Raiders Will Be Without LaMont Jordan

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ALAMEDA, Calif. (Dec. 23, 2005) -- Oakland Raiders running back LaMont Jordan remained sidelined with a turf toe injury and has been ruled out of the team's game against Denver.

Jordan, who is the first Oakland running back since 2000 to rush for more than 1,000 yards, injured himself last week early in the first half of the Raiders' 9-7 loss to Cleveland. Jordan remained in the game, rushing for a career-best 132 yards in the defeat.

An MRI after the game revealed the turf toe injury and Jordan had his foot placed in a protective walking boot. He did not practice at all this week in hopes that the rest would enable Jordan to play in Denver.

Oakland coach Norv Turner shot those hopes down with the news that Jordan would not play. Instead, the Raiders will rely on fullback Zack Crockett and seldom-used running back Justin Fargas.

"Zack can grind on a team," Turner said, "and (Denver) is the type of team that Zack, with his downhill style, they go sideways so much, he should be effective."

Crockett has been the Raiders' short-yardage specialist since joining the team as a free agent in 1999. This year he's primarily been Jordan's lead-blocker while providing an occasional break for his backfield partner.

Crockett has rushed for 120 yards on 30 carries this season while Fargas, a third-round pick in 2003 who has been plagued throughout his career by injuries, has just two carries for four yards.

"It will be tough to lose a guy of (Jordan's) caliber," Crockett said earlier this week. "You know I'm always ready to pick up the pace. I'm always amped for an opportunity."

http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/OAK/9115032
 
#3
haha, i was gonna say that too....they had no chance to make the playoffs, what do they need him for???

i thought oakland was gonan be such a promising team this year, with randy moss...but he hasnt been healthy....kery collins and moss woulda been an awesome duo...then lamont as an addition woulda just been amazing....well...maybe next season..
 

jbrolax

Active Member
#5
dude when he was on the jets he lived in my town across the street from my friend, we were at the girls house when he got home from some preseason thing in like 2003 and we were chantin his name and the whole j-e-t-s jets....thing he came over and say hi and shit, hes a good guy....

oh well just thought id mention it...
 
#7
ok this is the second thread uve made about the Gayders, and ther outta the playoffs, no one cares who they hav as starting QB, RB, WR, TE, Coach, or waterboy. They suck with the players they hav, we don care that ther losing sum
 

Butt Rubber

More arrogant than SicC
#9
tennis_dog said:
i'd still expect more from a team with kerry collins and randy moss


and lamont jordan was having a solid year this year.....
taking 14 games to reach 1000 yards isnt solid, especially since he didnt do much to help his team win either
 
#10
Bank Robber said:
taking 14 games to reach 1000 yards isnt solid, especially since he didnt do much to help his team win either

well, buddy, you obviously are not much of a football fan....

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5496/gamelog;_ylt=Anw7lOCxWlP5bt6evSkXkfb.uLYF

it took him 14 games to reach 1000 yards...having a season WITH 1000 yards is right off the bat considered a solid season...he had 1025...

had he played in these last two games, it;d be safe say he woulda raked in another 100 yards...and hit 1100 or so...that too would be very good with the shitty o-line the raiders have...

also, take a look at the 563 receiving yards and the 2 TDs there...thats making up for moss right there...he's not a receiver...he's not supposed to have a line like that...but he took moss's load as well on his shoulders

now true, he sucked with the jets....of course you'll suck with the jets when you're curtis martin's bitch....give me a a RB duo that both scored 10+TDs each...none....maybe KC lasst year but they are a team with depth, so larry johnson and holmes both got their chances...


the point is, lamont did suck with the jets, and definetly got overpaid to come to the raiders, but i think this year he showed the raiders that he was worth the cash, and next year, he can only improve...with randy moss back next year, his receiving yards will def. go down, but that'll raise his running stats line, which'll prolly make him the top 10 RBs in the league..
 

jbrolax

Active Member
#11
Lamont didnt suck with the jets, when he got in he did good. You cnat go on numbes because he wasnt a starter... Plus he had the sickest TD celebrations. He did the chainsaw long before he was on the raiders.
 
