Technology Recording TV on to your computer?

#2
first get a high quality video capture card / tv tuner / a/v in card. choosing a high quality card will make a huge difference.

then you need a good encoder and codec. divx or xvid is good. theres a gang of formats that not a lot of people know about. search on google,try them out,see which ones are to your liking.

you can save it to straight avi or mpeg, but that takes so much hard drive space.
 

Dante

Meyer & Dante Best Friends4eva
#4
be careful in which conversion device you use... some have m2v compressing codecs built in, and you cannot alter the bitrate they adopt. it's best to keep things pure and decide for yourself which codec and bitrate to use. for that reason i prefer the hollywood capture device by dazzle. it's a discontinued product so you can ebay it for 100 or less. for 100 i got a hi-8 video camera and the hollywood, so if you look you can find a deal. basically the hollywood allows rca or s-video input/output. you'll get 100X better picture using s-video, so this is a plus. it then feeds the video into your cpu via firewire or usb. usb is too slow, so you'll lose frames from my experience. after you have the raw video file (a quicktime mov for me), then you can edit and compress. having a big raw video file is important because if it has already been compressed once, adding editing (usually done in dv) and then recompressing is not always so good. likewise, i use a two pass viariable bitrate, so you end up with a better final product by going from tv-->hollywood-->cpu raw dv-->cpu edit-->cpu compress. complex, but once you learn it (i taught myself) then you can crank out some pretty amazing dvd's.
 
#5
Dante said:
be careful in which conversion device you use... some have m2v compressing codecs built in, and you cannot alter the bitrate they adopt. it's best to keep things pure and decide for yourself which codec and bitrate to use. for that reason i prefer the hollywood capture device by dazzle. it's a discontinued product so you can ebay it for 100 or less. for 100 i got a hi-8 video camera and the hollywood, so if you look you can find a deal. basically the hollywood allows rca or s-video input/output. you'll get 100X better picture using s-video, so this is a plus. it then feeds the video into your cpu via firewire or usb. usb is too slow, so you'll lose frames from my experience. after you have the raw video file (a quicktime mov for me), then you can edit and compress. having a big raw video file is important because if it has already been compressed once, adding editing (usually done in dv) and then recompressing is not always so good. likewise, i use a two pass viariable bitrate, so you end up with a better final product by going from tv-->hollywood-->cpu raw dv-->cpu edit-->cpu compress. complex, but once you learn it (i taught myself) then you can crank out some pretty amazing dvd's.
Nice info, thanks. With the method i used before I lost sound quality and framerate. I'll look into the Hollywood...
 
#6
Dante said:
be careful in which conversion device you use... some have m2v compressing codecs built in, and you cannot alter the bitrate they adopt. it's best to keep things pure and decide for yourself which codec and bitrate to use. for that reason i prefer the hollywood capture device by dazzle. it's a discontinued product so you can ebay it for 100 or less. for 100 i got a hi-8 video camera and the hollywood, so if you look you can find a deal. basically the hollywood allows rca or s-video input/output. you'll get 100X better picture using s-video, so this is a plus. it then feeds the video into your cpu via firewire or usb. usb is too slow, so you'll lose frames from my experience. after you have the raw video file (a quicktime mov for me), then you can edit and compress. having a big raw video file is important because if it has already been compressed once, adding editing (usually done in dv) and then recompressing is not always so good. likewise, i use a two pass viariable bitrate, so you end up with a better final product by going from tv-->hollywood-->cpu raw dv-->cpu edit-->cpu compress. complex, but once you learn it (i taught myself) then you can crank out some pretty amazing dvd's.
Since DV rate is only 4MB/S, USB(considering its USB 2.0) will do just fine(>15MB/S). The older USB is crap.
 

Cooper

Well-Known Member
#10
^ :)

USB2 is faster than firewire tho.....

but firewire's probley better for this kinda thing due to it handling constant streams of data well.
 

Dante

Meyer & Dante Best Friends4eva
#11
usb2 specs are much more ideal than practical application of the usb2 technology. high end firewire interfaces are unmatchable. i can copy a 10 mb file between firewire drives without a copy dialogue box even popping up, whereas a usb drive will require a little "think time" before starting the copy. firewire wins in my system.
 
#14
Dante said:
usb2 specs are much more ideal than practical application of the usb2 technology. high end firewire interfaces are unmatchable. i can copy a 10 mb file between firewire drives without a copy dialogue box even popping up, whereas a usb drive will require a little "think time" before starting the copy. firewire wins in my system.
yep,you're right,even though usb supports higher speeds,doesnt mean they are better.

the reason why u can copy a 10 mb file without the dialog popping up is because with usb,the usb controller is needed to control the bus and data transfer, whereas firewire works without control,the devices communicate peer to peer.

firewire still proves to outscore usb2 in benchmarks
 

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