Poverty is not ended by financial aid.

[H.E. Pennypacker]

For the longest number of years, there have been campaigns to aid the poor and fundraisers for them. Why? Where are the poor now and how useful were those donations? The same poor people are probably still in the same place. Those donations may have given them a plate of food or something, but that's it.

Poor people don't need money, they need a healthy economy so that they can start working and doing their own thing.

First, begin with setting up a government. That will help structure the country.

Second, create a decent economy that is full of jobs. Ask Microsoft and WalMart (my two favorite companies) to send over jobs. Ask other companies to create jobs in poor countries.

Please stop these campaigns asking for money. I donate all the time. Its not that I am against donations. Its that I am asking campaigns that aren't helping that much. In the long run, they don't help.

 

[S O F I]

Sounds like Communism would help in this situation.

 

[CalcuoCuchicheo]

First, begin with setting up a government. That will help structure the country.

How? Conquer them?

Ask Microsoft and WalMart (my two favorite companies) to send over jobs. Ask other companies to create jobs in poor countries.

Why? So they can exploit the people & pay them a pittance?

 

[Zero Cool]

For the longest number of years, there have been campaigns to aid the poor and fundraisers for them. Why? Where are the poor now and how useful were those donations? The same poor people are probably still in the same place. Those donations may have given them a plate of food or something, but that's it.

Poor people don't need money, they need a healthy economy so that they can start working and doing their own thing.

First, begin with setting up a government. That will help structure the country.

Second, create a decent economy that is full of jobs. Ask Microsoft and WalMart (my two favorite companies) to send over jobs. Ask other companies to create jobs in poor countries.

Please stop these campaigns asking for money. I donate all the time. Its not that I am against donations. Its that I am asking campaigns that aren't helping that much. In the long run, they don't help.

It sounds like a combination of structural aid and sound government is needed in this situation. Much in the same way the United States aided Europe after World War II and helped to halt the communist threat.

 

[Duke]

Basically, he's right. The old story of giving the poor man a fish or giving them a fishing rod and teach them how to fish.

Easier said than done, however.

 

[THA WILD]

I would recommend reading chapters 5, and 7, of Larry Elder's The Ten Things You Can't Say In America.

 

[Amara]

For the longest number of years, there have been campaigns to aid the poor and fundraisers for them. Why? Where are the poor now and how useful were those donations? The same poor people are probably still in the same place. Those donations may have given them a plate of food or something, but that's it.

Poor people don't need money, they need a healthy economy so that they can start working and doing their own thing.

First, begin with setting up a government. That will help structure the country.

Second, create a decent economy that is full of jobs. Ask Microsoft and WalMart (my two favorite companies) to send over jobs. Ask other companies to create jobs in poor countries.

Please stop these campaigns asking for money. I donate all the time. Its not that I am against donations. Its that I am asking campaigns that aren't helping that much. In the long run, they don't help.

Sure, but you have to understand the totality of the situation. They are trying to set up governments and economies of their own in the third world... yet look at African states, for example - many are suffering internal conflict and violence... it is not so easy to simply 'set up' a government with warring factions. They are still feeling the effects of decolonisation... boundaries were drawn around people who didnt want to be together. Even if fortunate enough to set up a democratic process, is often hindered by assasination attempts and whatever. You need structure and stability first if a government is to be effective. you cannot impose a system... it must be eased in and imo, it has to be of that states own accord.

And in regards to the economy... you think they havent tried? The system is competitive. It is all too hard for third world countries to get ahead and lord knows, the first world isnt keen to compromise its economic stability to equalise. As for corporations, it is not viable, at least in this point in time to set up shop in a lot of third world countries... if its conflict driven, unstable, poverty stricken and lacking in skilled workers, it is not immediately profitable to go in, although perhaps it would be in humanitarian terms. You know what it is like in business - cost benefit analyses... here the costs outweigh the benefits (in financial terms anyway, like I said though it would be profitable for the betterment of humankind, what do corporations know about that though).

I guess that is why, short of establishing a trans-national social movement in favour of thrid world development (as many NGOs, like Oxfam try to do), the best we can do, for immediate relief is aid. A bit of food is what they need NOW, that is what we have to provide... anything more, whilst not exactly wishful thinking, is going to take some overhaul of first world ideals and priorities... hey, I'm up for it though!!

 

[Rukas]

“Give a man a fish; you have fed him for a day. Teach a man to fish; and you have fed him for a lifetime” Lao Tzu

 

[Khaled]

you're forgetting that it costs a lot to build a healthy economy

in poor countries, you need money for infrastructure and education
only this will draw foreign capital into the country. So in order to draw businesses into the third world, you mnust offer skilled labor, and at least limit political and economic risk.

 

[AmerikazMost]

Yes, that's what we need, to send more jobs overseas and let our own people go without work.

 

[Zero Cool]

Yes, that's what we need, to send more jobs overseas and let our own people go without work.

This is the excuse used almost the world over. Trust me, if "your people" really wanted jobs they'd find them. It's all too easy to blame immigrants or job exports for someone's unemployment when typically it's their laziness or unwillingness to take jobs below their "social status" which prohibits them from finding work.

 

[AmerikazMost]

This is the excuse used almost the world over. Trust me, if "your people" really wanted jobs they'd find them. It's all too easy to blame immigrants or job exports for someone's unemployment when typically it's their laziness or unwillingness to take jobs below their "social status" which prohibits them from finding work.

i never blame immigrants. i hate when people blame immigrants. i blame the companies.

 

[Illuminattile]

i never blame immigrants. i hate when people blame immigrants. i blame the companies.

Why should a company hire you when they can hire someone who'll work longer hours for less pay? Unskilled labour isn't exactly scarce. Beggars can't be choosers.

 

[AmerikazMost]

Why should a company hire you when they can hire someone who'll work longer hours for less pay? Unskilled labour isn't exactly scarce. Beggars can't be choosers.

that's exactly my feeling. i blame the government for not making restrictions, and i blame the companies for taking advantage of the 'oversights'

 

[XIAN]

that's exactly my feeling. i blame the government for not making restrictions, and i blame the companies for taking advantage of the 'oversights'

:thumb: :thumb:

 

[Valeoz]

For the longest number of years, there have been campaigns to aid the poor and fundraisers for them. Why? Where are the poor now and how useful were those donations? The same poor people are probably still in the same place. Those donations may have given them a plate of food or something, but that's it.

Poor people don't need money, they need a healthy economy so that they can start working and doing their own thing.

First, begin with setting up a government. That will help structure the country.

Second, create a decent economy that is full of jobs. Ask Microsoft and WalMart (my two favorite companies) to send over jobs. Ask other companies to create jobs in poor countries.

Please stop these campaigns asking for money. I donate all the time. Its not that I am against donations. Its that I am asking campaigns that aren't helping that much. In the long run, they don't help.

You are absolutely right. If our efforts are only directed at providing food, or improving food production or distribution, then the structural root causes that create hunger, poverty and dependency would still remain. But I believe it is more than an issue with that developing countries economy, it is more of the political system. As conditions causing poverty are political and end up being economic. I'm sure you are aware of that.