Keanes Future at United in doubt?

[k69atie]

Roy Keane's future at Manchester United could be in doubt after the the plug was pulled on comments he made to the club's TV channel.

Keane is understood to have blown his top after United's 4-1 humiliation at the hands of Middlesbrough on Saturday.

But his contribution, which formed part of the MUTV channel's regular Plays The Pundit programme, never went out after manager Sir Alex Ferguson and chief executive David Gill binned the interview.

It is under lock and key at the club and the contents are not known.

But it is reported that Keane slated several players, saying they were not good enough for the club.

They included England defender Rio Ferdinand, who is currently experiencing a dip in form, along with the club's younger players Darren Fletcher, Kieran Richardson, Liam Miller, Ireland team-mate John O'Shea and his potentional replacement Alan Smith.

Keane, who is recovering from a broken foot, is reported to have said that the attitude of one of the players had "stunk".

United officials offered no comment on why the interview was cut and sources close to Keane claimed no knowledge of the editorial decision.

The 34-year-old, who has hinted that this season will be his last at Old Trafford, has previously used the MUTV platform to condemn the attitude of some younger members of the United squad.

Keane's rants have become a regular part of the United season, especially when the team are struggling in the league.

But it is the first time he has named names - and it is the first time he has clashed with boss Ferguson on the issue.

 

[tHuG $TyLe]

Agreed with: Fletcher, O'Shea and Miller

Not sure about Richardson and Smith

Ferdinand? wtf hes in bad form but is still quality.

 

[Jibster]

^^^You've gotta remember he's not criticisin their ability, he's critiscisin their attitude.

I'm not a Man Utd fan but you can see that some players think that just cos they're at Utd they have made it and as a result have become complacent.

I used to be a big Ferdinand fan but he's so overrated now it's getting silly, he's barely in the top 5 Premiership defenders if you ask me and only got himself to blame.

Richardson has looked lazy this season, seems that cos he's broken into the England team (how?) and is playin left back for MUFC he's done it all.

Fletcher. Not a great deal to say about him except that he's not even Scotland's best player which means he's gotta be average at best.

Haven't seen a great deal of Miller so can't comment but criticisin Smith is harsh as he's tryin to adapt to a new role.

 

[stefanwzyga]

Fletcher. Not a great deal to say about him except that he's not even Scotland's best player which means he's gotta be average at best.

What you trying to say like? The funny thing is he probally is our best player!!

I agree with keano, the players he mentioned probally aint man u class.

Obviously not rio though.

 

[2Pax]

I used to be a big Ferdinand fan but he's so overrated now it's getting silly, he's barely in the top 5 Premiership defenders if you ask me and only got himself to blame.

You wanna talk about over-rated defenders, let's talk about John Terry.

 

[Jibster]

You wanna talk about over-rated defenders, let's talk about John Terry.

lol, how is Terry overrated? No-ones paid a ridiculous (£30mill) transfer for him.

I don't think i've ever seen Terry play worse than 7 outta 10, o consistent, scores goals, brave, good tackler, incredible heading.

Easily England's best defender and a masive reason for Chelsea's ddefensive record.

And before you start sayin i'm bias, i'm a Blackpool fan and have no preference with regards to a Premiership team.

 

[2Pax]

lol, how is Terry overrated? No-ones paid a ridiculous (£30mill) transfer for him.

I don't think i've ever seen Terry play worse than 7 outta 10, o consistent, scores goals, brave, good tackler, incredible heading.

Easily England's best defender and a masive reason for Chelsea's ddefensive record.

And before you start sayin i'm bias, i'm a Blackpool fan and have no preference with regards to a Premiership team.

Terry is an average defender at best, he's always making mistakes just like other defenders do but the media turns a blind eye because they're on his nut sack. And Chelsea's defensive record is mostly because of Cech.
As for Englands best defender, I doubt it. Where was he at the last World Cup when Ferdinand and Campbell were Englands rocks. Then suddenly Chelsea spend millions, win the premiership and Terry's in the limelight.

 

[Jibster]

Terry is an average defender at best, he's always making mistakes just like other defenders do but the media turns a blind eye because they're on his nut sack. And Chelsea's defensive record is mostly because of Cech.
As for Englands best defender, I doubt it. Where was he at the last World Cup when Ferdinand and Campbell were Englands rocks. Then suddenly Chelsea spend millions, win the premiership and Terry's in the limelight.

lol, Man Utd fan i guess?

First off, give me examples of Terry mistakes and for every one you find i'll give you 2 for Rio.

Where was he at the last World Cup? You mean the one 4 years ago? He wasn't considered due to him assaulting a nightclub bouncer, remember that? He was on the fringes of the England team aged 22 anyhow.
That's a daft argument. Like saying Rooney isn't as good as Heskey cos Rooney wasn't at the last World Cup. Stupid comment.

Cech has played a big part, i agree, as has Makalele, but how busy is Cech most games? Not very, because Terry gets them organised and defends well before Cech even comes into the equation.

Please lose the bitter Man Utd perspective and come again. :thumb:

 

[2Pax]

lol, Man Utd fan i guess?

First off, give me examples of Terry mistakes and for every one you find i'll give you 2 for Rio.

