Why does the United States of Amerikkka continue to boss middle eastern countries? We claimed Iraq had WMD right? Which they didnt. We invaded for all the wrong reasons and were supposably liberating the people from Saddam's reign of terror. Today I'm watching Fox News & they talking bout how the U.S. is warning Iran to discontinue any works of nuclear bombs. I dont know if any resolutions were signed or assigned... but why are we threathening every middle eastern country? Why arn't we invading North Korea? They got the bombs and they got a lunatic dictator. Why arn't we threathening Russia? Why arn't we telling Israel to disarm? I'll tell you why. Cause we want all the middle eastern oil fields and we wanna convert all the Islam based countries into democracies so we can brainwash them slowly into American culture and into our realm of control. It's real obvious this is a complete war against religion. No were not helping 3rd world countries upgrade.. c'mon now. I just think it's time for a country such as Iran to point a couple nukes at us and say "lay the fuck off before i end your reign of idiocy". And I will stand and point and laugh the day I see that on t.v. Someones gotta stand up and tell the United States to shut the fuck up, cuz they stickn there nose in everythin, tryin to control it.
United States - Big Bad Boss
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That's a passionate plea if I ever heard one. The thing that shits me is with what authority does the US pertain to have in regards to nuclear proliferation? I mean, of course they have the largest arsenal, but this does allow the self-proclaimation of "keeper of the faith." We have the IAEA, the UN and the NPT as international forces to prevent and deal with proliferation. It is not the responsibility of the US to determine and indeed, threaten, states in regards to nuclear policy.
I don't necessarily believe it is a war against religion - I believe you had it right when you said it was about regime change, and thus increasing the "realm of control." And it is this hostile and aggressive foreign policy that the US has embarked on which generates defensive security measures in other states, such as NK and Iran....the situation is circular and senseless and if this is the peaceful, secure and liberated world that our governments promised, I think I would have happily lived in the insecurity of before. Hey, the day when the tables turn, I'll be laughing too.
I don't necessarily believe it is a war against religion - I believe you had it right when you said it was about regime change, and thus increasing the "realm of control." And it is this hostile and aggressive foreign policy that the US has embarked on which generates defensive security measures in other states, such as NK and Iran....the situation is circular and senseless and if this is the peaceful, secure and liberated world that our governments promised, I think I would have happily lived in the insecurity of before. Hey, the day when the tables turn, I'll be laughing too.
Were being the operative word. Are there any real reasons to suggest that their weapons programs were continuing? Afterall, did they not have weapons inspectors, were they not under the watch of the IAEA? Were they not signatories to the NPT? In any case, you miss my main point - it is not for the US to unilaterally take control of such issues.
And foreign policy in the US has always been aggressive, but now it is increasingly direct in terms of its hostility towards such states, hence why they are at the forefront. It is because of this aggression that I believe these countries react using defensive mechanisms, namely considering the prospects of going nuclear. And I certainly believe it is defensive, for deterrence purposes, not for offensive measures, but to assuage the insecurity generated by the power imbalance.
And foreign policy in the US has always been aggressive, but now it is increasingly direct in terms of its hostility towards such states, hence why they are at the forefront. It is because of this aggression that I believe these countries react using defensive mechanisms, namely considering the prospects of going nuclear. And I certainly believe it is defensive, for deterrence purposes, not for offensive measures, but to assuage the insecurity generated by the power imbalance.
Pakistan and India acquired nukes over the past couple decades, not to mention it was a Pakistani scientist who disclosed information to NK and to Iran, yet Musharraf has managed to get him off the hook.
And when u say WMD what exactly are u talking about? A nuclear warhead is useless without ballistic capabilites and the ranges of some are limited to a few hundred miles.
The IAEA is able to detect radiation from warheads from space, so trying to smuggle a warhead by truck to the target would also be useless. The only real option would be to use a plane, however with the sophisticated radar and tracking technologies of today this would also be rendered useless as neither Iran nor NK have stealth planes or planes that can fligh at really high altitudes.
And when u say WMD what exactly are u talking about? A nuclear warhead is useless without ballistic capabilites and the ranges of some are limited to a few hundred miles.
The IAEA is able to detect radiation from warheads from space, so trying to smuggle a warhead by truck to the target would also be useless. The only real option would be to use a plane, however with the sophisticated radar and tracking technologies of today this would also be rendered useless as neither Iran nor NK have stealth planes or planes that can fligh at really high altitudes.
This is basically what I've been saying for a long time.
America are hypocrites.
They want to have nuclear weapons but no-one else can have them (Cuba/Soviet Union/Turkey attitude still in effect)
They want to rid the world of brutal regimes & yet they leave many countries to their own devices just because they are allies & trade with each other.
They say they want to get rid of nuclear threats, but are too scared to go after North Korea.
They talk, with fear, of what goes on behind 'Iron Curtains' such as North Korea, & yet America have Guantanamo Bay - a place that is so secretive it wouldn't be out of place in the Soviet Union in the 60s.
