Superstition

[Bender]

After some personal research on (history), I (indirectly) stumbled upon some interesting information on Superstition and how it is Used. Some thought and realisation, that this is not just a myth, gives me promt to write on my findings:


Superstition has a main theme, which deals a lot with influence, especially on expectations. Belief is composite, but only if the supposed ‘effect of a cause’ is to be believed; and that is Superstition's secrect!

Associations with the supernatural are somewhat irrational and misleading, as if to say that superstition cannot be explained. This is not the case, but rather the design to throw the mind off comprehending the science and employment of what superstition actually is.
‘Natural’, is superstitions involvement with the science of the mind (beliefs/expectations), and ‘Super’ to it’s wielder on account of it’s power to influence. Super-Natural, A subtle term for what seems to be a subtle form of Mind-Control.

Understanding what superstition actually is and how ‘the devil were to use it’, one can see that it reaches far deeper into society than a mere walk under a ladder. Notice the intent to influence when hearing:

a) ‘If you walk under a ladder then you get bad luck.’

And …

b) ‘If you (hang with a specific crowd) then you are a Geek.’

Or …

c) ‘Smoking cigarettes causes ageing of the skin.’



These are all the same kind of statement, with similar aims on our behaviours. All (a, b, and c) are based on causality, and can be seen being used, in society, as something to add to or to alter your beliefs/perception of things.

Bound not just to statement, superstition can be seen in many a medium of communication. It can be found in Doctrine (mainly), stories, newspapers, TV, word of mouth, and the aforementioned cigarette packet.

It is good to find answers to questions, but not so good if someone has anticipated the question and has a prepared answer for you.

 

[Bender]

Guess no-one has any thoughts on superstition. How about this:

Black men create a rhumour that their sex organ is the largest of the human species, in an attempt to impress the ladies of other races ...
Just Like: Ancient Ninja created superstitious stories that they were raised by magical and deadly demons, as a way to awe their enemy.

 

[Illuminattile]

I don't think anyone had a clue what you were talking about.

What's your argument, here? Your latter examples aren't really superstitions. A superstition is the incorrect and illogical belief that X causes Y. Some people believe that black cats or the number thirteen cause bad luck. The idea that ninjas have magical powers is myth, not superstition.

As far as "supernatural" being a code word for "Mind control"...what?

 

[Khaled]

not sure i get your point

statements a,b and c are not at all the same

a-> superstition
b-> social thing
c-> scientific (i think???)

statement c implies direct causality, as in smoking causes...

statement b might be true, but it doesn't imply causality, only correlation. as in if you hang with this crowed, you re assumed to be a geeek, but you don't become a geek after hanging with them (assuming that being a geek has an absolute meaning regardless of what ppl think)

statement a is a superstition as in there s no proven correlation between bad luck and walking under a ladder.

and i didn t really nderstand the rest of your post

 

[Bender]

http://shop.store.yahoo.com/spytechagency/13413.html
^^^Maybe people would know what I mean if they have read this book.

Dr Haha Lung explains all the methods ninja used to manipulate their enemies.
Very interesting, though not if you want to go around messing with the minds of your colleagues and co-workers. Not that anyone would want to .

It does state on the book that it is for academic study only, and is put to use more as a means of noticing the forms of mind-control, rather than being the one to put them to practice.

As far as "supernatural" being a code word for "Mind control"...what?

That is not what I meant, maybe its the way I wrote it. Supernatural is the term associated with Superstition, and it is Superstition that is the form of mind-control - which is what I'm trying to explain.

My above statements (a, b and c) are just simple examples of how peoples minds can be influenced. What I am trying to get at though, is a lot more complex than this.

 

[Illuminattile]

I agree that spreading disinformation could constitute a form of mind control. Perhaps not superstitions in the traditional sense (black cats, the number 13 etc.).

Bound not just to statement, superstition can be seen in many a medium of communication. It can be found in Doctrine (mainly), stories, newspapers, TV, word of mouth, and the aforementioned cigarette packet.

Do you have any examples from your research?

 

[Jokerman]

I don't know if this has been pointed out already, but in the Story of (having to reference the Bible) Genesis, many of the people like Noah and his family, lived well over 500 years a piece. This being the case, I could see it quite possible that Mary was Moses sister, for I have no indication as to when they were born, or how old when passing away.

 

[Khaled]

I don't know if this has been pointed out already, but in the Story of (having to reference the Bible) Genesis, many of the people like Noah and his family, lived well over 500 years a piece. This being the case, I could see it quite possible that Mary was Moses sister, for I have no indication as to when they were born, or how old when passing away.

LOL WTF?????

 

[Glockmatic]

I don't know if this has been pointed out already, but in the Story of (having to reference the Bible) Genesis, many of the people like Noah and his family, lived well over 500 years a piece. This being the case, I could see it quite possible that Mary was Moses sister, for I have no indication as to when they were born, or how old when passing away.

I see, thats why Vampires can live for hundreds if not THOUSANDS of years since Transilvania has no date-of-birth system. GENIUS

 

[Bender]

Thanks Jokerman for copy/pasting my post out of ' Rukas' Errors in the Koran ' thread. What was the point?...
Bad.

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Back to the subject ...

Do you have any examples from your research?

Another example would be the case of Morals and Ethics, for example: There is no law that states you can't talk about sex, which is seen as a taboo. But yet Ethics are responsible for the ban/restriction on doing such a thing. Ethics can be seen here, to have a similar purpose to what superstition can have.

Ethics is to say that: This is That, or X means Y. Just like superstition tries to do.


Plato and Aristole, have done enough to point out that the foundations of Ethics aren't concrete.

 

[Khaled]

Right, but you still don't show how superstition can be a form of control. i think illuminatile was asking for an example about that.

 

[Bender]

I've shown it already, but is difficult to put across without the fitting words.

The form of control is associated with the constituent theoretic priciples of superstition - not superstition directly, which are: influence and belief (as mentioned above).

So trying to influence someone that #13 means bad luck, is like saying sex is immoral. 13 is 13, and Sex is Sex.

Its completely irrational, and is a way to control peoples thinking that This is That, when its not.

 

[Khaled]

^^ ok, but what purpose does it serve to make people believe that the friday the 13th is bad luck???

 

[Bender]

^^ ok, but what purpose does it serve to make people believe that the friday the 13th is bad luck???

The purpose, as with all superstition, is to try and connect two, or more, different concepts and call them the same.

So what you got there, is trying to associate a Day of the Week, with a Statistic, with Negativity. (The principles of) Superstition, takes these three different concepts, connects them, and then trys to rationalise it all with something that can't be explained: The Supernatural.

The only argument for the apparent irrationality of superstition, is that: Superstition isn't 'meant' to be understood on rational terms. What is 'meant to be' understood through superstition (as though it's its purpose), is what it is implying. Whereas I (hope to) have explained, a different view of this.

It may not be (seen as) superstitious to say that Sex is immoral, like Friday the 13th is bad luck. But they are working on the same kind of principles; it's like forming a train of thought and pushing others (minds) onto that train.

Does this make any sense(?)

 

[kman_69]

i find the acceptance of basic superstitions in society to be pretty humerous...and the fact that we are told from a young age to "respect" peoples superstitions and never question them...

e.g people wearing crosses around their necks in case God or Jesus is watching.....its essentially the same as wearing garlic around your neck in case you run into a vampire. (yet its only the latter that most people find humour in)