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^i kinda had the same idea as you....but i said he sucked...i guess waht i was trying to say was that his numbers werent as great, but for the same reason you said....he wasnt a starter....and not being a starter and being behind curtis martin, you're kinda stuck on the sidelines
 

Butt Rubber

More arrogant than SicC
#13
tennis_dog said:
well, buddy, you obviously are not much of a football fan....

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5496/gamelog;_ylt=Anw7lOCxWlP5bt6evSkXkfb.uLYF

it took him 14 games to reach 1000 yards...having a season WITH 1000 yards is right off the bat considered a solid season...he had 1025...

had he played in these last two games, it;d be safe say he woulda raked in another 100 yards...and hit 1100 or so...that too would be very good with the shitty o-line the raiders have...

also, take a look at the 563 receiving yards and the 2 TDs there...thats making up for moss right there...he's not a receiver...he's not supposed to have a line like that...but he took moss's load as well on his shoulders

now true, he sucked with the jets....of course you'll suck with the jets when you're curtis martin's bitch....give me a a RB duo that both scored 10+TDs each...none....maybe KC lasst year but they are a team with depth, so larry johnson and holmes both got their chances...


the point is, lamont did suck with the jets, and definetly got overpaid to come to the raiders, but i think this year he showed the raiders that he was worth the cash, and next year, he can only improve...with randy moss back next year, his receiving yards will def. go down, but that'll raise his running stats line, which'll prolly make him the top 10 RBs in the league..
i've forgotten more about football than you'll ever know, where the fuck do you get off questioning my knowledge of the grid iron?

1000 yards a season means you had a little over 60 yards per game, wow what a big accomplishment :rolleyes:

the following running backs are better than Lamont Jordan:

LT
Tiki Barber
Shaun Alexander
Larry Johnson
Cory Dillon
Edgerrin James
Clinton Portis
Steven Jackson
Brian Westbrook
Rudi Johnson
Willis McGahee
DeShaun Foster
Ruben Droughens
Fred Taylor
Curtis Martin (when healthy)
 
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you started off strong, but tailed off into sounding like a jackass.... lets see...brian westbrook is on the IR....has been for some time now...he does not have a better stat line than lamont... corey dillon....has been sidelined for many weeks...his stat line....is not as good as lamont's.... fred taylor...sidelined...not better than lamont... willis mcgahee...cocky little bastard...tell me when he's gotten over 100 yards rushing against a good team...a good team.. i really dont have alotta time on my hands right now, but let me beat the dead horse one last time... http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6783/gamelog;_ylt=AimUUkz1YQU0YXiQfL3jK6j.uLYF ^ that's steven jackson's stats...tell me...how is he better than lamont??? i really dont want to say anymore cuz it'll just end up being a flame war....you're wrong....accept it..
 
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1000 yards is average nowadays, 1200+ would be what I'd call solid. I don't think Bank's talking about stats when he's mentioning these names, he's just saying that they are all better running backs. And with a few exceptions, I'd agree with that.
 

Butt Rubber

More arrogant than SicC
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tennis_dog said:
you started off strong, but tailed off into sounding like a jackass.... lets see...brian westbrook is on the IR....has been for some time now...he does not have a better stat line than lamont... corey dillon....has been sidelined for many weeks...his stat line....is not as good as lamont's.... fred taylor...sidelined...not better than lamont... willis mcgahee...cocky little bastard...tell me when he's gotten over 100 yards rushing against a good team...a good team.. i really dont have alotta time on my hands right now, but let me beat the dead horse one last time... http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6783/gamelog;_ylt=AimUUkz1YQU0YXiQfL3jK6j.uLYF ^ that's steven jackson's stats...tell me...how is he better than lamont??? i really dont want to say anymore cuz it'll just end up being a flame war....you're wrong....accept it..
i wasn't talking about stats, stats can be used to interpret anything. In terms of pure talent, atheletic ability and production when it counts (not gaining garbage yards), Lamont isn't as good as any of the running backs I mentioned

You never want to argue with Bank Robber in the sports forum, I live and breath for sports (and marijuana), thats all I care about.
 
