The power of Dreams

Rukas

Capo Dei Capi
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#1
Heres something slightly different inspired by the Angel Light Laser thread: http://www.2pacboard.com/forum/thread125021.html

The guy who invented the Angel Light that can see through walls, kill things, this and that, he said the idea came to him in a recurring dream. He said all his ideas come to him in dreams.

Throughout the ages, people have recieved messages through dreams. From prophets, to psycics, to inventors.

This thing that he made, is amazing, has no presedent. he had no plans, no drawings of it what so ever. He just dreamt it, then built it, turned it on and it worked.

What do you guys think, an idea from his subconsious? But how can the subconsious think of things that are at that stage "impossible." How can it just have thought up this technology he made and it worked.

What are dreams? I mean, obviously most dreams are just our brain resting or copeing with things, this we know. But is it also possible for our dreams like this guys to be something more? A communication from a higher power? Or our subconsious accessing knowledge long since lost? Or perhaps when we dream we use another part of our brain, making us smarter, an ability which we once had but lost?

Or maybe Ive been stuck at work too long... Heh heh.
 
#2
Ruk great thread. I had a thread about my lucid dreaming a few days ago in thugz mansion. Dreams are not straight forward. Theres hidden meanings in all of them, at least i feel. My dreams will be filled with such random objects that I will write them down and google them. Its amazing to find out how these symbols within your dreams relate directly to your emotional and overall well being..

I think dreams are more than just your brain entertaining you while you sleep. I feel or would like to believe they contain messages and can help you understand yourself better.

I like the 6th sense because they emphasized that those who have past away in your life are able to talk to you again through dreams. I guess it makes me feel comforted and look forward to dreaming. Bein that I have very lucid dreams, I am also able to know i am in dream while dreaming and it provides me with an outlet to do things that secretly I always have wanted to or things that I regret (sometimes even forgotten by me) I get to do over..Although their not real, it gives you this wierd feeling like you have a kinda closure
 
#3
I think i posted something about my recurring dream of building a space craft that can carry humans and can travel faster than speed of light, i have been having it for many years now. I dont know what it means, maybe I want to escape from my grubby life and just warp outta it, or maybe it means i should build it and switch it on to see if it works.

Dreams are very mysterious and I think the reason why people have trouble in finidng one difinitive answer in explaining why we dream in the first place, i think there are probably more than one function of dreams and therefore different reasons.

I do believe that we can learn from what we dream and they do play an important part in a persons life, however we may not always like what our dreams tell us.
 
#4
I believe dreams for one give u hints for ur future. For example, everytime my mom sees her dad in her dream, she wakes up and we get a call someone passed away. And its not like a 1/10 possibility, its always been like this. Doesnt freak me out, cuz im use to it. I really dont think dreams are jus images and shit the brain makes up cuz ur asleep. Your asleep, eyes shut, not thinking.. just turned off. How can u possibily think while ur dead asleep. Doesnt seem right. I believe some dreams u get arnt direct, but symbolic of what will happen to ya.
 
#5
i wanna comment more on this in depth later on but im just gunna say something real quick. i was writing a paper for school one nite, a term paper. it took me about 7 or 8 hours to do and that is all that was on my mind, my brain was completely encompassed with that paper becuase i wanted to get an A. that same night i went to sleep still thinking about my paper, and in my dream i thought of an idea.. something really substancial to add in my paper. i actually woke myself up earlier in the day before class and changed my paper around adding in my idea.
my point is that when your mind is encompassed with thought, trying to develope ideas going over them repetedly in your head, you can expect it to be part of your subconsious as well. just was when something bothering you emotionally is part of your subconsious. do you not remember a time when something that was eating at your mind the whole day came back to haunt you in your dreams? i also remember having had dreams of making up with friends after getting into big fights with them. i do however agree that dreams retain more meaning than is understood to us at this time. but i argue that some dreams can be brought about by yourself and what your mind is thinking subconsiously.... even if your not thinking at all
 

The.Menace

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Staff member
#6
What do you guys think, an idea from his subconsious
Yeah, I do believe that just many thins that are in our way when we are awake aren't there in our dreams, sometimes at least. So we see cleared and can have this huge ideas whatsoever. U just feel, see, think different.....u let the subconsious speak a lil more u know and I think this is where it comes from.....

but of course all this started with "I believe" - hence, I dunno.....and I guess noone does.
 

