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masta247

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Mobile phone makers are going in the wrong direction. The key is to utilize and optimize less processing power, not more. Look to Apple goddamnit.
Yeah that's what I always say. Efficiency instead of brute power. But that's not what they made people want.
Apple is headed that direction too. Their OS is simple compared to Android and requires less resources yet they updated Iphone's processor to dual core which was not needed. It was just so they could say "hey, now we have a dual core processor in our phone too".

I'm perfectly fine with my single core processor as it does everything I want it to do and does it fast and smooth. I don't need more at the moment. Of course I wish they optimized Android better, made these processors more efficient - energy efficient too. But I really don't think adding all that power is justified now.
 

THEV1LL4N

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i wouldn't want more than dual-core in my phone. not for the foreseeable future anyway. there's all these major organisations talking about going green and sustaining the environment. They should have the same ethos for these mobile devices where things are conservative but optimised, meaning fewer charges required and more battery life span without a compromise in performance. they should take that step before improving the hardware specs. it should also help to keep manufacturing costs lower for the long-term.
 

dilla

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Well, look at how late Apple released a dual core phone. When people argue Android vs. iOS, they always, always, always, bring up hardware. So dual cores are silly, yet we're looking at a quad core coming up soon. RAM seems to be ok, and probably one of the most important in multitasking, which is all the rage these days. But how can you have efficiency when people want Tegra 3s and shit? For what, gaming? I know gaming laptops aren't known to be the most power-efficient. All that power and fluidity comes at the expense of battery life. So what is it that manufacturers need to do? Tweak Android? Everyone wants stock, Vanilla Android, right? Then there's nothing to change, hardware-wise, to make your phone's numbers look bigger and better than the others other than just bumping up the number of cores or clock speed.
 

Pittsey

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Steve Jobs wasn't too fond of Android.
(Credit: James Martin/CNET)
Google executive chairman Eric Schmidt has taken issue with Steve Jobs' claims that Android copied the iPhone.
"Our lawsuit is saying, 'Google you f***ing ripped off the iPhone, wholesale ripped us off," Jobs told his biographer, Walter Isaacson, about the lawsuits that Apple is engaged in with Android vendors Samsung, HTC, and others. "I will spend my last dying breath if I need to, and I will spend every penny of Apple's $40 billion in the bank, to right this wrong. I'm going to destroy Android, because it's a stolen product.
"I'm willing to go thermonuclear war on this," Jobs added.
Speaking to reporters in South Korea today, Schmidt responded by saying that he didn't want to comment on the book, but would provide some general perspective on Jobs' claims, according to Reuters.

"I've decided not to comment on what's been written on a book after his death," Schmidt said, according to Reuters. "Steve is a fantastic human being and someone who I miss very dearly. As a general comment, I think most people would agree that Google is a great innovator and I would also point out that the Android effort started before the iPhone effort."
Schmidt does have a point. Android Inc. was founded by Andy Rubin in 2003. In 2005, Google acquired the company and hired Rubin to lead the development of the operating system.
The products' launches, however, don't necessarily play into Schmidt's favor. Apple launched its first iPhone in 2007. The first Android-based devices started hitting store shelves in 2008. That said, Apple and Google have a much different strategy when it comes to the mobile space: Apple prefers to sell the hardware and keep its software for itself, while Google makes Android available to handset vendors.
The drama between Apple and Google is only heightened when one considers the strong ties Schmidt had with Apple during the iPhone's development and launch phase. Schmidt was named to Apple's board in 2006, less than a year before the launch of the iPhone. In 2009, he resigned from the board due to increasing competition between his company and Apple.

Google executive chairman Eric Schmidt.
(Credit: Greg Sandoval/CNET)
Soon after, it was reported that Schmidt and Jobs were not as friendly as they had been when the then Google CEO joined Apple's board. But last month, Schmidt denied those claims, saying he and Jobs were, in fact, friendly.
"We understood it was a possibility when I joined the board," Schmidt said of the possible conflicts of interest with Apple. "We had adult conversations about it at the beginning and the end...all those reports in the press were wrong. After I left the board, they had me to events and to private dinners."
Aside from Jobs, Schmidt also discussed concerns that his company's $12.5 billion Motorola Mobility acquisition might negatively impact the Android ecosystem.
"In general, with all of our partners, we told them that the Motorola deal will close and we will run it sufficiently and independently, that it will not violate the openness of Android...we're not going to change in any material way the way we operate," Schmidt told reporters
 

Flipmo

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Some more info on the ASUS tablet...

Asus makes official quad-core Transformer Prime tablet: Tegra 3 and 8.3mm thick

By Daniel Bader on November 9, 2011 at 12:18pm in Mobile News

When Jonney Shih flashed the Transformer Prime during the AsiaD Conference in Hong Kong three weeks ago, appetites were whetted and expectations heightened. Though the device will be launched with Honeycomb, everything else about the tablet is new: 8.3mm thick, oleophobic-coated aluminum and Gorilla Glass, 10.1″ 1280×800 Super IPS+ display with 180-degree viewing angles, 1GB RAM, 32/64GB internal storage, 8MP backlight-illuminated CMOS sensor and 1.3MP front shooter, all to go along with the brand new quad-core Tegra 3 chipinside.
This is likely the first tablet that will shipping with Tegra 3, which is expected to triple speeds from its predecessor, but will manage the same or better battery life as the original Transformer. Other specs include a microSD and HDMI out, along with GPS, gyroscope and SonicMaster audio profiles.
There will be a new dock included in the package, too, adding another 6 hours to the expected 12-hour battery life. The Asus design team has taken cues from its ZenBook line of laptops, and you can see the resemblance in the sculpted aluminum bezel and matte coating. Whether you’re a fan of Honeycomb is the biggest question here, but that shouldn’t be an issue for long as an Android 4.0 update is slated for before the end of the year.
The 32GB model should be available in December for $499 US and the 64GB for $599 US. Nothing has been confirmed for Canada yet, but we’d expect similar pricing once availability has been announced. Learn more about the Transformer Prime over at Asus.
 

