Paying ransom?

Preach

Well-Known Member
#1
I read about the two American couples that were kidnapped by African pirates, and then shot during a failed military rescue operation. The other day, a Danish couple with 3 children on a sail boat trip around the world were kidnapped outside by Somalian pirates.

The Danish government aren't commenting on what measures they are taking, and I'm not sure what the US stance on the kidnapped couples were, but apparently the Danish government aren't considering paying the ransom. I guess it has to do with the presedence it sets for the future, the repercussions it might have for future kidnappings, but I really don't get it. Government officials are indirectly electing to have their own countrymen killed. It seems way more gruesome considering the fact that there's three children who are all very young.

On a larger scale it makes me think of how many governments refuse to negotiate with terrorists, but this seems kinda different to me. Muslim extremists have kidnapped people and executed them as some kind of demonstration of power or will, but I thought pirates were about booty lol. Jokes aside, I'm ignorant to African pirates, but the way I see it they aren't fighting a political agenda so whether the family is killed or not shouldn't matter to them, but receiving a ransom would probably be in their interest, right?

I just wanted to hear people's take on it. Obviously the compassionate side of any human being agrees that the ransom should be paid; I would like to hear some thought-out arguments against. In the failed military operation, I got the impression the two couples were executed while the military borded the ship, and all the pirates were either killed or captured. They don't seem to be very smart, or to be thinking far ahead, so I don't buy really buy the simple argument that these incidents will occur more frequently if paying ransom becomes a habit. On the contrary, leaving a family (and children) to be executed by pirates would probably make me lose faith in my Norwegian government (which I kinda have, anyway).
 

S O F I

Administrator
Staff member
#2
I think the main difference is that these couples who get kidnapped are warned by their respective governments about the high risks of kidnapping in the "Horn of Africa". Yet, they do it anyway. It's like, "I told you that you could get kidnapped and you didn't listen. Now we're expected to shell out taxpayers' money to pay for the kidnapping because you wanted to luxuriously sail the waters and see the world."
 

_carmi

me, myself & us
#3
^doesn't mean they shouldn't pay the ransom to save these citizens. that's setting up someone to their own death. governments are "supposed" to protect their citizens. there must be some measures that can be taken to prevent such situations or at least try to get the hostages back safely.
 

S O F I

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Staff member
#4
^They set themselves up. By your logic, if you walked out of my house and went to Compton and got gang-raped by Deebo and the Gang, it would be my fault. It's not my fault you were in Compton. I warned you about Deebo and his big penis.
 

Flipmo

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#5
Wouldn't save em. It's different if it was people that were there working as some kind of relief association and they were kidnapped. But, if you're looking at people who wanted to travel there, ignored the warnings which are everywhere and went there on some kind of adventure to tempt chance, well, think of the kidnapping as part of the adventure. lol
 

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