Bina

New Member
#7
I study psychology and there's a few different theories about dreaming. However, none of them have been proved to be 100% correct. Freud states that our unconscious thoughts that have been repressed over time and when we dream, these repressed thoughts are bought to the surface. (Wish fulfillment prophecy)

Secondly, can't remember which theorist it was, but said that we dream to sort out all the information that has been processed (or not processed) during the day. Dreaming allows us to solve these problems that we were unable to solve while conscious. I suppose this explains mrmakaveli7's dreaming process.

The guy that built the Angel Light laser must have had some kind of knowledge about what he was doing, ie. using the colour lasers and the gases- u can't just come up with an idea like that one day without any knowledge of technology in that instance.

Another theory is the Activation-synthesis theory- which states that dreams are a product of random activity in the brain during sleep, as different parts of the brain stimulate different thoughts, this theory accounts for the typical illogical dream- however, does not account for lucid dreaming.

Not too sure about those who have dreams about prophecies- psychology can't explain that one yet- and neither can i!!

Oh yea, and dreams occured during REM sleep (RAPID EYE MOVEMENT), or at least it was dreaming during this time that could be reported back - study by Dement and Kleitman. Its an EEG that is used to see which parts of the brain are active while dreaming.
 
#8
Bina said:
I study psychology and there's a few different theories about dreaming. However, none of them have been proved to be 100% correct. Freud states that our unconscious thoughts that have been repressed over time and when we dream, these repressed thoughts are bought to the surface. (Wish fulfillment prophecy)

Secondly, can't remember which theorist it was, but said that we dream to sort out all the information that has been processed (or not processed) during the day. Dreaming allows us to solve these problems that we were unable to solve while conscious. I suppose this explains mrmakaveli7's dreaming process.

The guy that built the Angel Light laser must have had some kind of knowledge about what he was doing, ie. using the colour lasers and the gases- u can't just come up with an idea like that one day without any knowledge of technology in that instance.

Another theory is the Activation-synthesis theory- which states that dreams are a product of random activity in the brain during sleep, as different parts of the brain stimulate different thoughts, this theory accounts for the typical illogical dream- however, does not account for lucid dreaming.

Not too sure about those who have dreams about prophecies- psychology can't explain that one yet- and neither can i!!

Oh yea, and dreams occured during REM sleep (RAPID EYE MOVEMENT), or at least it was dreaming during this time that could be reported back - study by Dement and Kleitman. Its an EEG that is used to see which parts of the brain are active while dreaming.
Exactly.
 
#11
yo this one guy here in germany once dreamed of toilet paper. when he woke up he drew some sketches and went back to sleep.
next day he made a "prototype" of a toilet paper thats made wet by a little tool. not really wet, but just a little so its softer or something like that.
now the amazing thing is, he literally went from rags to riches with his idea and drives the newest 7er bmw and is a MILLIONAIRE. omg!
 
#12
im sorry but your wrong about 1 thing ruk

that is that our brains are resting when we sleep

quite the opposite

when we are awake our brains are resting and when we sleep our brains are awake

our brains are only running at 10% when we are awake

but when we sleep our brains are running at 70%+
 
#14
No but seriously, just 2 nights ago i had an odd dream but what i distinctly remember about it was wrestling an alligator. This image didnt appear to my subconscious for any reason such as seeing in on tv....well i googled the dream symbol and it turns out:
Alligators-Feeling threatened or fearful, especially in terms of unseen danger

I remembered that Ive been worrying about my relationship with my girlfriend these past couple of days, and well yesterday we decided to split.
Dreams tell you more about yourself than you can ever know by trying to analyze yourself in some ways.

