Levee Repair

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Saturday, September 03, 2005

Bush faked levee repair for photo op yesterday
by John in DC - 9/03/2005 06:29:00 PM



From a press release LA Senator Mary Landrieu sent out today:
But perhaps the greatest disappointment stands at the breached 17th Street levee. Touring this critical site yesterday with the President, I saw what I believed to be a real and significant effort to get a handle on a major cause of this catastrophe. Flying over this critical spot again this morning, less than 24 hours later, it became apparent that yesterday we witnessed a hastily prepared stage set for a Presidential photo opportunity; and the desperately needed resources we saw were this morning reduced to a single, lonely piece of equipment. The good and decent people of southeast Louisiana and the Gulf Coast - black and white, rich and poor, young annd old - deserve far better from their national governmeent.

http://americablog.blogspot.com/2005/09/bush-faked-levee-repair-for-photo-op.html
 
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Bush faked levee repair for photo op yesterday

I did not even think about it till reading this, why are they trying to fix the Levee before they get the damn people out and shit??

FUCK I wish people would WAKE THE FUCK UP!
 

The.Menace

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Bush faked levee repair for photo op yesterday

Well before they can actually pump the water out they'll have to repair that thing. I saw it on TV yesterday - one digger was workin and the Senator shed a tear while seein that.
 

The.Menace

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Bush faked levee repair for photo op yesterday

I just read that after GWBush did accept internatinal help that 55 countries actually did offer help. 55 countries! Why was he too proud to ask for help the first 4 days??
 

Duke

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Bush faked levee repair for photo op yesterday

The.Menace said:
I just read that after GWBush did accept internatinal help that 55 countries actually did offer help. 55 countries! Why was he too proud to ask for help the first 4 days??
You're actually asking? :confused:
 

PuffnScruff

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Bush faked levee repair for photo op yesterday

actually we have accepted help from other countries. maybe not physical help but we have taken their money in donations.

the levee has to be repaired before you can pump out the water. that should be common sense. and i see a senator that knows alot of blame may be coming her way and doesnt want it all seeing as how this could hurt her being re-elected.
 

Glockmatic

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Bush faked levee repair for photo op yesterday

the US is taking aid like medicine and food now. Canada is sending our stock medicine and equipment to the affected areas and 3 warships filled with supplies and 1000 soldiers are leaving Halifax on tuesday.
 

The.Menace

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Bush faked levee repair for photo op yesterday

actually we have accepted help from other countries. maybe not physical help but we have taken their money in donations.
maybe, but what actually the people in NO would have needed in the first week would have been phyiscal help, troops. If Bush had asked for help the first day, from day 3 on troops from other countries would have been there - and then I garantue people wouldn't have waited a week for evacuation.

I don't know. I don't want to udnerstand. "the Us takin aid now" - after maybe 100s or more died from not having food and water or died in the chaos somehow. Bush's ego killed people. Right down there in NO. That is the truth.
 
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Bush faked levee repair for photo op yesterday

physical help as well... belgian, polish and mexican army troops are already at the scene.
 
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Bush faked levee repair for photo op yesterday

Baukem said:
physical help as well... belgian, polish and mexican army troops are already at the scene.
Already?

the water did not have to be pumped out to get people out.

that is my point, that is my problem.
 

PuffnScruff

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You think President Bush cut funding to the leeve repair?

people always forget to look at the adminstration before the current one. It's not all Bush's fault.
http://www.baltimorereporter.com/?p=1290[URL=eptember%2029,%202000
February 17, 1995

An Army Corps of Engineers “hit list” of recommended budget cuts would eliminate new flood-control programs in some of the nation’s most flood-prone spots - where recent disasters have left thousands homeless and cost the federal government millions in emergency aid.

Clinton administration officials argue that the flood-control efforts are local projects, not national, and should be paid for by local taxes.

Nationwide, the administration proposes cutting 98 new projects in 35 states and Puerto Rico, for an estimated savings of $29 million in 1996.

Corps officials freely conceded the cuts, which represent only a small portion of savings the corps ultimately must make, may be penny-wise and pound-foolish. But they said they were forced to eliminate some services the corps has historically provided to taxpayers to meet the administration’s budget-cutting goals.

June 23, 1995

A hurricane project, approved and financed since 1965, to protect more than 140,000 West Bank residents east of the Harvey Canal is in jeopardy.

The Clinton administration is holding back a Corps of Engineers report recommending that the $120 million project proceed. Unless that report is forwarded to the Office of Management and Budget, Congress cannot authorize money for the project, U.S. Rep. William Jefferson’s office said Thursday.

On June 9, John Zirschky, the acting assistant secretary of the Army and the official who refused to forward the report, sent a memo to the corps, saying the recommendation for the project “is not consistent with the policies and budget priorities reflected in the President’s Fiscal Year 1996 budget. Accordingly, I will not forward the report to the Office of Management and Budget for clearance.”

July 26, 1996

The House voted Thursday for a $19.4 billion energy and water bill that provides $246 million for Army Corps of Engineers projects in Louisiana.

The bill, approved 391-23, is the last of the 13 annual spending measures for 1997 approved by the House.

One area in which the House approved more financing than the president requested was for flood control and maintenance of harbors and shipping routes by the Army Corps of Engineers.

