Red Sox, fans turning into what they loathe

SicC

Dying Breed
Staff member
#1
With the exodus under way and the Angels about to be swept at home, a chant went up behind the visitors' dugout: Bos-ton Red Sox. Bos-ton Red Sox. Such a mantra, this hymn without harmony, didn't come as much of a surprise. After all, America has become a Red Sox Nation, Boston now being baseball's biggest draw.

Rather, what was stunning about the drone, is how much the droners sounded like Yankees fans.

If there really was a Curse, as Red Sox fans like to say, perhaps it came with a codicil: You become what you hate.

With the Yankees now vanquished and leaderless, and their principal owner's faculties in question, the Red Sox can no longer be portrayed with much sympathy. The sentimental underpinnings on which the Red Sox Nation was created owed everything to that team in the Bronx. The Red Sox can be underdogs only in relation to the Yankees.

But now that notion has perished. The Red Sox are the best team in baseball. They should beat the Cleveland Indians and win the World Series without too much difficulty. Still, it's difficult to root for a team that can pay $14 million per to J.D. Drew, who, by the way, won't even start in Game 1 of the ALCS.

According to Opening Day salary figures, the Red Sox began the season as a $143 million enterprise (this excludes the $6 million salary they'd pay a mid-season pickup Eric Gagne). The Indians, by contrast, had a $61 million payroll. That gap — approximately $82 million — is considerably more than the gap between the Red Sox and the Yankees.

The Yankees have committed any number of profligate and mercenary acts (the $28 million prorated salary for Roger Clemens comes first to mind, though Jason Giambi and Carl Pavano are up there, too). Still, a good chunk of the Yankee payroll has gone to proven players who never played for another major league team: Derek Jeter, Mariano Rivera, Jorge Posada, Hideki Matsui and, in years past, Bernie Williams.

The Red Sox, by contrast, have not exactly been models of continuity. Julio Lugo, for example, is their fourth starting shortstop since 2004, when they won the World Series with Orlando Cabrera. Of the 25 players on Boston's World Series roster, only eight remain with the team: Manny Ramirez, David Ortiz, Curt Schilling, Mike Timlin, Jason Varitek, Tim Wakefield, Doug Mirabelli and Kevin Youkilis (who didn't get a World Series at-bat). Of those eight, it bears mention, only two made their big league debuts with Boston.

It's been almost five years since Red Sox president Larry Lucchino labeled the Yankees "The Evil Empire." It was a great line, and sportswriters everywhere remain indebted to him. But let's frame its context. His utterance followed the Yankees' signing of Jose Contreras, a move that once again demonstrated the Empire's capacity for expensive folly. Still, one imagines Lucchino vowing it would never happen again.

In 2007, the Red Sox outbid everyone, including the Yankees, for the rights to Daisuke Matsuzaka. Those rights came at a price of $51 million. And though that figure is not reflected in the Red Sox payroll, it represents almost 84 percent of the Indians' Opening Day roster budget, which was 23rd in the majors. Then again, Cleveland is almost a big market team compared to the Rockies and the Diamondbacks (25th and 26th in payroll at $54 million and $52 million, respectively)

But back to the ALCS, which begins tonight at Fenway Park. Perhaps you shall hear from those venerable voices of Red Sox Nation, Doris Kearns and Stephen King. Or maybe it will be a newcomer, like Kevin Garnett. They will extol the virtues of Boston's baseball team. But what are those, exactly?

Save for a withering owner, the Red Sox are not at all unlike their former nemesis. They are an empire of their own now. And if you rooted for the Red Sox because they weren't the Yankees, aren't you now obligated to root for the Indians?

Do the math. Add the salaries of C.C. Sabathia, Fausto Carmona, Grady Sizemore, Franklin Guttierrez, Jhonny Peralta, Chris Gomez, Rafael Betancourt, Rafael Perez and Ryan Garko.

Now what do you have?

About a half million less than J.D. Drew.
 
#2
the AL def. has some solid teams in the playoffs... so the ALCS is def. a series to watch.... the NLCS is way too boring.. one of my roommates a rockies fan, and me being the cubs fan i gotta root for them to take out the d'backs...

as for the bosox, im def. pulling for them over the indians, just because i believe they're the better team.. still, i see what you're saying... the fact that they emptied out everything they had to get drew.. and then did something else to get dice-k..... thats a yankees move there
 

SicC

Dying Breed
Staff member
#3
Ya it was a pretty good article, im rooting for the rockies since I am a Cubs fan as well. I would rather see the Indians win but Its going to be tough for them to beat Boston, of course if there pitching shows up in game two theres a good possibility they could win.

pz
 

FroDawgg

Well-Known Member
#4
i'm going for the sox only cuz i'm a chisox fan and i hate the indians. but then i want the rockies to win it all. about a month and a half ago i actually called the rockies and angels to be in the WS, and then colorado had their magical run. at least i can still get it half right.
 

AmerikazMost

Well-Known Member
#5
It was a shitty article. Bandwagon fans are worthless, but as for the payroll, it's not winning us as many games as it may seem.

Some of our high-paid players:
Matt Clement ($9.5 million) - Not even playing
J.D. Drew (14.4 million) - Might as well not even be playing
Mike Lowell ($9 million) - Acquired through a trade--not signed--and at first it looked like we were taking his contract on as a favor to the Marlins
Julio Lugo ($8.2 million)- Not exactly a big name-signing; he's just way overpaid
Eric Gagne ($6 million) - Traded for
Eric Hinske ($5.8 million) - Not exactly a big name-signing; sitting on our bench

We have money to throw around, but we're not going out and making big name signings every which way. Most of our contributors -- Beckett, Lester, Wakefield, Okajima, Timlin, Delcarmen, Lopez, Papelbon, Varitek, Youkilis, Pedroia, Lowell, Ellsbury, Ortiz, Cora -- weren't big name signings. And even Coco Crisp was plan B after Damon defected.

Our payroll is so high because we make a lot of bad signings, not because we're buying championships
 
#6
haha, i was expecting AM to say something like that... its cool.. i still root for the sox, like i said before... i think its a very good team... they're not like the yanks where players are their whores.. use them when they're good and then drop them when they suck.... the red sox have kept varitek, manny, ortiz, and youkillis for some time.. i dont see any of them walking, maybe varitek retiring some time soon, but.... i see dice-k and okajima being there for some time too... so they arent quite the yanks yet.. they still respect their players...
 

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