Vietnam war based on a lie
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This is The "Bay of Tonkin" incident right.It is true that the U.S staged the whole incident.Soldiers on the Maddox have said that the incident was over exagerated and that they were firing at nothing.The "Turner Joy" destroyer was sent to assist the Maddox,and was supposedly involved in the second "attack".Their was no damgae or no casualties on either ship.The squadron commander James Stockdale wrote in his book that "Our Destroyers were shooting at phantom targets-Nothing there but black water and American fire power".Extremely poor weather conditions was said to have made the crew think they were under attack.
Apparently before Kennedy was assasinated,he had planned on withdrawing 16,000 U.S troops who were only acting as advisors to the Southern Vietnamese.When Johnson became president,instead of withdrawing troops he sent more out.The Bay Of Tonkin incident was the pretext for this and U.S troops were now involved in full scale combat against the Northern Vietnamese Vietcong.
The U.S government are a disgrace as they were when they illegally bombed Cambodia killing 750,000 people.They even backed Pol Pot's murderous Khmer Rouge regime after Viertnam had invaded Cambodia and overthrown the regime.And then their is the whole Iran-Contra scandel not to mention the war in Iraq and the "Weapons of Mass Destruction"
58,000 US Soldiers and 1.25 million Vietnames soldiers from both sides were killed as a result of the war in Vietnam.A war which America had no need to get involved in.
Apparently before Kennedy was assasinated,he had planned on withdrawing 16,000 U.S troops who were only acting as advisors to the Southern Vietnamese.When Johnson became president,instead of withdrawing troops he sent more out.The Bay Of Tonkin incident was the pretext for this and U.S troops were now involved in full scale combat against the Northern Vietnamese Vietcong.
The U.S government are a disgrace as they were when they illegally bombed Cambodia killing 750,000 people.They even backed Pol Pot's murderous Khmer Rouge regime after Viertnam had invaded Cambodia and overthrown the regime.And then their is the whole Iran-Contra scandel not to mention the war in Iraq and the "Weapons of Mass Destruction"
58,000 US Soldiers and 1.25 million Vietnames soldiers from both sides were killed as a result of the war in Vietnam.A war which America had no need to get involved in.
I know the first incident was real.but it was exxagerated and the second incident never occured.
As i said,crew on the Turner Joy have said that the poor weather conditions were messing with their radars and made it seem as if the ship was under attack.Crew members started to panic.That may explain the second incident.America had no need to get involcved anyway.They stick their noses in everywhere.
As i said,crew on the Turner Joy have said that the poor weather conditions were messing with their radars and made it seem as if the ship was under attack.Crew members started to panic.That may explain the second incident.America had no need to get involcved anyway.They stick their noses in everywhere.
Kennedy was heavily involved in the escalation of Vietnam, unless you're willing to ignore the fact that he sanctioned the assassination of South Vietnam's President Diem.
(For future reference, it was the Gulf of Tonkin, not the Bay of Tonkin.)
Except for the fact that we had signed a mutual defense pact with South Vietnam and other Southeast Asian countries against the aggression and advancement of communism, as part of the Korean War Armistice.
We didn't go sticking our nose where it didn't belong. The South Vietnamese badly wanted us there. Whether it was in our best interest to be there is obviously worthy of debate, but we weren't just there for shits and giggles and commie killing fun.
(For future reference, it was the Gulf of Tonkin, not the Bay of Tonkin.)
Except for the fact that we had signed a mutual defense pact with South Vietnam and other Southeast Asian countries against the aggression and advancement of communism, as part of the Korean War Armistice.
We didn't go sticking our nose where it didn't belong. The South Vietnamese badly wanted us there. Whether it was in our best interest to be there is obviously worthy of debate, but we weren't just there for shits and giggles and commie killing fun.
we watched this film in politics class and it was a bunch of senators talking shit about the US government. So theyre like: "Ever since the end of WWII, the US and the corperations who build guns, tanks, planes, ships, bullets etc etc make trillions. So if they make that much money, you better expect more and more bullshit wars to come up." Cheney and top government people are running the country...Bush is just an image, a friendly face.
They "blamed" or "gave credit" (whichever u like best) to the media, saying that their images made the vietnam war stop. And theyre like: ever wonder why the media isnt allowed in the battle fronts?
Didnt know what to think after that lecture. Pieces fit.
They "blamed" or "gave credit" (whichever u like best) to the media, saying that their images made the vietnam war stop. And theyre like: ever wonder why the media isnt allowed in the battle fronts?
Didnt know what to think after that lecture. Pieces fit.
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