Your opinions on the war thus far

[BC_BIGBUDZ420]

Was the war in iraq worth the 300 billion you guys have spent on it?

if you think it was please explain

from an outsiders standpoint that 300 billion has been completely wasted

killing hundreds of thousands in the name of peace, and taking there oil while they are left with a cival war, and one hell of a mess to clean up

is it possible that that money could have been put to better use on thing such as healthcare, especially for your veterans

its sad for me to watch the veterans thats fought so hard for us get denied the proper healthcare they where promised

some of your vets have to wait up to 3 years before they can get the healthcare they need

imo that is just pathetic

another thing it should have been used on is getting medication for your seniors at an affordable price, instead of them having to make cross boarder trips to canada just to fill there perscriptions


its sad that most of you dont realize what a waste it was spending that money just to liberate a country you plan to later rape for its resources later on

not to mention the suffering you have put those poor iraqis throught after they have allready suffered so much


and now your coke head president wants to drag you into iran, except this war will prob cost you 10x more

all of this for a false sence of security being spoon fed to you trhgout your local newstations

when it reality the iraq and iran wars will not bring you securty

far from it

instead all that will be accomplished is the start of your demise, your lives drafted into the hands of a lunitic on a suicide mission with no apparent end in sight

 

[PuffnScruff]

Was the war in iraq worth the 300 billion you guys have spent on it?

if you think it was please explain

from an outsiders standpoint that 300 billion has been completely wasted

killing hundreds of thousands in the name of peace, and taking there oil while they are left with a cival war, and one hell of a mess to clean up

is it possible that that money could have been put to better use on thing such as healthcare, especially for your veterans

its sad for me to watch the veterans thats fought so hard for us get denied the proper healthcare they where promised

some of your vets have to wait up to 3 years before they can get the healthcare they need

imo that is just pathetic

another thing it should have been used on is getting medication for your seniors at an affordable price, instead of them having to make cross boarder trips to canada just to fill there perscriptions


its sad that most of you dont realize what a waste it was spending that money just to liberate a country you plan to later rape for its resources later on

not to mention the suffering you have put those poor iraqis throught after they have allready suffered so much


and now your coke head president wants to drag you into iran, except this war will prob cost you 10x more

all of this for a false sence of security being spoon fed to you trhgout your local newstations

when it reality the iraq and iran wars will not bring you securty

far from it

instead all that will be accomplished is the start of your demise, your lives drafted into the hands of a lunitic on a suicide mission with no apparent end in sight

were the billions of dollars spent over the years on the "war on drugs" worth it? never really seemed to solve anything.

affordable medication for seniors? well lets see, bush tried to get a bill passed that would lower cost for seniors. is failed to get passed by one vote. would you liked to guess which former democrat presidental nominee for the 2004 election was out on a ski trip that day?

we wouldnt have to rely on oil from foreign sources like iraq and saudi arabia, if congress would pass the bill thats been in front of them for the past 4 years that would make the US less dependant on foreign sources of energy. 4 years!

iran. shit dont even get started on iran. iran is a horriable place. have you ever known anyone who is from iran. they will tell you its terriable.. family counsins are forced to marry. women have no rights. would u want to live in iran? i doubt it.

we dont have enough troops for iraq, we wont be going to war with iran anytime soon.

btw, which conspiracy website do you visit again?

 

[BC_BIGBUDZ420]

were the billions of dollars spent over the years on the "war on drugs" worth it? never really seemed to solve anything.

affordable medication for seniors? well lets see, bush tried to get a bill passed that would lower cost for seniors. is failed to get passed by one vote. would you liked to guess which former democrat presidental nominee for the 2004 election was out on a ski trip that day?

we wouldnt have to rely on oil from foreign sources like iraq and saudi arabia, if congress would pass the bill thats been in front of them for the past 4 years that would make the US less dependant on foreign sources of energy. 4 years!

iran. shit dont even get started on iran. iran is a horriable place. have you ever known anyone who is from iran. they will tell you its terriable.. family counsins are forced to marry. women have no rights. would u want to live in iran? i doubt it.

we dont have enough troops for iraq, we wont be going to war with iran anytime soon.

btw, which conspiracy website do you visit again?

so you think that congress is to blame for the war in Iraq?