They want to get involved in every other country's affairs, but won't let anyone get involved in theirs.
They want to govern the world, but when the war is over & they've taken what they wanted, they up sticks & leave, leaving the people of that nation to suffer the consequences.
They claim to be free, & yet attempt to, & succeed, in suppressing the media.
I'm pleased Prophet G & Amara said they'd be glad when the tide turns because I've said this before, & been hated on for it. Nie to know I ain't alone.
America are hypocrites.
They want to have nuclear weapons but no-one else can have them (Cuba/Soviet Union/Turkey attitude still in effect)
They want to rid the world of brutal regimes & yet they leave many countries to their own devices just because they are allies & trade with each other.
They say they want to get rid of nuclear threats, but are too scared to go after North Korea.
They talk, with fear, of what goes on behind 'Iron Curtains' such as North Korea, & yet America have Guantanamo Bay - a place that is so secretive it wouldn't be out of place in the Soviet Union in the 60s.
They want to get involved in every other country's affairs, but won't let anyone get involved in theirs.
They want to govern the world, but when the war is over & they've taken what they wanted, they up sticks & leave, leaving the people of that nation to suffer the consequences.
They claim to be free, & yet attempt to, & succeed, in suppressing the media.
I'm pleased Prophet G & Amara said they'd be glad when the tide turns because I've said this before, & been hated on for it. Nie to know I ain't alone.
Listen, America claims that it can have WMD's but other countries can't. Then they say that they are 'respopnsible' with the weapons and are using it for secuirty of 'free' nations. Well countries the world over don't want to be living in a position where America has all the control and they have to live by Americas rules adn if they don't like it, they get screwed over by Americas military muscle.
Americans seem to have a skewed perspective of the world. They think they are the center of it and can boss around others.
If America are kings of anything, it is hypocrisy. The Pakistanis are the one country who are continually fucked over by Americas threat of economic sanctions, just because they want to acquire military technology to be able to keep India at bay. And India meanwhile are buying the latest military technology from the US (hypocrisy or what). Why dont the US simply stop selling to India aswell then the Pakistanis wouldn't need to go around trying to buy from Sweden, France, Russia, China. And these countries are also threatned with economic sanctions if the sell to Pakistan. Whilst America seems to be the only country allowed to sell to India (pakistans problem).
Side Note:
During the Vietnam war (1967 or 57
)there was a vote to decide the future government of Vietnam. There was a 87% turnout and there was very little attacks and disruption from the VietCong, many analysts and government officials toasted the elections as a success and considered 'job done' and we all know what happened then...
Americans seem to have a skewed perspective of the world. They think they are the center of it and can boss around others.
If America are kings of anything, it is hypocrisy. The Pakistanis are the one country who are continually fucked over by Americas threat of economic sanctions, just because they want to acquire military technology to be able to keep India at bay. And India meanwhile are buying the latest military technology from the US (hypocrisy or what). Why dont the US simply stop selling to India aswell then the Pakistanis wouldn't need to go around trying to buy from Sweden, France, Russia, China. And these countries are also threatned with economic sanctions if the sell to Pakistan. Whilst America seems to be the only country allowed to sell to India (pakistans problem).
Side Note:
During the Vietnam war (1967 or 57
)there was a vote to decide the future government of Vietnam. There was a 87% turnout and there was very little attacks and disruption from the VietCong, many analysts and government officials toasted the elections as a success and considered 'job done' and we all know what happened then...Agreed.The problem is, we're being run by US puppets and sad to say, we're turning slowly into the people they want us to be.And what's more fucked up is that we dont produce, instead we're dependant, specially on them.
Like I remember this guy here who got jauled around 3 weeks ago cause he told people to boycott US products and that the US is our enemy, and the King himself asked for him to be arrested claiming that "this kind of behaviour is not accepted.I'm not going to allow anyone to speak ill of our main supporters".
Pathetic.
Like I remember this guy here who got jauled around 3 weeks ago cause he told people to boycott US products and that the US is our enemy, and the King himself asked for him to be arrested claiming that "this kind of behaviour is not accepted.I'm not going to allow anyone to speak ill of our main supporters".
Pathetic.