Another time i distinctly remebered a hippopotomous being in my dream, and upon learning its symbolic meaning A large and seemingly unmovable obstacle or challenge. Keep in mind this came at a time when my anxiety was flaring up hardcore and pressures to move on with my life and pick a career were all raining down on me. Theres reasons we dream and the more you analyze the dreams the more you figure it out.
 

Flipmo

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#15
Bina said:
I study psychology and there's a few different theories about dreaming. However, none of them have been proved to be 100% correct. Freud states that our unconscious thoughts that have been repressed over time and when we dream, these repressed thoughts are bought to the surface. (Wish fulfillment prophecy)

Secondly, can't remember which theorist it was, but said that we dream to sort out all the information that has been processed (or not processed) during the day. Dreaming allows us to solve these problems that we were unable to solve while conscious. I suppose this explains mrmakaveli7's dreaming process.

The guy that built the Angel Light laser must have had some kind of knowledge about what he was doing, ie. using the colour lasers and the gases- u can't just come up with an idea like that one day without any knowledge of technology in that instance.

Another theory is the Activation-synthesis theory- which states that dreams are a product of random activity in the brain during sleep, as different parts of the brain stimulate different thoughts, this theory accounts for the typical illogical dream- however, does not account for lucid dreaming.

Not too sure about those who have dreams about prophecies- psychology can't explain that one yet- and neither can i!!

Oh yea, and dreams occured during REM sleep (RAPID EYE MOVEMENT), or at least it was dreaming during this time that could be reported back - study by Dement and Kleitman. Its an EEG that is used to see which parts of the brain are active while dreaming.

Danm, you beat me to it. lol. I study psychology too and I've learned some of that.

Anyways, that's the psychological point of view that Bina is stating. Me on the other, for the last cople of months, things I've been dreaming about have come true. Sometimes, it was weeks later or even months later. Honestly, it's been coming in alot more. I never had this before, and I just figured out my grandma has had the same problem most her life.

Anyways, the subconcious is known to be an extremly interesting tool in many fields of science. Psychologists that have used hypnosis have relied on the subconsious to solve people's problems in the past and still is used up to date.

It's also said, opening certain 'doors' in the subconcious can make you alot more aware of the environment that surrounds you. You notice things you would never before.

I've also heard of the subconsious is the rest of the brain % capacity that we don't use. Which is alot! but knowing we're not used to it, we don't make out it's meanings.

But the last 1 is mroe of a theory I've heard one of my teachers talk about.
 

Rukas

Capo Dei Capi
Staff member
#16
mrmakaveli7 said:
i wanna comment more on this in depth later on but im just gunna say something real quick. i was writing a paper for school one nite, a term paper. it took me about 7 or 8 hours to do and that is all that was on my mind, my brain was completely encompassed with that paper becuase i wanted to get an A. that same night i went to sleep still thinking about my paper, and in my dream i thought of an idea.. something really substancial to add in my paper. i actually woke myself up earlier in the day before class and changed my paper around adding in my idea.
my point is that when your mind is encompassed with thought, trying to develope ideas going over them repetedly in your head, you can expect it to be part of your subconsious as well. just was when something bothering you emotionally is part of your subconsious. do you not remember a time when something that was eating at your mind the whole day came back to haunt you in your dreams? i also remember having had dreams of making up with friends after getting into big fights with them. i do however agree that dreams retain more meaning than is understood to us at this time. but i argue that some dreams can be brought about by yourself and what your mind is thinking subconsiously.... even if your not thinking at all
Thats happened to me.

And sometimes Ill dream song lyrics for future songs too.
 
#17
^Yeah I've done that as well. In high school I would solve Maths equations in my dreams. Another time, last year actually, I came up with my main argument for an assignment for Law in a dream and ended up getting a High Distinction based on the thoughts in my dream. But damn it, I wish I could harness that skill come exam time!!
 

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