My heart-felt message for Herm Edwards as he leaves for KC

#2
has anything been cofirmed on this? in yesterday's paper it said KC wanted permission to talk to Herm, but that they didn't know if the Jets would let them or not
 

AmerikazMost

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#3
^ he's probably going to go. i wish vermeil stayed though. it'd be nice to see what larry johnson could do in a full season of his offense
 

AmerikazMost

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#5
Devious187 said:
^^^you don't think Herm will let him start? He'd be crazy not to at least split the duties between Priest and Larry
nah, it's not that, but herm's offense might not be as advantageous to LJ as vermeil's was. bank would know better though. i didn't watch the jets enough to know.
 

Butt Rubber

More arrogant than SicC
#8
Devious187 said:
Well Lamont is good, but he's no Larry Johnson. But I get your point. RIP to the Chiefs 2006-07 season
exactly

Apparently the only thing keeping him from leaving is the compensation that the Chiefs would give the Jets (draft picks)
 

Butt Rubber

More arrogant than SicC
#9
WFAN in New York is reporting that Herm Edwards is out as Jets coach. It could become official as early as tonight. The Chiefs and Jets are currently negotiating draft picks as compensation.
According to WFAN's Mike Francesa, Jets owner Woody Johnson is tired of Edwards asking for a contract extension. The team also reportedly isn't happy about some recent leaks to the media. Rumors say that Johnson will let his coach go for a third and fifth round draft pick. That said, it's not good news for a Jets franchise that is already having roster and morale problems. Defensive coordinator Donnie Henderson and offensive coordinator Mike Heimerdinger are both likely candidates to replace Herm. Jan. 4 - 5:23 pm et
 

Butt Rubber

More arrogant than SicC
#14
AmerikazMost said:
no, i knew all year, but it keeps getting worse and worse
Okay, I didn't want to do this. I REALLY didn't but you've left me no option.

Why is herm leaving good news for the Jets?

The Life of a Jets fan: Herm Edwards era

herm took over a team with a veteran 3-4 defense, and hires a DC (Ted Cotrell) whose specialty is the 3-4, & inserts a 4-man front, cover-2 base package that was successful in Tampa Bay (never considering that TB had 4-5 defensive pro-bowlers and two pro-bowl RB’s to keep them off the field).

Though the offense had an immobile pocket passer who missed the ’99 season with a ruptured Achilles tendon, and comparatively smurf-like WR’s (Chrebet, Coles, Moss), shifted the team to a west-coast offense under Paul Hackett (who had just been fired for running the USC program into the ground after 3 years, after being fired as the maddening OC of the Chiefs).

After an 8.5 sack rookie season, decided to move huge, future-pro-bowl DE Shaun Ellis to DT, where he became a small, pushed-around DT; a colossal flop.

When his starting RB had two (two!) BAD high ankle sprains he would not sit him out for so much as one entire non-garbage-time possession for the entire season.

’03 season: With Pennington injured with a broken wrist to start the ’03 season does not alter the offensive playbook one iota for his immobile backup (Vinny). Herm also decided that the only RB on the team with breakaway speed (Jordan) will now be relegated to goal-line & short-yardage duty. Never mind that he’s a “RB with power” rather than a “power RB.” This is also ANNOUNCED, so any opponent who sees him come into the game (when it’s not garbage-time) is fully aware that the next play will be a handoff to Jordan (more than half his year’s carries were in 2-3 TE sets). On the year, a staggering 87% of the RB carries (including garbage time) went to Curtis Martin so he could amass 1300 yards. By comparison, Jamal Lewis with over 2000 yards got 81%; Ahman Green & with almost 1900 yards, 75%. Santana Moss starts the year buried behind Wayne Chrebet and Coles-replacement Curtis Conway. No amount of dropped balls gets Conway out of the starting lineup. Only an injury. Once he was finally given the chance, Moss explodes like we all hoped he would be when we traded up to draft him two years earlier, for 1100 yards & 10 TD’s despite only starting 12 games. Numbers not to be approached again until traded away from Edwards.

