Abortion

[Amara]

I'm totally against it.
Think before you go fuckin around, and use those god damn pills.
If you were raped, I'm sure there's something you can do before it becomes a fetus.I believe they're called emergency pills?

But is not the main argument for anti-abortionists the right to life, in which case contraceptives, including the morning after pill are also contrary to 'the laws of nature' or whatever. So to accept one (contraceptives) but not the other (abortion) would be hypocritical.

I have no strong opinion on the subject of abortion. I would never consider one because it would be like losing a part of myself and also for the fact that I feel I own my actions and often the most unexpected events in life can turn out to be the best.

Having said that, I would never presume to know what is in the best interests of others. The fact that I couldnt do something like that to my body and my child, does not mean that I should impose that way of thinking upon everyone. I feel the choice should be there, although not taken advantage of (some level of responsibility should be taken).

 

[devils_advok8]

But is not the main argument for anti-abortionists the right to life, in which case contraceptives, including the morning after pill are also contrary to 'the laws of nature' or whatever. So to accept one (contraceptives) but not the other (abortion) would be hypocritical.

I have no strong opinion on the subject of abortion. I would never consider one because it would be like losing a part of myself and also for the fact that I feel I own my actions and often the most unexpected events in life can turn out to be the best.

Having said that, I would never presume to know what is in the best interests of others. The fact that I couldnt do something like that to my body and my child, does not mean that I should impose that way of thinking upon everyone. I feel the choice should be there, although not taken advantage of (some level of responsibility should be taken).

Yes, but it's different when you try to prevent by all means possible, than when you can care less, and you do something when it evolves.

 

[The.Menace]

because my mom has told me she considered it. People always consider abortion if ther havin an accident child. It may only be a quick thought, but they do think about it. Wut im tryin to say is that i no my brother and hes lived a rilly good life so far, and if my mom had chose an abortion, she would hav killed someone with a bright future. And if she had aborted him, like ive sed a hundred times, i wudnt be around. neither wud my younger brother. So not only wud that abortion kill one life, it wud hav killed 3

that is not right. U can't kill something that doesn't exists. You wouldn't be here, maybe but seriously, would it matter? I mean, for us it doesn't really matter if your mom has 3 children or none. Sorry to say that but it's the truth. Maybe her life would be better without the children - who knows? I dunno, you sit there and feel like it was the right thing to do cause no abortion means you live - but form a neutral point of view without emotions I say who knows if it was the right desicion?

people might consider abortion - but considering doesn't matter. Many come to teh conclusion that they want the child and raise it - does it matter if the considered abortion? I don't think so. Do we have to ban something just cause many consider it? Nope.

I still believe there are situation where it's the best not to have a child, therefor I'm pro abortion. In your situation it might have been wrong, but you are only one example. Just because your parents did consider it and it was the right thing not to do it doesn't mean that it's over all, always the right thing to do.

 

[Amara]

Yes, but it's different when you try to prevent by all means possible, than when you can care less, and you do something when it evolves.

That reasoning doesn't entirely make sense, what if a condom broke, a pill was forgotten or rendered inneffective by other meds... if you judge abortion on whether someone 'tried to prevent it or not' it runs the risk of having to make very arbitrary decisions.

I understand though that what you are trying to say is that people should take responsibility and utilise measures to prevent pregnancy not simply rely on the possibility of abortion, yet no contraceptive methods are 100 percent reliable - so to disallow abortion because contraceptives are available produces a gray area of discussion as well as failing to take account of the moral issues which usually lie at the heart of the issue.

 

[S O F I]

If abortion is murder, masturbation is genocide.

 

[devils_advok8]

That reasoning doesn't entirely make sense, what if a condom broke, a pill was forgotten or rendered inneffective by other meds... if you judge abortion on whether someone 'tried to prevent it or not' it runs the risk of having to make very arbitrary decisions.

I understand though that what you are trying to say is that people should take responsibility and utilise measures to prevent pregnancy not simply rely on the possibility of abortion, yet no contraceptive methods are 100 percent reliable - so to disallow abortion because contraceptives are available produces a gray area of discussion as well as failing to take account of the moral issues which usually lie at the heart of the issue.

Yep.A condom broke, a pil forgetten, etc, they should take responsibility and be cautious.

 

[Little Skittle]

If abortion is murder, masturbation is genocide.

so wut does that make me? a sperm nazi?

p.s.- against abortion

 

[FroDawgg]

If abortion is murder, masturbation is genocide.

no it's not, abortion is the killing of the fetus formed by sperm and an egg. since only one is released during masturbation and does not come in contact with the other, nothing is created, therefore nothing is killed.

 

[S O F I]

^Agreed. However, you need sperm to create the fetus, and by masturbation, you're wasting sperm which is used to create fetus. My post was more on a wider scale, not so much scientific. I'm pro-abortion, by the way.

 

[Synful*Luv]

I guess I'm pro-choice.

I think it should be each individual's own right to decided whether they want to keep a child or not. I don't believe one should have to have a child simply because that's the law.

If everyone who "accidently" became pregnant was forced to have the child, think about how many children would be put up for adoption, in foster homes, in group homes, as wards of their individual state.

IMO, a child growing up not knowing its background and without a family to love it is worst than destroying a fetus. A child has feelings and knows that it's not wanted and unloved, a fetus of three months or less, is only blood and tissue.

So, I know ppl are gonna disagree with me and make statements like "killing a fetus is wrong" but I think there's a worst evil. And that's having a child and mistreating it because you don't love it/don't want it. And giving a child away to the system where it'll never feel loved or as a part of a family.

 

[The.Menace]

I agree, that's what I actually tried to say, I was just too lazy to make a long post. . For real, killing a fetus is not the best thing to do, I know that, but to force someone to have a child is worse.