Flood control projects along the Mississippi River and its tributaries were allotted $303 million, or $10 million more than the president wanted.

June 19, 1996

The Army Corps of Engineers, which builds most flood protection levees on a federal-local cost-sharing basis, uses a cost-benefit ratio to justify a project. If the cost of building a levee is considered less than the cost of restoring a flood-ravaged area, the project is more likely to be approved.

For years, the Jean Lafitte-Lower Lafitte-Barataria-Crown Point areas couldn’t convince the corps they were worthy of levee protection. But the use of Section 205 and congressional pressure has given the corps a new perspective, Spohrer said.

But even so, when the Clinton administration began to curtail spending on flood control and other projects a year ago, the corps stopped spending on Section 205 projects even after deciding to do a $70,000 preliminary Jean Lafitte study, Spohrer said.

July 22, 1999

In passing a $20.2 billion spending bill this week for water and energy projects, the House Appropriations Committee approved some significant increases in financing for several New Orleans area flood control and navigational projects.

The spending bill is expected on the House floor within the next two weeks.

For the New Orleans District of the Army Corps of Engineers, the panel allocated $106 million for construction projects, about $16 million more than proposed by President Clinton.

The bill would provide $47 million for “southeast Louisiana flood control projects,” $16 million for “Lake Pontchartrain and vicinity hurricane protection,” $15.9 million for the Inner Harbor Navigation Canal Lock on the Industrial Canal in New Orleans and $2 million for “West Bank hurricane protection — from New Orleans to Venice.”

Most of the projects received significant increases over what the Clinton administration had proposed. The exception: general flood control projects for southeast Louisiana, which remained at the $47 million suggested by Clinton. Local officials had hoped for double that amount.

February 8, 2000

For the metropolitan New Orleans area, Clinton’s budget was seen as a mixed bag by local lawmakers and government officials. For instance, while Clinton called for $1.5 billion to be spent at Avondale Industries to continue building LPD-17 landing craft, his budget calls for significantly less than what Congress appropriated last year for Lake Pontchartrain and vicinity hurricane protection and for West Bank flood control projects.

September 29, 2000

The House approved Thursday a $23.6 billion measure for water and energy programs, with sizable increases for several New Orleans area flood-control projects. The Senate will vote Monday, but it may be a while before the bill is enacted.

President Clinton is promising to veto the annual appropriation for the Energy Department and Army Corps of Engineers, not because it is $890 million larger than he proposed, but because it does not include a plan to alter the levels of the Missouri River to protect endangered fish and birds.

May 8, 2005 (extra)

Ten years ago today, the Bonneaus and hundreds of thousands of New Orleans area residents rode out a rain unlike any they had ever experienced. The flood killed six people and generated more claims than any in the history of the National Flood Insurance Program. In its aftermath, Congress created a new role for the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, and federal and local governments spent more than a half-billion dollars to widen and line drainage canals, bury culverts bigger than cars and beef up pumping stations.

But not even those improvements could prevent massive flooding if a storm of similar intensity were to strike today.
And I will agree with GEA3 at Eu Rota, that the above should not be a slam against Clinton, just showing the hypocrisy of those on the left who want to blame everything and anything on Bush.
 

AmerikazMost

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You think President Bush cut funding to the leeve repair?

lmao

sorry Puff, but you're not going to pass this off as evidence that Clinton had the same cuts

Comparisons between Clinton's proposals on the said date versus Bush's

February 17, 1995
Clinton's proposed cut: $29 million for 98 projects ($0.296 million per project)
Bush's proposed cut: $18.6 million for 1 project ($18.6 million per project)

June 23, 1995
No information about how much it finally passed for I see. Just the part about Clinton opposing it.

July 26, 1996
Clinton's proposed cut: $10 million less for the entire MS River
Bush's proposed cut: $18.6 million for one city on the MS River

July 22, 1999
The passage itself is misleading. It tells you all the money that New Orleans got for flood control and then immediately says that almost every project receieved significantly more than what he proposed. It fails to acknowledge that "every project" includes more than just flood control, leading the reader to believe that all the "under fundings" were for the flood control. $80.9 million dollars of the $106 million were used for flood control. The passage fails to acknowledge that some of the icnreases made by Congress could have been in the $25 million not used for flooding.

September 29, 2000
Clinton's opposition has nothing to do with flooding. It doesn't even have anything to do with New Orleans.


"Increases" in the first paragraph doesn't mean Clinton cut funds, it just means that Congress felt it needed more than what was proposed. Bush actually proposed cuts.
 

The.Menace

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Bush faked levee repair for photo op yesterday

'Already' is a joke, but again, the US didn't ask earlier for help, it's not their fault!
 
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Bush faked levee repair for photo op yesterday

Incase You Didnt Know, Alot Of The Roads Were Fucked, Its Not Easy To Get 1000 People Out Of A City With No Road. Not Only That, We All Know Bush Has Time Issues, Remember 9/11? Sittin In A Muthafuckin Classroom N Shit While Bin Laden Babies Flying Planes Into Buildings N Shit. No Surprises There...
 

The.Menace

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Incase You Didnt Know, Alot Of The Roads Were Fucked, Its Not Easy To Get 1000 People Out Of A City With No Road
It's not that easy, I agree, but still they did a very poor job.
 

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