Vietnam War

#1
I'm doing a report on the Vietnam War and would like some outside input on the media's spin on the war and what they were trying to accomplish. Where they trying to motivate American's by showing them the brighter side of things or to justify the policies that were ever changing during the time period?
 

Freedom Froggy

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#2
fields arnt you in the military or something?

and i thought the media during the war was doing the exact opposite of what you mentioned.. i thought they where there to show the horrors of the war
 

Bigg Limn

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#3
I think they went there to glorify the soldiers, unexpecting of the horrors and grotesque scenes that lay ahead.
 
#4
Limn said:
I think they went there to glorify the soldiers, unexpecting of the horrors and grotesque scenes that lay ahead.
yep, u got dat right :thumb: they waz not expecting that shit 2 happen. my father was in dat war, if u want fieldz i could ask him about the media n shit? although weneva we talk about the war he sumtimez sayz sum pretty messed up shit cauz my "mother" divorced him n he c'z doctorz n shit alot n he'z pretty fucked up in the mental, hez even got a certificate to say hez clinicly insane. 1 of my friendz thought that waz sumthin 2 brag about, but believe me itz not. but yeah i could tell u sum shit he told me if u want?
 

Rukas

Capo Dei Capi
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#5
In short, the media at first glorified and supported the war because their business sponsors and their advertisers supported the war. However when the public became anti war and stopped supporting companies that supported the war, their side of the war changed to retain customers and thus their influence on the media changed and so the media began to show the truth to please the sponsors and viewers.
 
#6
First - yes I am military but that does not mean i was around in the vietnam era!

Second - yes please ask your father if you can about the media and even the war itself.

See I'm doing some research on that bitch Jane Fonda. Did you guys know she actually supported the Vietnam guys? like spitting on OUR soldiers, taking pictures on the very canonns that killed our pilots and stuff like that? I'm finding my self pissed off, but have to focus on the aspect of HOW she was so influencial. The media had to have been pro vietnam to produce a society to support an unpopular war at the time. She went against the grain on the issue by going on the vietnam radio broadcasts to talk to americans so i'd imagine that at the time our media was filitering nothing but PRO WAR / We are doing fine messages- right?
 

Glockmatic

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#7
they went there to report what was going on, they were embedded with the soldiers and reported what they saw. News back then wasn't like the news of today, the pentagon would allow reporters to report on everything; now they can hardly report on things in Iraq.

they use to have video of soldiers who were injured and being operated on, what do we have now? Photo ops of the president shaking hands with the wounded. they use to have video of independant journalists who were embedded with soldiers, now we have only a select few and what gets out to us is heavily edited or spun. Journalists use to have a lot more freedom in war-related news
 

PuffnScruff

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#8
fields316_2000 said:
First - yes I am military but that does not mean i was around in the vietnam era!

Second - yes please ask your father if you can about the media and even the war itself.

See I'm doing some research on that bitch Jane Fonda. Did you guys know she actually supported the Vietnam guys? like spitting on OUR soldiers, taking pictures on the very canonns that killed our pilots and stuff like that? I'm finding my self pissed off, but have to focus on the aspect of HOW she was so influencial. The media had to have been pro vietnam to produce a society to support an unpopular war at the time. She went against the grain on the issue by going on the vietnam radio broadcasts to talk to americans so i'd imagine that at the time our media was filitering nothing but PRO WAR / We are doing fine messages- right?

yeah fonda is a bitch for what she did. did you know that when the other side was escorting her around they took her to a p.o.w. camp with american soldiers? all of the soldiers wrote down their s.s. #'s or their military serial numbers on little pieces of paper and gave them to her when she would go around shaking their hands. that way she could go back to the american base and give them to the right people so their familys would know they were alive. after exiting the camp she gave all those little pieces of paper to the other side. alot of those men were killed after that.
 

PuffnScruff

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#9
Glockmatic said:
they went there to report what was going on, they were embedded with the soldiers and reported what they saw. News back then wasn't like the news of today, the pentagon would allow reporters to report on everything; now they can hardly report on things in Iraq.

they use to have video of soldiers who were injured and being operated on, what do we have now? Photo ops of the president shaking hands with the wounded. they use to have video of independant journalists who were embedded with soldiers, now we have only a select few and what gets out to us is heavily edited or spun. Journalists use to have a lot more freedom in war-related news
that has nothing to do with the govt.

journalists used to have fair editors and people at the top of the chain. now its people that only care about ratings and money. people that do not work for the govt. if reporting is not fair right now its not because of the pentagon, its because of the media companies.
 

Duke

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Staff member
#10
PuffnScruff said:
yeah fonda is a bitch for what she did. did you know that when the other side was escorting her around they took her to a p.o.w. camp with american soldiers? all of the soldiers wrote down their s.s. #'s or their military serial numbers on little pieces of paper and gave them to her when she would go around shaking their hands. that way she could go back to the american base and give them to the right people so their familys would know they were alive. after exiting the camp she gave all those little pieces of paper to the other side. alot of those men were killed after that.
Actually, no. The paper parts is an urban myth. She did however, denounce American POW's as liars and hypocrites upon their return when they spoke about the way they were treated. (info from snopes.com)

I, as a Dutchman, believe that the Vietnam war was an incredibly stupid war for the Americans to get engaged in and i'd blame the politicians. But ms. Fonda apparently went a step beyond that and felt the need to spit on regular servicemen and her countrymen.

Quite distasteful, really...
 

Bigg Limn

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#11
Yeah, I mean protesting the Vietnam war is one thing. But going there and disrespecting our soldiers like that? It aint their fault they were there - 4 the most part they didnt wanna go.

My grandpa was in that shit, he almost got sent back a 2nd time - but luckily he retired be4 that. They were tryna promote him be4 he retired, which woulda meant he woulda had 2 stay in for another 2yrs. He said if he went back there again he wasn't gunna make it home.
 
#12
I saw red when I read that she actually spit on our returning vets. there is nothing lower than what she did..I'm happy ol boy spit tabacco juice in her face in april. I want to send him a letter.
 

PuffnScruff

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#13
sean penn put him self in the same boat with fonda when he went over to iraq and sat with sadaam. only to come back home to alot of pissed of people and to admit to them that he was used by sadaam. then he did it again this past year by going to iran. it's sad to walk around not knowing your a big tool.
 

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