max - I assume it's the same as LG GW620 which I've heard somewhere that it is a good phone.
From those other phones Spica (portal) is the best hands down. That another LG phone is a low end compared to Spica. The I5800 (galaxy apollo) is also inferior - it has a very strange and small screen resolution and touchwiz instead of the generic Android UI. Also a slower processor and inferior build quality.

So GW620 = a pretty decent phone with a QWERTY keyboard.

Spica/Portal = Much better community support, newest software versions and countless new roms from Samsung and Samdroid community, Samdroid Kitchen, better screen and a faster processor.

If you're not going to play with it much then I guess LG wins it with the Qwerty keyboard. Otherwise Spica wins with pretty much everything else. I'm very satisfied with it, despite the fact that sometimes these new high-ends make me a bit jealous of huge Super Amoled screens or better cameras.
As far as performance goes the Samsung 800mhz chip is fast enough. After all it was "a prequel to Hummingbird". It also has an awesome GPU but there is a problem with it - 3D drivers or lack of proper ones. Because of that the CPU renders graphics (and it does very good job at it, for a CPU).
However new GPU drivers are under development by the community and are said to be built in a final build of Samdroid's Android 2.2.
They already made great multi-touch drivers as well as a lot of other fixes.

And that kitchen thing - you have to download a program called Odin, plug in your phone via usb in recovery mode, install any of those new Android 2.1 roms and then "cook your kitchen" online and download it, place it on your sd card, enter phone's recovery mode again and install it from there. You're done - you have the newest Android version, any Kernel you wish, any rom with everything you want and rooted.
Everything is described in bigger detail on Samdroid.net
 

dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
The Galaxy phones are using TouchWiz? Is it as intrusive of a UI as Sense? Does the Home screen look different, and that's it, or are the menus boned as well?
 

masta247

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Only new Galaxy phones use Touchwiz - The Galaxy S and i5800/i5801 (aka. Galaxy Apollo).

Imo it's better than Sense UI but each to his own. The app drawer and main menu are "screwed" too - it looks a bit Iphone-ish. But you can always download a different launcher if you don't like it. Then you'll be limited to the home screen and a few other minor things like widgets or Samsung's apps which are usually good.
At least it works that way on Wave which also has the same UI but installed over a different operating system.
 

Casey

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TouchWiz sucks.

Sense 2.0 (so far only on the Desire Z/Desire HD) is a million times better than TouchWiz and less intrusive than the original Sense. It's by far the best of all the custom UI's.

I even have a few arguments as to why it'd be better to use for most people than stock Android.... but I'm not "most" people and for the hidden benefits of stock mean that it's the only way to go.

But I left the HTC event incredibly impressed with Sense 2.0. Much more than I thought I would or could ever be.
 

dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
Moving away from phones and tablets, what about ereaders, especially the nook? Has anyone had any experience with the Kindle either?

I did not know that they came with free 3G where it was available. I haven't looked too deep into it, but web browsing on that thing would be pretty cool and it's almost like a pseudo-tablet.....for $150 for the WiFi model.
 

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