I hope your right about the U.S not invading Iran, but its bound to occur because Iran wants to build nuclear facilities and isreal does not want them to

and with the U.S on isreals dick a war is bound to result if such a facility is erected

i did not realize that Kerry fuck over your senior like that

i def feel sorry for them

and yes the war on drugs has been a terrible failure, nothing more than a way to fill up the prisons of those who are profiting from the system

 

[2PacThug4Life]

have we really accomplished anything? i see tha fact that more and more US troops are dying each day. today a chopper went down and all 17 US troops died including 8 seals.

 

[PuffnScruff]

so you think that congress is to blame for the war in Iraq?

I hope your right about the U.S not invading Iran, but its bound to occur because Iran wants to build nuclear facilities and isreal does not want them to

and with the U.S on isreals dick a war is bound to result if such a facility is erected

i did not realize that Kerry fuck over your senior like that

i def feel sorry for them

and yes the war on drugs has been a terrible failure, nothing more than a way to fill up the prisons of those who are profiting from the system

i wouldnt blame congress for the war in iraq, they didnt even have a decsion in going i dont think.

a war with iran will most likely happen. not in the next few years, unless they attack us first. but i can see a bigger picture here. as soon as afgan forces are built up, if things can come together in iraq and they get their forces built up, iran could be fucked just because they are straigh in the middle of iraq and afgan.

 

[Prophet G]

Of course this wars nonsense. If u cant realize that then you been severely brainwashed.

 

[Morris]

killing hundreds of thousands in the name of peace, and taking there oil while they are left with a cival war, and one hell of a mess to clean up

in one sentence alone you used an imaginary casualty count, a completely unsubstantiated suggestion regarding oil and complete nonsense about a civil war (do u really know what a civil war entails?)

 

[Morris]

i wouldnt blame congress for the war in iraq, they didnt even have a decsion in going i dont think.

About half a year before the invasion, Congress passed a resolution authorizing Bush to use force if and when he deemed it necessary in Iraq. Without question, Congress certainly gets some of the blame.

 

[PuffnScruff]

yes but bush could have went to war with out congress passing that resolution. a president can go to war for up to 4 months with out getting the approval of congress.

 

[BC_BIGBUDZ420]

in one sentence alone you used an imaginary casualty count, a completely unsubstantiated suggestion regarding oil and complete nonsense about a civil war (do u really know what a civil war entails?)

the civilian death count is allready near 50,000 so it could reach the hundreds before this war is over

if iraq didnt have oil would the U.S be ther today?

no

North Korea is a much bigger threat but they dont have oil so there is no insentive to invade

yet


maybe one day if they strike oil they will get some attention

 

[PuffnScruff]

the numbers are not that high.

 

[Duke]

iraq wasnt solely about oil

 

[Morris]

yes but bush could have went to war with out congress passing that resolution. a president can go to war for up to 4 months with out getting the approval of congress.

Yes, but Bush didn't do that, did he?

And Congress still authorized it, didn't they?

 

[Morris]

the civilian death count is allready near 50,000 so it could reach the hundreds before this war is over

Again, you are pulling a statistic out of thin air. The truth is nobody could ever be certain how many civilians have been killed, how many militants have been killed, how many civilians were militants, how many militants were civilians etc. In all likelihood, the civilian casualty count is less than half of 50,000.

And you are blaming the United States for militant attacks being conducted mostly by non Iraqi foreign fighters who are flooding into Iraq from Syria. The Coalition occupied most of Iraq by the middle of 2003, thus a large majority of civilians killed after that were not killed by Coalition forces.

if iraq didnt have oil would the U.S be ther today?