 

[Saint33]

I agree, that's what I actually tried to say, I was just too lazy to make a long post. . For real, killing a fetus is not the best thing to do, I know that, but to force someone to have a child is worse.

Its worse to force someone to hav a child? they made the choice to hav a child. If ur not ready to hav a child, then u shouldnt be havin sex.

But wit that said, thers always the choice of adoption. And Syn, u say its better to kill a fetus, then to force them to be adopted? Im sry, but i hav a few friends that r adopted. They love ther legal parents, way more than the would ever hav loved ther real parents. If u wer to ask them if theyd rather be born and live a life wit an adopted family, or to be killed before they wer born, but avoid havin to not be "loved" by ther real parents, theyd all choose adoption.

And even if they do end up wit shitty lives. Jus because someone has had, or is goin to hav, a "bad" life, they deserve to be killed? I don think so. Like i said, if u had the choice, life or death? wut wud u choose.

Everyone that is Pro-abortion, is thinkin in the case of the mother, but not thinkin in the case of baby. If the mother makes the mistake of havin a child, that is her fault, unless its rape, then the baby should be put up for adoption. Killin the baby shouldnt be an option. Ther hav been many people, who hav grown up in shitty conditions and hav made themselves into something special (Tupac jus to name one)

 

[Khaled]

Its worse to force someone to hav a child? they made the choice to hav a child. If ur not ready to hav a child, then u shouldnt be havin sex.

???? so you don't have sex if you don't want children???

a child is a big responsibility, if you don't want him, abortion is a better option than putting him up for adoption.

i m for the (parent's right to choose), cuz i don't think they should be forced to live with one mistake (which might not be their fault if some condom breaks for instance)
from the foetus point of view, you only took away the potential of a life, not a real life, (samewirth sperrm)

 

[The.Menace]

Its worse to force someone to hav a child? they made the choice to hav a child. If ur not ready to hav a child, then u shouldnt be havin sex.

No, what you don't understand is that it's not always a choice to have a child. Accidents do happen. If you really believe in what you said right here, don't post no more in "DoForLove". You're 16, not ready to have a child, you shouldn't have any sexual experiences then. If you believe in what you say, noone should have sex until they grown up and have a job to be able to support a family, what would bascially mean that some of us had to wait with havin sex until the age of 25 or something. Nope, you have sex yourself, at least that is what you said on here, and that means you don't even believe in this yourself or you lied whenever you said you had sex before.

Like i said, if u had the choice, life or death? wut wud u choose.

death, boy, death.

 

[Saint33]

^^ to both of u, i don mean u hav to want a child or be economicly ready, i jus mean if ur havin sex, u shud no thers a risk of havin a kid. So if u get pregnant or get the girl pregnant, u shud get ready for wuts cumin. I hav had sex before, and in all honesty, if i got a girl pregnant i wud own up to it, be a man and be a dad. Thats the risk im willin to take, i take the precautions, like usin a condom, but i accept that thers a chance at an accident, so mentally im prepared. If ur havin sex don be surprised wen u get a girl pregnant, and don take the cowards way out and jus kill off a pontential like. U cud be killin off the next Einstien or Tupac.

Also for all those people sayin jerkin off is the same as abortion, stfu, ther not even close. Masterbation is a natural and normal thing, abortion is not natural.

And Menace, if u choose death over life, go kill urself then

 

[The.Menace]

You're 16 - you're far from beeing mentally ready. I think it's a good thing that u would be a man - but just because u're willing to be a man doesn't mean you're ready to be one. Second point, why is "beeing mentaly ready" enough 2 have sex? If you really consider that an accident might happen, you shouldn't only be mentaly ready but have a job and be ready to actually really take care of a whole family. So again, if you really believe in what you said, you shouldn't have sex until you are ready for a child in EVERY way. Since you don't act like this and still have sex, u don't believe in your own words.

And Menace, if u choose death over life, go kill urself then

Don't worry, I will after I did what I have to.

 

[Khaled]

^^
I think you cannot kill something that isn't born yet. you re just preventing him from being born
you're saying you might be killing the next einstein...
in this case, it means than you have to have sex and have babies any chance you get, or else you might be preventing the birth of the next einstein or tupac

 

[Illuminattile]

Also for all those people sayin jerkin off is the same as abortion, stfu, ther not even close. Masterbation is a natural and normal thing, abortion is not natural.

Neither is contraception.

 

[FroDawgg]

Its worse to force someone to hav a child? they made the choice to hav a child. If ur not ready to hav a child, then u shouldnt be havin sex.

But wit that said, thers always the choice of adoption. And Syn, u say its better to kill a fetus, then to force them to be adopted? Im sry, but i hav a few friends that r adopted. They love ther legal parents, way more than the would ever hav loved ther real parents. If u wer to ask them if theyd rather be born and live a life wit an adopted family, or to be killed before they wer born, but avoid havin to not be "loved" by ther real parents, theyd all choose adoption.

And even if they do end up wit shitty lives. Jus because someone has had, or is goin to hav, a "bad" life, they deserve to be killed? I don think so. Like i said, if u had the choice, life or death? wut wud u choose.

Everyone that is Pro-abortion, is thinkin in the case of the mother, but not thinkin in the case of baby. If the mother makes the mistake of havin a child, that is her fault, unless its rape, then the baby should be put up for adoption. Killin the baby shouldnt be an option. Ther hav been many people, who hav grown up in shitty conditions and hav made themselves into something special (Tupac jus to name one)

agree 100%; it's not about the mother--it's about the baby

 

[Valeoz]

If the woman was involved in voluntary sexual activity then abortion should not be allowed. But if the women was involved in involuntary sexual activity (e.g. rape) then yes abortion should be allowed. This is as far as I go on abortion. I believe this is how the law should be made.