In Herm’s marquis season, 2004, the Jets are given the gift of the easiest schedule to start the season in recent memory & do win all 5 of those games, including the Bengals (in Carson Palmer’s first NFL start); the Chargers (1 game removed from the NFL’s worst team & 2 weeks removed from considering starting rookie Phillip Rivers at QB for the season); the 4-12 Dolphins (with no line, no RB’s, and a QB controversy in full swing); the then 0-3 Bills; and the 2-14 49ers. Those teams’ combined record at the time of their games with the Jets was 1-11 (1-16 after the losses to the Jets). Despite the favorable outcomes, nearly blew the games against the Bengals, Chargers, Bills, and even let the hapless 49’ers get out to a 14-0 lead. With Quincy Carter starting effectively and the OL mauling the vaunted Ravens rush defense, the Jets take commanding control of this game, only to watch Hackett/Edwards foolishly (and needlessly) attempt a HB option that is intercepted & returned for a TD while the Jets were driving into Ravens territory. The same game Edwards is caught on camera having “clock guru” Dick Curl telling him how many timeouts we had & when they were to be used; Pennington coaching Herm to instruct Carter on what to do; the clock-killing debacle where Edwards can’t come up with a single play on his own at the end of regulation that put us in a position to have to choose between a play or a FG even though it wasn’t 4th down; also shots of the Ravens’ booth repeatedly & correctly predicting what play would be called as the 4th quarter wound down. In the post-game press conference, Edwards initially lies about a play being relayed to Carter with adequate time, to shift the blame onto the player, before retracting it upon realizing the replay of the game on NFL network showed the polar opposite. After beating the 4-12 Browns, 6-10 Cardinals, and 7-9 Texans, the Jets faced the Steelers and failed to score a touchdown as Jordan is stubbornly kept on the sideline despite Martin’s game-long ineffectiveness. (The average opponent scored ~16ppg against the Steelers; the Jets offense managed 12 pts in 2 games). In the playoffs, the Jets failed to score a single offensive touchdown against Pittsburgh (again). The defense & special teams keeps the Jets in the game and are in a position to win it with a field goal despite just missing one the previous possession. With the clock winding down, the Jets decide to predictably run up the middle twice (and get stuffed both times) before Edwards comes up with his crowning achievement as decision-maker. Though at Heinz Field, the worst place to kick a FG in the country, and a weak-legged kicker who just missed from 40+ yards, it is decided that a 41-yard FG is to actually be made into a 43-yard FG on purpose by kneeling on the ball (which would have been the longest FG ever made at Heinz Field at the time). Doug Brien misses, Jets lose.

But, you say, the Jets made the playoffs 3 of 5 years with Herm!!!!! How?

2001: Eked out 1-point victories vs the Bengals (6-10), Colts (6-10, who they also lost to), and Panthers (1-15) and a 6-pt win vs the 3-13 Bills before losing to those same Bills in a win-and-we’re-in game 15. Made the playoffs on a 53-yd FG in Oakland in the last game when Janikowski was injured & unavailable. Impressive?

2002: Chad Pennington had a magical season and almost single-handedly brought the Jets back from the dead, throwing 22 TD’s to 6 INT’s and going 8-4 in his regular season starts (including the two blown games vs Cleveland & KC when the Herm tried to run out the clock in the 3rd quarter). With the Jets in control of their own destiny, lost to the (then) 3-10 Chicago Bears. Thanks to an improbable outcome in the last game between Miami/NE, the Jets won a 3-way tie-breaker as all 3 teams ended up 9-7. Jets win the division. Impressive?

2004: See above for the dominance of our 5-0 start. Lost 3 of their next 4 once we stopped playing automatic-win games. Then after beating the 4-12 Browns, 6-10 Cardinals, and 7-9 Texans, the Herm Edwards Jets would again lose 3 of their next 4 games, including blowout losses to the Pats & Steelers & then the 7-8 Rams. A Buffalo loss to the Steelers 2nd & 3rd-stringers allows the Jets to advance to the post-season anyway. Impressive?

It doesn’t sound all that impressive put this way, does it? It wasn’t impressive for us to watch. Inherited a team that went 9-7 behind a bad coach that the players despised (Al Groh). He's leaving now that we're in this current mess & isn't getting his requested raise or an extension after going 4-12.

Good riddance.

Kansas City, enjoy our retard.
 

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