The Coalition invaded Iraq because Iraq is in the middle of the Middle East and because it could be invaded, as opposed to a country like Iran which we know has chemical weapons. With Iraq, most if not all weapons had been destroyed, but the Coalition was concerned about clandestine WMD operations and secret stockpilings.

North Korea is a much bigger threat but they dont have oil so there is no insentive to invade

North Korea is a much bigger threat. Thus you answered your own question in wondering why the United States doesn't attack them. In addition, the West already has a sphere of influence in that region in the form of Japan.

If Iraq had been or ever is successful, we would have removed a regional, volatile threat and installed a nascent democracy that might motivate citizens of other Middle Eastern countries to reform their governments as well. That was the penultimate reason for the war.

 

[Zero Cool]

If Iraq had been or ever is successful, we would have removed a regional, volatile threat and installed a nascent democracy that might motivate citizens of other Middle Eastern countries to reform their governments as well. That was the penultimate reason for the war.

It's a pity about 90% of the board dosen't realize/accept this.

 

[CalcuoCuchicheo]

It's a pity about 90% of the board dosen't realize/accept this.

It's about you don't see how huge an "if" that is & how the conflict is legally & morally dubious.

 

[BC_BIGBUDZ420]

The Coalition occupied most of Iraq by the middle of 2003, thus a large majority of civilians killed after that were not killed by Coalition forces .

its funny how you accuse me of "pulling statistics out of the air, yet you do the exact same thing in your reply

i doubt that the insurgents are flooding Iraq just to murder Iraqi civilians, the insurgents are more likely there to kill those who are illegally occupying Iraq

The Coalition invaded Iraq because Iraq is in the middle of the Middle East and because it could be invaded, as opposed to a country like Iran which we know has chemical weapons. With Iraq, most if not all weapons had been destroyed, but the Coalition was concerned about clandestine WMD operations and secret stockpilings .

so you admit Iraq was invaded because they could not defend themselves

thats patheitc because if they cant even defend themselves then how could they possibly be a threat to you?

you guys were just hoping that the WMD that you GAVE saddam would still be there, thus an excuse to give the american people while you take there oil

this war is about nothing more that money

plain and simple

and its sad because while haliberton and exxon make billions the american pulic is left to pick up the cost of the war

North Korea is a much bigger threat. Thus you answered your own question in wondering why the United States doesn't attack them. In addition, the West already has a sphere of influence in that region in the form of Japan.

wow im sure your sphere of influence in that region is really going to prevent NK from building nukes


North Korea is a good example why american foreign policy is a joke

you guys give them the capeablilties to make 20+ in 1994, and then you act suprised when they threaten to blow your ass up with them

maybe you guys should stop giving crazy dictators WMD, it dosent seem to be working out too well for you

If Iraq had been or ever is successful, we would have removed a regional, volatile threat and installed a nascent democracy that might motivate citizens of other Middle Eastern countries to reform their governments as well. That was the penultimate reason for the war.

haha try and bring peace and democracy with war and you will destroy what you set out to create

at least your admiting that the Iraq war is a failure, thats the first step in realizing it was a big mistake

the closest thing i can relate what your president has done is like throwing a rock a a hornets nest

you may knock the nest down, but your left with thousands of pissed off bees that want to get revenge

and the middle east is now an even greater breeding ground for terroists, so in a few years this war could prove to be counter productive in the coked up lunitics war against "terror"

 

[Hankaveli]

It's a pity about 90% of the board dosen't realize/accept this.

it's a pitty you think it is Americas Right and duty to shape the world in it's vision.

 

[PuffnScruff]

would anyone you actually live in a country that was run by saddam?
do you not feel that saddam was a threat?
why was he not a threat?
what do think would have been a better way to deal with saddam?

 

[BC_BIGBUDZ420]

would anyone you actually live in a country that was run by saddam?
do you not feel that saddam was a threat?
why was he not a threat?
what do think would have been a better way to deal with saddam?

i think the best way to have dealt with saddam would have been never to supply him with the weapons that you now fear he might use