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If America are kings of anything, it is hypocrisy. The Pakistanis are the one country who are continually fucked over by Americas threat of economic sanctions, just because they want to acquire military technology to be able to keep India at bay. And India meanwhile are buying the latest military technology from the US (hypocrisy or what). Why dont the US simply stop selling to India aswell then the Pakistanis wouldn't need to go around trying to buy from Sweden, France, Russia, China. And these countries are also threatned with economic sanctions if the sell to Pakistan. Whilst America seems to be the only country allowed to sell to India (pakistans problem).
nah man this one you are wrong on. india needs to have these technologies to fight the agressive militants of pakistan. until the bush administration put pressure on president busharaf
pakistani militants constantly attacked india. for example in kashmir if you are from india you are unable to buy land on the INDIAN side hence kasmir is 99% muslim. so when kasmir asks to be seperated from india its obvious that after a short while they will simply join pakistan meaning india loses in the long term. Two months after 9/11 kashmir militants attacked india's houses of parliment. after that point india was ready to nuke the fuck out of pakistan but america came and stuck their noses in meaning our hands were tied. btw imagine if someone had commited a similar attack on usa- we would have to hear about it over and over like 9/11. plus there are alot of al quaida in pakistan. shit even bin laden has been spoted there
If America are kings of anything, it is hypocrisy. The Pakistanis are the one country who are continually fucked over by Americas threat of economic sanctions, just because they want to acquire military technology to be able to keep India at bay. And India meanwhile are buying the latest military technology from the US (hypocrisy or what). Why dont the US simply stop selling to India aswell then the Pakistanis wouldn't need to go around trying to buy from Sweden, France, Russia, China. And these countries are also threatned with economic sanctions if the sell to Pakistan. Whilst America seems to be the only country allowed to sell to India (pakistans problem).
nah man this one you are wrong on. india needs to have these technologies to fight the agressive militants of pakistan. until the bush administration put pressure on president busharaf
pakistani militants constantly attacked india. for example in kashmir if you are from india you are unable to buy land on the INDIAN side hence kasmir is 99% muslim. so when kasmir asks to be seperated from india its obvious that after a short while they will simply join pakistan meaning india loses in the long term. Two months after 9/11 kashmir militants attacked india's houses of parliment. after that point india was ready to nuke the fuck out of pakistan but america came and stuck their noses in meaning our hands were tied. btw imagine if someone had commited a similar attack on usa- we would have to hear about it over and over like 9/11. plus there are alot of al quaida in pakistan. shit even bin laden has been spoted there
no country will harm america
because america has already maken all other countries its slave....
u know, when europe was in a mess after WW2... now europe's economy is dependable on that of USA. same with the wars in south america - they are dependable on the US.
same with all the dictators in the arab / african countries , which mostly the US installed there themselves; every fukking country has to take orders from America
some countries are just better in making conditions or are being smarter in the way they handle the relationship as others.
for example, i think the US is more mad at france than at iran, cuz france still thinks its some kind of world-power that does what it wants too... annnnd they oppose US sometimes- not in reality though. france needs US as much as every other country.
aint things ever gonna change
because america has already maken all other countries its slave....
u know, when europe was in a mess after WW2... now europe's economy is dependable on that of USA. same with the wars in south america - they are dependable on the US.
same with all the dictators in the arab / african countries , which mostly the US installed there themselves; every fukking country has to take orders from America
some countries are just better in making conditions or are being smarter in the way they handle the relationship as others.
for example, i think the US is more mad at france than at iran, cuz france still thinks its some kind of world-power that does what it wants too... annnnd they oppose US sometimes- not in reality though. france needs US as much as every other country.
aint things ever gonna change
feichen said:
no country will harm america
because america has already maken all other countries its slave....
u know, when europe was in a mess after WW2... now europe's economy is dependable on that of USA. same with the wars in south america - they are dependable on the US.
same with all the dictators in the arab / african countries , which mostly the US installed there themselves; every fukking country has to take orders from America
some countries are just better in making conditions or are being smarter in the way they handle the relationship as others.
for example, i think the US is more mad at france than at iran, cuz france still thinks its some kind of world-power that does what it wants too... annnnd they oppose US sometimes- not in reality though. france needs US as much as every other country.
aint things ever gonna change
because america has already maken all other countries its slave....
u know, when europe was in a mess after WW2... now europe's economy is dependable on that of USA. same with the wars in south america - they are dependable on the US.
same with all the dictators in the arab / african countries , which mostly the US installed there themselves; every fukking country has to take orders from America
some countries are just better in making conditions or are being smarter in the way they handle the relationship as others.
for example, i think the US is more mad at france than at iran, cuz france still thinks its some kind of world-power that does what it wants too... annnnd they oppose US sometimes- not in reality though. france needs US as much as every other country.
aint things ever gonna change
and vice versa
maybe so and the idea of that was that "peace" will be achieved.
but what have we seen so far? europe& america just join together to exploit 3rd world countries.... there always gotta be one who suffers in a capilastic enviroment.
so if china, rusia, north korea, vietnam and cuba plant dudes on mars , maybe we can try out a different system there (without dictatorship)
but what have we seen so far? europe& america just join together to exploit 3rd world countries.... there always gotta be one who suffers in a capilastic enviroment.
so if china, rusia, north korea, vietnam and cuba plant dudes on mars , maybe we can try out a different system there (without dictatorship)
because they think that the whole world must think like them fuckers. For example here in Canada the debate about same sex marriage is a heated debate between the U.S (though they are not part of our country) because the U.S wants Canada to say no to same sex marriage because that's the way they see things, which is really stupid.
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