Where was he at the last World Cup? You mean the one 4 years ago? He wasn't considered due to him assaulting a nightclub bouncer, remember that? He was on the fringes of the England team aged 22 anyhow.
That's a daft argument. Like saying Rooney isn't as good as Heskey cos Rooney wasn't at the last World Cup. Stupid comment.

Cech has played a big part, i agree, as has Makalele, but how busy is Cech most games? Not very, because Terry gets them organised and defends well before Cech even comes into the equation.

Please lose the bitter Man Utd perspective and come again. :thumb:

Ferdinand is going through a bad patch at the moment but who has been the better defender over the years?

Terry's assault on a nightclub bouncer effects his talent how? It doesn't, you can't use this as an excuse. Or how Christiano Ronaldo wasn't chosen for United when the rape emerged .... oh wait he was chosen. Don't try to use things that happen off the pitch as an excuse, just admit i'm right ;as soon as Chelsea blew up, Terry blew up.

Wayne Rooney wasn't at the last World Cup because he was 16 years old.

Cech is fairly busy as are most keepers most of the time, how else do you think we'd see some of the great saves he makes.

 

[Jibster]

Ferdinand is going through a bad patch at the moment but who has been the better defender over the years?

Terry's assault on a nightclub bouncer effects his talent how? It doesn't, you can't use this as an excuse. Or how Christiano Ronaldo wasn't chosen for United when the rape emerged .... oh wait he was chosen. Don't try to use things that happen off the pitch as an excuse, just admit i'm right ;as soon as Chelsea blew up, Terry blew up.

Wayne Rooney wasn't at the last World Cup because he was 16 years old.

Cech is fairly busy as are most keepers most of the time, how else do you think we'd see some of the great saves he makes.

1. It excuses him as the FA wouldn't consider him with a police charge over his head.

2. No evidence of Terry's mistakes to back up your claims.

3. No case to answer.

 

[2Pax]

1. It excuses him as the FA wouldn't consider him with a police charge over his head.

2. No evidence of Terry's mistakes to back up your claims.

3. No case to answer.

1. Still not the point, nobody noticed his skills at club level.

2. Sorry when I watch a game I don't usually write down every mistake someone makes.

3. Come on you can do better than that mate.

 

[Jibster]

1. Still not the point, nobody noticed his skills at club level.

2. Sorry when I watch a game I don't usually write down every mistake someone makes.

3. Come on you can do better than that mate.

1. He would have been considered, apart from the FA said he couldn't be. Surely being cosidered is recognition of good club form? You didn't notice, many others did. :thumb:

2. Can't remember any off the top of you head? I thought he was "always making mstakes", no need for written records, surely? :s

3. You can only beat what is in front of you.

I'm done on this topic unless someone else cares to share their view of the subject.

 

[tHuG $TyLe]

Yes..Terry is overrated he is a good defender but not what people make him out to be. On an International stage he makes mistakes, i.e few during the qualifiers.

Makelele cuts out most of the troubles for Chelsea, without no Makelele you would see how overrated Terry actually is.

 

[Illuminattile]

Sorry to go off-topic, but on the subject of Roy Keane...

If he really wanted what was best for the club the he would have retired last season, if not the season before. Since then SAF's had to built the team around him and try to protect him in the centre of midfield.

That said, SAF was an idiot for not bringing in a quality replacement earlier. Wasted money on Djemba-Djemba and Kleberson when he should have gone for Van Bommel, Edgar Davids or Scott Parker.

 

[Hymnz]

davids sucks.^^^

but whatever, some people think he is still world class. he has lost his form in my professional opinion

 

[k69atie]

Ruud van Nistelrooy feels Roy Keane should not be castigated for his stinging criticism of sections of Manchester United's squad.

United's season has dipped markedly in the last week, with losses to Middlesbrough and Lille leaving The Red Devils in trouble both domestically and in Europe.

On-field problems are mirrored off the field, as an interview with Keane to the club's television channel, MUTV, reportedly had to be pulled due to its content being overly critical of sections of the squad.

The Irishman is believed to have pulled no punches in the interview, which prompted manager Sir Alex Ferguson to air the tape to the players in a bid to ease the tension.

Keane is unlikely to change his stance and Dutch international van Nistelrooy claims there is no problem with the club's captain being forthright in his opinions.

"It is good to have people who say what they feel because they care about the club," van Nistelrooy told The Sun.

The Dutch striker is looking for the players to heed Keane's words and attempt to improve the situation.

"When criticism is there you can be angry about it or think about it and whether it is true or not," he added. "Then you take something from it and use it."

Van Nistelrooy has struggled for goals in recent weeks and he admits to being frustrated by a lack of service.

"This is the most difficult time I can remember at the club," admitted the former PSV Eindhoven man. "We are not playing well.

"When I joined the club I used to get four or five chances in every game.

"There used to be a constant stream of service. Our attacking play used to be great and I enjoyed it. Now it is different.

"The question is, can those days come back? It's what we all want."

 

[2Pax]

Ruud's got a point though, Keane's a legend and is used to winning silverware, and when he see's performances like against Boro who can blame him.

United are playing terrible at the moment, the Chelsea game this weekend is either going to be the turning point or the point where we wonder can United genuinely compete for the title. Because i'm doubtful at the moment, I even have a worry at the back of my mind that United won't qualify for the last 16 in the Champions League.