Steroids

Shahin

Active Member
#1
Well...............I'm kinda playing with the thought of doing a D-Bol cycle. My friend's been cycling this stuff for about half a year and been making some amazing gains. I doubt I'll do it though, but anyways,I made this thread for people to post their experiences with steroids, good or bad. Please don't post if you don't know what you're talking about.
 
#2
I myself would never take steroids for a variety of reasons e.g all the side effects, but mainly because thats not the look that I'm after, in my opinion people on steroids get to big and look out of proportion,
Also taking steroids does not automatically make you look as big and as good as possible, you have to train incredibly hard and have an impecable diet, otherwise you'll just get big with no definition, (which is something I see a lot of at the gym)
 
#3
Its not safe to take steriods before you are 21. You may not be able to have kids and it will stunt your growth. Steriods can also cause heart problems.
 
#4
Shahin said:
Well...............I'm kinda playing with the thought of doing a D-Bol cycle. My friend's been cycling this stuff for about half a year and been making some amazing gains. I doubt I'll do it though
if this is your first cycle expect to put on a good 20lbs of lean muscle mass in 6 weeks.These are newbie gains.Gains will be alot less on future cycles.

radkin said:
I myself would never take steroids for a variety of reasons e.g all the side effects, but mainly because thats not the look that I'm after, in my opinion people on steroids get to big and look out of proportion,
Side effects can be greatly reduced or eliminated if you know what you're doing. The whole steroid side effects thing is blown out of proportion.If you do a test cycle and take a good PH after the cycle,then you would be fine.It's the people who are not educated enough to use steroids and use them that give steroids a bad name.

aznchaos said:
Its not safe to take steriods before you are 21. You may not be able to have kids and it will stunt your growth. Steriods can also cause heart problems.
Your are generalizing the word steroids too much. Theres a whole bunch of different steroids. Please next time state which steroid causes heart problems or stunts your growth.


I myself don't cycle steroids,but at the same time I don't find a problem with them.I'm doing fine with my gains that I don't need the extra help.

IMO using steroids is not cheating.It's just like using supplements,something to "help" you progress.Steroids get a bad rep because idiots who have absolutely no idea what they're doing take it and fuck themselves up.That's the same reason why ephedra was banned,it is absolutely safe to use when you follow instructions. Morons took extra dosages thinking it will double their weight loss,they ended up having a heart attack.
 
#5
bigmack said:
Your are generalizing the word steroids too much. Theres a whole bunch of different steroids. Please next time state which steroid causes heart problems or stunts your growth.
"22. What is the safest steroid I can use to make the best gains ?

Very stupid question. Side-effects caused by steroids are either of an androgenic or an estrogenic nature. The gains caused by steroids come from the activation of androgen or estrogen receptors. In essence that means reducing the side-effects is the same as reducing the gains. So you need to know what you want, good gains or a safe cycle. Every steroid has a risk of side-effects as well, there is no safe steroid and there is no one safest steroid.

The best advice I can give in this regard is to make a choice which side-effects bother you most, estrogenic or androgenic, and then attempt to eliminate those as best you can. But you will have to come to terms with the risks eventually. if you cannot deal with the fact that you may (because side-effects are rarer than you think if you use responsibly) experience side-effects, then you are not ready for steroids. Either your gains mean more to you, or they do not. Make the choice."
This is taken off bodybuilding.com

You WILL stunt your growth if you take any steriods before you stop growing. I didnt say steriods WILL give you heart problems but they can. They can enlarge your heart, cause higher colestrrol,higher BP readings and possible high cholesterol.
 
#7
aznchaos said:
"22. What is the safest steroid I can use to make the best gains ?

Very stupid question. Side-effects caused by steroids are either of an androgenic or an estrogenic nature. The gains caused by steroids come from the activation of androgen or estrogen receptors. In essence that means reducing the side-effects is the same as reducing the gains. So you need to know what you want, good gains or a safe cycle. Every steroid has a risk of side-effects as well, there is no safe steroid and there is no one safest steroid.

The best advice I can give in this regard is to make a choice which side-effects bother you most, estrogenic or androgenic, and then attempt to eliminate those as best you can. But you will have to come to terms with the risks eventually. if you cannot deal with the fact that you may (because side-effects are rarer than you think if you use responsibly) experience side-effects, then you are not ready for steroids. Either your gains mean more to you, or they do not. Make the choice."
This is taken off bodybuilding.com

This little article is obviously aimed at newbies.Notice the "(because side-effects are rarer than you think if you use responsibly) ".If you know what you are doing,there is no danger.I never said go all out on steroids without worrying about potential side effects.Obviously you have to take precautions and use PHs.Conclusion?If your a newbie don't mess with roids.Educate yourself first.

aznchaos said:
You WILL stunt your growth if you take any steriods before you stop growing. I didnt say steriods WILL give you heart problems but they can. They can enlarge your heart, cause higher colestrrol,higher BP readings and possible high cholesterol.
It's not the steroids that stunt your growth,it's the weightlifting before you stop growing.

The only roid that can enlarge your heart is growth hormone.Anyone who uses GH already knows this.

Cholesterol and high blood pressure are not directly caused by steroids.Check this out.When you are on a roid cycle,you will be pigging out.All that food will obviously cause cholesterol and BP increase.The actual steroid is not raising these values.This problem isnt even something to worry about since you are only on a roid /bulk cycle for a limited time only.Once you cut,your cholesterol and bp will drop back to healthy values.
 
#9
bigmack said:
This little article is obviously aimed at newbies.Notice the "(because side-effects are rarer than you think if you use responsibly) ".If you know what you are doing,there is no danger.I never said go all out on steroids without worrying about potential side effects.Obviously you have to take precautions and use PHs.Conclusion?If your a newbie don't mess with roids.Educate yourself first.
There is always a danger in taking steriods even if you do what your suppost to do exactly and take all the precautions. People that take steriods have to accept that.



bigmack said:
It's not the steroids that stunt your growth,it's the weightlifting before you stop growing.
Weightlifting alone rarely stunts your growth. If your age 10-13 and your lifting too heavy for only 1 rep. Steriods close the epiphysial plates in your bones and stop all possibility of a greater height. Using steroids during puberty when you are dealing with an already very unstable endocrine system can have severe consequences in the long run : Erectile dysfunction (impotence), loss of libido and even infertility.
 
#10
radkin said:
...but mainly because thats not the look that I'm after, in my opinion people on steroids get to big and look out of proportion,
Thats not true. I know that a lot of models these days are taking steroids. It gives them that esily attainable ripped looked, and if you diet and train properly you don't get overtly huge. Just extremely cut.

%80 of the guys you see on the covers of health magazines and various other male publication are on steroids. It's a must in the industry now in order to stay competetive.
 

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