Underated Player
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Well for one, he's in a small market town that doesn't ever win shit, so apparently it's just statistics. Second, wasn't he mentioned in the whole steroids scandal shit? If he wins a ring before he retires, he'll get his credit. Cal Ripken Jr. had to break a record before he was really nationally respected. That's what it takes from a small market. If he gets a ring or a sole record, he'll get more dap.
^ I like those lists, but Pete Rose isn't overrated - he's overhyped. People don't exaggerate how good he was, but you hear about him more than you should because of the gambling thing. The extra attention is unrelated to baseball.
Derek Jeter is the most overrated player in the game right now by the way.
And Palmeiro isn't underrated, he's unsung. Anyone who talks about him says he's a first ballot hall of famer. How is he being underrated then?
Derek Jeter is the most overrated player in the game right now by the way.
And Palmeiro isn't underrated, he's unsung. Anyone who talks about him says he's a first ballot hall of famer. How is he being underrated then?
his career was what, 26 years long?
his ERA+ of 112 for his career is absolutely pathetic compared to the other all-time greats
his career high ERA+ was in a season where he only played 21 games. his career high ERA+ in a full season is 142, a piss-poor peak number compared to others
his career win % is only .526, thats not very great. considering hes been on some good teams over the years, that should be better.
dont get me started on how he compares to the likes of Walter Johnson, Roger Clemens, or even a less popular star like Tom Seaver.
It doesnt matter how many strikeouts you get if you still lose 16 games that same year
edit: i forgot to mention his lack of a Cy Young award despite 27 years of pitching
his ERA+ of 112 for his career is absolutely pathetic compared to the other all-time greats
his career high ERA+ was in a season where he only played 21 games. his career high ERA+ in a full season is 142, a piss-poor peak number compared to others
his career win % is only .526, thats not very great. considering hes been on some good teams over the years, that should be better.
dont get me started on how he compares to the likes of Walter Johnson, Roger Clemens, or even a less popular star like Tom Seaver.
It doesnt matter how many strikeouts you get if you still lose 16 games that same year
edit: i forgot to mention his lack of a Cy Young award despite 27 years of pitching
Nolan Ryan Statistics
Career WHIP - 1.2473 (Not even top 100 among pitchers with a minimum of 1,000 IP, 3,000 PA, and 100 decisions... #100 is Al Spalding with 1.1855, still much better than Ryan... many view WHIP as the most important statistic because it shows the ability of the pitcher to get outs and keep runners off the bases)
Strikeout to Walk Ratio - 2.044 (Good, but again not great, and certainly not top notch. Notable pitchers ahead of him: Pedro Astacio, Glendon Rusch, Rheal Cormier, Eric Milton, Matt Morris, Kevin Millwood, Jose Lima)
Also, he is nowhere to be found in the top ranks of the adjusted ERA+, yet other greats such as Pedro Martinez, Lefty Grove, Walter Johnson, Joe Wood, Randy Johnson, Roger Clemens, Greg Maddux, Cy Young, Christy Matthewson, Whitey Ford, Sandy Koufax, and Curt Schilling are all near the top.
Career WHIP - 1.2473 (Not even top 100 among pitchers with a minimum of 1,000 IP, 3,000 PA, and 100 decisions... #100 is Al Spalding with 1.1855, still much better than Ryan... many view WHIP as the most important statistic because it shows the ability of the pitcher to get outs and keep runners off the bases)
Strikeout to Walk Ratio - 2.044 (Good, but again not great, and certainly not top notch. Notable pitchers ahead of him: Pedro Astacio, Glendon Rusch, Rheal Cormier, Eric Milton, Matt Morris, Kevin Millwood, Jose Lima)
Also, he is nowhere to be found in the top ranks of the adjusted ERA+, yet other greats such as Pedro Martinez, Lefty Grove, Walter Johnson, Joe Wood, Randy Johnson, Roger Clemens, Greg Maddux, Cy Young, Christy Matthewson, Whitey Ford, Sandy Koufax, and Curt Schilling are all near the top.
Derek Jeter, TERRIBLY OVERRATED. That one play where he was running for the ball and caught it going face first into the stands, was such an overrated play it was ridiculous. Watch Sportcenter top 10 plays and you'll see people doing that every week. there are way better plays that don't get the same recognition.
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