Two new retroviruses - the type of virus which causes AIDS - have jumped from primate

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Two new retroviruses - the type of virus which causes AIDS - have jumped from primates to humans, a new study reveals.

The study of blood samples from nearly a thousand bushmeat hunters or handlers in Cameroon showed that at least six viruses had crossed from monkeys to the people who were exposed to freshly caught bushmeat. And two of these viruses have never been seen before in humans.

The newly discovered human T-cell lymphotropic virus 3 (HTLV-3) and HTLV-4 are closely related to the known viruses, HTLV-1 and HTLV-2. These are implicated in cancers like leukaemia and can cause inflammatory or neurological diseases.

Retroviruses such as HTLV or HIV insert their genetic material into a host cell's DNA. The emergence of HIV is widely blamed on a primate retrovirus, SIV, jumping to humans. Previously, it was thought that the emergence of these viruses was limited by the rarity of successful cross-species transmission.

But the identification of two entirely new human retroviruses from one study, along with a previous discovery by the same group that simian foamy viruses can jump from monkeys to humans, may be ominous.

No fluke
"What's increasingly clear is that the hunting and butchering of non-human primates is associated with the transmission of retroviruses to humans," says Nathan Wolfe, at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health in Baltimore, US, who led the study.

He says the new results suggest the team's previous find of simian foamy viruses in bushmeat hunters was "not just a fluke". In the blood-screening study, 13 out of 930 people were found to be infected with simian retroviruses, and two with the new human strains.

The new findings are no surprise, agrees Martine Peeters at the retrovirus laboratory of the Institute of Research for Development in Montpelier, France. She and her colleagues, along with other groups, had described simian TLV-3 in primates in Cameroon in 2004 so the discovery of a human equivalent is not unexpected. Now scientists will look for the simian equivalent of HTLV-4.

HTLV-1 and -2 are not very pathogenic says Peeters, but about 1% of those infected may go on to develop leukaemia.

Global distribution
Wolfe points out that HTLV-1 and 2 are now global viruses, infecting 22 million worldwide. "This finding is in a class of disease known to have global distribution and known to cause disease. It's not just a few obscure viruses crossing over and staying only in hunters," he told New Scientist.

He says the next issue to tackle is whether these new retroviruses reach a "dead end" in hunters, or are capable of human-to-human transmission.

While HTLV-3 and HTLV-4 are not a serious threat to global health, Peeters warns that "it shows that there is still retroviral transmission from primates to humans, so maybe one day another SIV could become another HIV".

HIV-2 is believed to have jumped from mangabey monkeys and HIV-1 from chimpanzees. A new HIV could potentially jump from another species, she cautions.

The work was presented at a retrovirus conference in Boston, US, on Friday.

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7073
 
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Glockmatic said:
or eating them!
shit like this makes me think that Nature is like fighting back, simular to Mad Cow Disease. Mad cow comes from Cows eating Cow meat or other animals eating there own kind, even Human Canibals have shown the same Brain deformations as found in Mad Cow cases.

very interesting.
 

Duke

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Harry_potter said:
shit like this makes me think that Nature is like fighting back, simular to Mad Cow Disease. Mad cow comes from Cows eating Cow meat or other animals eating there own kind, even Human Canibals have shown the same Brain deformations as found in Mad Cow cases.

very interesting.
yeah indeed, indegenous people in the rainforest and the indonesian archipelago have demonstrated such deformities. all persons afflicted by it were former cannibals. the tribes have practically stopped practising cannibalism but the elder members, who have eaten humans in the past, are the ones who are sick because of it.
 
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Harry_potter said:
shit like this makes me think that Nature is like fighting back, simular to Mad Cow Disease. Mad cow comes from Cows eating Cow meat or other animals eating there own kind, even Human Canibals have shown the same Brain deformations as found in Mad Cow cases.

very interesting.
yep, thats true. I've also heard and seen people afflicted with creuz felt jacobs disease (spelling :p ) it's recorded in the guinees book of records as the newest disease discovered. But that was 3-4 years ago.

Secondly, the whole contamination from monkeys is an unfounded theory.
 
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ken said:
yep, thats true. I've also heard and seen people afflicted with creuz felt jacobs disease (spelling :p ) it's recorded in the guinees book of records as the newest disease discovered. But that was 3-4 years ago.

Secondly, the whole contamination from monkeys is an unfounded theory.
:confused: Creuz Felt Jacobs Disease?
 
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its the proper name for 'mad cow disease'. Jacob isn't pronounced jay-cub. but ya-cobs.
it is also known as motor-neurons disease(or something like that). its a brain disorder.
 

The.Menace

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ken said:
its the proper name for 'mad cow disease'. Jacob isn't pronounced jay-cub. but ya-cobs.
it is also known as motor-neurons disease(or something like that). its a brain disorder.
that is wrong. mad cow disease is not the same as Jacob, it's just similar and we believe that there is a conection between those two. Kreuzfeld Jacob is a human disease, "mad cow" a cow disease. But no cow ever got Kreuzfeld Jacob and the otehr way around, humans don't get a "mad cow disease".....

P.S: Note both of these disease have nothing to do with Retroviruses!!!!
 
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People who consume cows which had 'mad cows disease' become infected with 'kreuz feld jacobs' disease. Kreuz felt jacobs disease is the proper name for the human equivalent of mad cows disease. See the connection?
Besides, 'mad cow disease' is just a fashion word made the media, the real name is BSC (Bovine Spongiform Encep..... :confused: ). BSC and KFJ diseases are the same brain disorders termed differently becasue of the way in which they attack the brains of the different species. (humans and bovine in this case).
the REASON I say that both the two diseases are the same thing is becasue the VIRUS is the same one. However in animals it casues severe mental retardation. Whereas in humans it causes detirioration of the mental state. Two say that the two diseases are DIFFERENT would be technically correct and would be a scientists perfection. but they're casued by the same virus and just attacks different proteins. That's why many people inter-change the two as the same thing.

Nobody said that this has anything to do with retroviruses, where did you get that one from. We were talking aboutcannabilism and the side-affects associated with cannabilism.
 

Duke

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The two diseases are certainly related anwyay. If you eat "mad cow meat" you get the human equivalent of the disease.
 
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What causes BSE?


The exact cause of BSE is not known but it is generally accepted by the scientific community that infectious forms of a type of protein, prions, normally found in animals cause BSE
A variant form of CJD (vCJD) is believed to be caused by eating contaminated beef products from BSE-affected cattle
 

The.Menace

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ken said:
People who consume cows which had 'mad cows disease' become infected with 'kreuz feld jacobs' disease. Kreuz felt jacobs disease is the proper name for the human equivalent of mad cows disease. See the connection?
Besides, 'mad cow disease' is just a fashion word made the media, the real name is BSC (Bovine Spongiform Encep..... :confused: ). BSC and KFJ diseases are the same brain disorders termed differently becasue of the way in which they attack the brains of the different species. (humans and bovine in this case).
the REASON I say that both the two diseases are the same thing is becasue the VIRUS is the same one. However in animals it casues severe mental retardation. Whereas in humans it causes detirioration of the mental state. Two say that the two diseases are DIFFERENT would be technically correct and would be a scientists perfection. but they're casued by the same virus and just attacks different proteins. That's why many people inter-change the two as the same thing.

Nobody said that this has anything to do with retroviruses, where did you get that one from. We were talking aboutcannabilism and the side-affects associated with cannabilism.
Of course the two are connected but the are not the same, that is all I said. And no, BSE is not cause by a Virus ken.....huge huge huge difference between prions and a virus.
 

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