masta247

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That Asus tablet is awesome, even apart from the Tegra 3 thing. Pricing looks very reasonable too for what it packs, and it seems to be hands down the best tablet at the moment.

A shame that it hasn't been designed for ICS from the start. Of course it'll get an update but.. it's never the same.
 

masta247

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It has absolutely nothing to do with Apple. It has something to do with HTML5 (which still can't replace flash and is by far less popular but keeps on gaining popularity),Microsoft and Adobe's Air platform.
Adobe wants profits from Air and they probably poured a lot of money into a mobile Flash player with no gains in exchange. A silly move nevertheless, I'd say. This is what might start killing Flash for desktops too as it'll scare off developers and decision makers.
 

Pittsey

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HTML5 is still going to have the same result for Apple as Flash would. Less revenue in app sales.

A lot of features are going to be available through the browser that were only available as apps before. Therefore there will be less apps, and less money going to Apple. Did you think the blocking of Flash by Apple was for security reasons. In business, as in politics... Economics is the only reason for any decision.
 

Casey

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This is the new Nook Tablet, the sequel to the Nook Color (which I have) and the direct competitor to the Kindle Fire. It's gonna retail at $249 apparently.

Barnes & Noble took the wraps off its brand new Nook Tablet at a press conference in New York City on Monday, and we just spent some hands-on time with the sleek new slate. First things first: the display is amazing. Barnes & Noble spent a fair amount of time during the tablet’s unveiling touting the quality of the display and we have to say, B&N CEO William Lynch wasn’t exaggerating. The display is obviously one of the most important components of any tablet and Barnes & Noble didn’t skimp in this area. The bookseller spent a lot of time comparing its new tablet with Amazon’s upcoming Kindle Fire, and in the display department it’s really not even close. Hit the break for more and don’t forget to check out our hands-on photos in the gallery below.

The case of the Nook Tablet obviously resembles last year’s Nook Color very closely, and while we weren’t allowed to handle the device during the demos, anyone who has used a Nook Color knows that we’re looking at good quality hardware here. Animations and transitions were generally smooth during the demo we were given, though there was some choppiness when moving around certain areas of the UI. The Nook Tablet’s OS is based on the first build of Android 2.3 Gingerbread and phones running this version of Android typically had some issues with lag and bogging as well — especially earlier models that used 1GHz processors like the one in the Nook Tablet.
We’ll reserve final judgement for our full review, but we definitely like what we’ve seen so far. The Nook Tablet launches next week for $249 and pre-orders begin immediately. It’s going to be a tough sell going head to head with Amazon’s $199 Kindle Fire in terms of the content ecosystem Amazon has created. In terms of hardware, however, the Nook Tablet is the hands-down winner when lined up against the Fire.
 

Casey

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Hmm, what could this be? LOL at "these go to eleven", fully Nigel Tufnel Day today. (if you haven't seen spinal tap, fuck you and click here)

http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/11/google-announces-android-special-event-for-november-16th-in-lo/



We just got word from Google of an Android-themed event next week, with little more than the words "These Go to Eleven" right up top -- a reference to a phrase from the 1984 mockumentary This is Spinal Tap. To top things off, the email came from "Nigel Tufnel," Christopher Guest's character from the film. The event kicks off in Los Angeles at 2PM local time (that's 5PM for you folks on the East Coast) on Wednesday, November 16th. We'll be there live, and so will you -- catch the livestream at YouTube.com/Android. There are a few more subtle hints in the invite teaser image, so jump past the break to see if you can pick them out.
Speculation that it might be the launch of the Music download section of the Market, guess we'll wait and find out!
 

Casey

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Apple did it about as wrong as you can possibly do it. It's their worst selling product. And I have my laptop hooked up to my flatscreen as well, but Google TV is still better. At least, version 2.0 with the apps and Honeycomb. I think it just shipped WAY too early. They probably shouldn't have released it at all till now. I'm still buying one though. Logitech may have jumped ship but others like Sony are still fully on board.
 

Pittsey

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I love how you go on about GoogleTV and AppleTV as if they are the market leaders. There are already better developed and very successful products out their which are vastly superior to both. And a hell of a lot better than connecting a laptop.
 

Casey

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I love how you go on about GoogleTV and AppleTV as if they are the market leaders. There are already better developed and very successful products out their which are vastly superior to both. And a hell of a lot better than connecting a laptop.
Yeah, I know that. It's more about the potential and the ability to run Android apps on the TV. Synergy with Google Music etc. Right now, I just use the laptop over HDMI in order to watch TV shows that I download. That's all I use it for.
 

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