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"I live and breath for sports (and marijuana), thats all I care about." that's really nothing to be proud of, but ok...i'll let you slide for that im sure alot of players have talent, but its about bringing that talent out on to the field...thats what matters most....and this is lamont's first year really as a starter, so i can let that "average" year, the way the previous guy described it as, slide, and give him another shot next year to improve on those numbers... you still have yet to answer how steven jackson is a better rb...he only has more "garbage" yards than lamont...he's still a TD short...he also has played in one extra game....this is only his second year in the nfl, and im sure that you claimed to have football "intelligence" and not to be some psychic....you cant say for sure that any of those RBs will have the same years....what happened to jamal lewis after his 2000 yard season? who was larry johnson last year?? what was mcgahee this year? im sure your "football intelligence" couldnt have predicted muhsin muhammad underachieving, and thomas jones hitting 1300 yards??? dont give that "i know football" shit...people like generally get shut up real quick i also noticed the absence of priest holmes...he not good enough for you?? 27 Tds in a season not enough "talent" for you??? in fact, i dont know where the hell you're getting you support for this crap...are you going according to this year, the previous years, or are you making predictions again?? what is it you're trying to state???
 

Butt Rubber

More arrogant than SicC
#18
tennis_dog said:
"I live and breath for sports (and marijuana), thats all I care about." that's really nothing to be proud of, but ok...i'll let you slide for that im sure alot of players have talent, but its about bringing that talent out on to the field...thats what matters most....and this is lamont's first year really as a starter, so i can let that "average" year, the way the previous guy described it as, slide, and give him another shot next year to improve on those numbers... you still have yet to answer how steven jackson is a better rb...he only has more "garbage" yards than lamont...he's still a TD short...he also has played in one extra game....this is only his second year in the nfl, and im sure that you claimed to have football "intelligence" and not to be some psychic....you cant say for sure that any of those RBs will have the same years....what happened to jamal lewis after his 2000 yard season? who was larry johnson last year?? what was mcgahee this year? im sure your "football intelligence" couldnt have predicted muhsin muhammad underachieving, and thomas jones hitting 1300 yards??? dont give that "i know football" shit...people like generally get shut up real quick i also noticed the absence of priest holmes...he not good enough for you?? 27 Tds in a season not enough "talent" for you??? in fact, i dont know where the hell you're getting you support for this crap...are you going according to this year, the previous years, or are you making predictions again?? what is it you're trying to state???
Larry Johnson last year was 3rd string, backing up Derrek Blaylock and Preist Holmes (whos career may be over, therefore I left him off my list)

Steven Jackson has shown more talent than Jordan, have you ever seen the guy run? its downright scary to think how good he will be in the future when the Rams have consistancy at quarterback and head coach.

Lamont gets 3.8 YPC, thats 33rd among running backs in the NFL, Steven Jackson is 14 slots higher with 4.1 YPC.

Jackson doesn't have as many touchdowns because TDs are a team thing, and the Rams team is devoted to passing to its WRs (Holt, Curtis and Bruce). The Raiders haven't had Moss healthy all year so Lamonts gotten more chances to punch it in when the raiders are down 30 points
 
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"Steven Jackson has shown more talent than Jordan, have you ever seen the guy run? its downright scary to think how good he will be in the future when the Rams have consistancy at quarterback and head coach."

no i dont get to see the rams games....i live in chicago so really they dont come up here, even though we're neighbors...so i havent seen him run...


" Jackson doesn't have as many touchdowns because TDs are a team thing"

im not sure what you mean there....the chiefs last year, set the record for the most amount of TDs scored in a year...but they still went 7-9, i believe...i doubt having marc bulger, an amazing QB, has anything to do with IMPROVING jackson's performance...if anything, like you said, it deducts from it...i said the before with lamont jordan, taht he was carrying moss's load in receiving...


"Larry Johnson last year was 3rd string, backing up Derrek Blaylock and Preist Holmes (whos career may be over, therefore I left him off my list)"

martin's career, i believe is just about over....but you still kept him on your list...priest's dad said that he wasnt gonna retire...but the chiefs are in a real dillemma with larry johnson stepping it up these past 10 games in holmes' absence....priest may not start next year, and that would be a wise choice...


pretty much, lamont and jackson are alike right now, in that they both had their breakout years this season...jackson is young, so he has a while to go...i guess i'll see him then...but this year, i woulda taken jordan over jackson...if i were to do a fantasy draft next year, i'd take lamont over jackson....
 

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