Technology Mac vs PC for audio.

#1
Dante said:
9 out of 10 studios use macs. maybe there's a reason for that?
Dave D said:
Correction, ALL PROFESIONAL studios use macs. If its PC then its not professional.
since the thread in which the above comments were posted in is now closed, i would like to offer my thoughts on this topic (expanding on "another fucking mac user. how i despise them").

here are commonly held views on why macs are preferred in studios:
1*they do not get viruses
2*they do not crash
3*they are faster

first of all, i dont really dispute the first two, since i have never had problems with macs when i have used them (i do not regularly use macs).
however,

1* if you are planning to use a workstation computer as the centre of your studio or as an integral part, you would favourably do little else than engage in audio-related tasks. with this in mind, a PC should never get a virus. If you are using your workstation for unrelated work (unessential internet browsing, filesharing etc) then by no means is your 'studio' 'professional'. a professional studio will concern itself with just audio.

2* i admit i have not seen a mac crash, but then again i do not operate them enough to put them under conditions which might spark such a breakdown. the reality is, though, that Windows XP is extremely stable, and, as aforementioned, if your workstation is concerned with audio, you will not install unnecessary programs, and will tweak the system to best handle the operations you desire. i have 3 computers running XP in my home, including a dedicated audio workstation. none have ever crashed.

3* i dont know how true this is anymore, considering the progress in technology developed for both platforms. both are capable of 64-bit processing now and it seems both mac and PC are quite capable of hosting most configurations of audio plugins and programs.
if a particular mac is faster than a particular PC, it is reasonable to think it could run, say, 3 more instances of plugin x than the PC.
but remember, we are talking about studios, and professional setups are equipped with at least one audio DSP card, which is made to handle the processing of audio tasks beyond the CPU's ability. a minor difference in system speed? - who gives a fuck.

software wise, there are exclusive programs for both PC and mac, and most hardware is cross-platform.
ease of use - who can't operate a start menu? once you get used to either system, fluid use results naturally.
modifiability - no contest. PC.

it is true that studios (and most other media-centred environments) use macs instead of PCs. but this is only so because people see macs being used in these settings and follow lead. oh, and they might look a bit cooler....:rolleyes:

with proper use, neither system is better than the other.

please share your opinions on the Mac vs PC issue. :)
 
#2
People sometimes forget that a PC is not neccessarily windows only. Yea windows might hold the largest market share,but that doesn't mean you can ignore other OSes like linux,BeOS,Solaris. As a matter a fact,everyone on the net always uses linux because almost half of the internet servers run on linux.

Now going back as to why professionals and studios use macs. The answer to that is its simplicity and eye candy. I'll admit,the mac os and user interface are simply good looking. If you put me in a video editing studio right now,and had me choose either final cut pro on the mac, or adobe premiere on windows, hell yea i want final cut pro. Because when i'm working, I want to be a big retard, I don't want to think. I want big ass buttons that say press this to do this,I don't want to go into a million sub menu links to finally get there.Studios don't want to waste time and money training employees on something that takes forever to learn.

Now about the hardware, really, there is no difference in hardware. All components are the same. The mac doesn't have some super leet hardware. What do you got, the cpu,the ram,the video card,the hard drive,etc... Hell, the only thing that prevents me from buying a copy of mac os and installing it legally on my PC that i'm using right now is a security chip that macs have that enables the installation to proceed. But that's already cracked,all i need is to download a patch and away i go with installing and running mac os natively on my PC.

As far as games go, windows holds the crown. Game developpers are in it for the money, right?. So why the hell would they spend so much time and money coding games for an os that holds a %5 market share? It's only logical to create the games for an OS that most computer users own and use. As if windows is some holy piece of ones and zeroes.
 

S. Fourteen

Well-Known Member
#3
I want to be a big retard, I don't want to think.
Did you really have to do that?

My friend's dad is a chief engineer for Cisco and he stands behind macs.

But that doesn't have anything to do with Audio so I will go away and keep using my better computer.
 

PuffnScruff

Well-Known Member
#4
all i am going to say is that this comment
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave D
Correction, ALL PROFESIONAL studios use macs. If its PC then its not professional

is not only ignorant but is just the dumbest thing i have ever read when it comes to pro studios.
 
#6
^^ i was going to ask about gaming....so im guessing what i heard before that most macs dont have games in their format is true....

my friend has a mac, but i havent used it much...the little row of icons on the bottom of the screen is kinda interesting...
 
#7
tennis_dog said:
my friend has a mac, but i havent used it much...the little row of icons on the bottom of the screen is kinda interesting...
the dock isn't only a mac thing. you can get it on any os. i have one on my linux desktop

 
#8
hey bigmack, i haven't really kept up with the news on that Mac on PC thing. is it stable yet?
btw, nice wallpaper.:cool:

Dante said:
when windoze clowns stop worrying about gaming, then they can grow into adulthood and buy macs.
i was expecting something better than that dante :rolleyes:
 
#9
Hymnz said:
hey bigmack, i haven't really kept up with the news on that Mac on PC thing. is it stable yet?
btw, nice wallpaper.:cool:
you mean the dock at the bottom? yea it's stable,works perfectly. The one i use is called kooldock for the KDE GUI on linux. For windows i'm not sure which one is good. a simple google search lead me to this site,try it out

http://home.cogeco.ca/~rklauncher/
 

Salar

The One, The Only
#11
When it comes down to Audio... Logic pro is simply amazing. I've got a few audio engineer friends that say that using thousands of programs, logic is simply second to none.

But it all boils down to user preference.

In regards to final cut vs adobe premier
overall FCP is much quicker. The learning curve for both of them is equal... you have to know your shit when using both. Can't be a 'retard' to use either. Plus everyone will tell you that premier is a pile of shite anyway and the only thing that comes close to FCP on the PC side of things is AVID. But industry standard for video editing has become FCP for a simple reason. It's the best software package out there for video when you bring it down to the nitty gritty.
This said. PC's are cheaper... the software is easier to get if your a pirate bunny etc. If you want quality then you pay the extra dollars for a mac. If your happy with just things being done then by all means go for the PC option. Save a pretty penny too.

I love my macs. I used PC's for 20 years before i discovered the magic of a mac. And it took abou a month of getting used to but i swear by it now. And now that mac has switched to intel chips and with software like bootcamp i can run windows and linux on it as well if i need it. But OSX is just something else.
 
#12
bigmack said:
you mean the dock at the bottom?
nah i meant the whole thing about running Mac OSs on any ole PC.:woah:

that bar thing is fucking awesome though. im gonna find the best emulation for Windows and get that. RK Launcher looks cool.
apparently, there is also
ObjectDock
RocketDock
Y'z Dock
MobyDock

im gonna try them all out and see...:thumb:
 

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