How do you see yourself?

[masta247]

Honestly, no need to be humble or dishonest.
How do you see yourself? What are your personal traits, interests, achievements, skills, perspectives and how do you think other people perceive you? Are you happy about yourself? What are your goals and how realistic are they? Do you really know yourself and are you aware of your possibilities? Do you still see yourself as a person you would like to be or are you perfectly aware of your true self?

I wonder if anyone not lazy will be brave enough to respond
I ask because writing down these things helped me a lot with learning about myself.

 

[Shadows]

I see myself exactly as my LEO sign portrays me.

I can be very gentle but get on my bad side, and I'm the worst.

I'd like to think of myself and confident. I am not conceited, but I know I'm attractive, just not model status.

My interest is doing anything fun, but...I'm a leo, so I like to be lazy and just kick back.

Basically, I think i'm more of an all-around person. However, if I am feeling in one mood or not the other, it's hard to get me out of feeling like that. So...I can be a downer or too hyper at times too...b/c I like to do what I want to do, when I want to do it, as long as it's respectful.

In saying that, I never break the law though...if I do, it's usually my last resort, like right now, I'm hustling. Just made $400 today.

In one week, thats $900.

I'm not happy with myself. I feel like I can do more and could have done better with what I have done.

My goals are realistic, but it is filled with fantasy.

I mean, if I can get my goal of becoming an engineer, then I know I can have the house and so forth, but maybe not so the girl I want/need. I want a nice family. I can do that anywhere, I just dont want a cuniving bitch.

I am aware of my true self. I haven't changed since I realised myself back in 11th grade, when was that? 5 years ago?

It's why I was able to commit at a young age.

There are some things that I need to change. I am a strong person, but I am venturing out a bit by doing other things every now and then.

Trust trying to live my life, even if I worry about that paper.

 

[ill-matic]

People say;

I am "this"

I am "that"

What if we cut all that out and just say

I am

and be happy because of it.

 

[Jokerman]

*waits for the master list of Euphanasia's fears and disappointments*

 

[Elmira]

Arbitrary question. If our whole lives we are in the process of discovering who we are, anything we say, opinion we hold of ourselves, in the middle way is nothing more than juvenile conceit or else very likely to change with experience and the more knowledge obtained.

 

[Preach]

Arbitrary question. If our whole lives we are in the process of discovering who we are, anything we say, opinion we hold of ourselves, in the middle way is nothing more than juvenile conceit or else very likely to change with experience and the more knowledge obtained.

I don't understand you saying "Arbitrary question" (as if that confirms or denies anything). He asked "how do you see yourself" and you point out that it's a question that has no definite answer/is up to the individual. I'm just trying to understand what your point is.

If one is trying to discover oneself, it's thereby implied that one "is". This is a pretty abstract aspect of human life, and most people ignore it and live their lives, one humane impulse after the other. Even though every thought and opinion can be considered "juvenile conceit" after you've perfected the theory through greater knowledge, the thought still holds merit in the moment it's relevant to.

I think masta, in fact, wanted to hear people's flawed and misinformed conceptions of themselves for the purpose of measuring his own ability to judge his own thoughts and actions. He simply wanted someone to speak an emotion and not an abstract thought concept, for once.



Separate from response to Elmira:
I feel really great at the moment. I am coming to terms with the fact that I'm ugly and soon bald, I've got a better understanding of how people around me work, I'm starting a new job in August, I'm pretty much sober, I'm gonna have a big talking session with my closest friends and clear the air after six years where I sorta slowly fell out of the group. So it'll be presentation-style laying my cards on the table for them. That's gonna be interesting, but I think our friendship bonds will be much stronger.

The way I relate to what people think of me is something like this: I'm smarter than the average person and I generally outsmart people everyday. I'm not gonna try and not sound conceited cause it just fucking takes longer, it's not my fault a bunch of people are stupider than me. I'm still humble, and I don't think smartness is a quality that is greater than any quality other people I know hold, it's just one of many possible qualities. I am a caring and loving person, so much in fact that I can easily be taken advantage of. I'm still firm, and I have strong opinions that I do not keep to myself no matter the price. I believe in integrity and I am a bit old school. I believe in respect, but not the mafia kind - the kind where you pretend to respect things, even if you don't. Respect is a social construct that to me can't possibly have to do with how people see a person, it's about how a person feels around other people. Demanding/expecting respect when you're around people that you consider lesser than you is truly conceited. Desire for respect is a "side-effect" of insecurity. Like how Scarface wanted respect. How muslims relate to "respect". I think it's a matter of insecurity. You're so insecure about yourself that you threaten people to the point where they don't dare to look at you, so you don't have to be insecure about them looking at you. The concept of "respect" was born when a human being gained influence on a group of people. That insecurity is human nature. In the modern world where we're supposed to try and ignore our own instincts and impulses (like, when I wanted to masturbate in my car outside the shopping mall I got all the weirdest looks by the people that passed by - what gives?) it's hypocritical to still even talk about "respect". To me, respect doesn't mean to fear and take orders from someone, it means to unconditionally accept something without prejudice. I dunno masta, there's a bunch of emotional thoughts for you, straight from the dome. Maybe something along the lines of what you were looking for, or maybe your face needs a re-structuring.

 

[Preach]

Also, note that me and Shadows were the only people with balls in this thread.

 

[Elmira]

^ Well, you're quite right about that one.

Nobody likes to expose their flaws, you know? Language can get you out of any sticky situation, you should try it sometime. I hope the fact that I tried to talk my way out of it doesn't make me sound like a emotion-less freak speaking in 'abstract concepts,' as you would call them. Abstract concepts or different tongues?

As for my better qualities, I wouldn't point them out to anyone here for the reason being, I don't see myself getting a response back on the personal opinions I hold of myself. That I think of myself as a highly talented writer, for one, or two -- how I love my brown eyes because they turn a light auburn shade in the sun. Or my altruism? Or my ego-mania? What is the point if we are in this forum to state our opinion and debate?

And you might tell me that it is different for the purposes of this thread, as the thread-speaker has started a topic wherein people are supposed to discuss just these things. Well man, I believe there are like 3 main things anyone can say about themselves. At the end of the day everyone believes that they're smarter then the next man, that they have got a bit more integrity then the next man, and everyone loves to masturbate. That's about it. Not to make a bulletin point of your response, but you get it.

 

[Elmira]

Even though every thought and opinion can be considered "juvenile conceit" after you've perfected the theory through greater knowledge, the thought still holds merit in the moment it's relevant to.

Are you telling me things have a momentum of their own? Sure I agree with that, I'll never disagree with that, but that doesn't discredit my point. I still think what you say is subject to change. You will very likely not hold the same opinion of yourself, bad or good, in 5 years time. Or sooner than that time. And if it's not a juvenile conceit, it is naivety.

 

[Preach]

Are you telling me things have a momentum of their own? Sure I agree with that, I'll never disagree with that, but that doesn't discredit my point. I still think what you say is subject to change. You will very likely not hold the same opinion of yourself, bad or good, in 5 years time. Or sooner than that time. And if it's not a juvenile conceit, it is naivety.

Nah, I just meant that you seem to be the kind of person that sort of shrugs things off like that. "Meh, this is just juvenile conceit, fuck it cause I ain't respecting it". I'm the exact opposite to you. I'm the open person that will gladly speak of his flaws. I just don't care. The pro to that is the freedom of not having to put on a mask some times. I can be me in any way shape or form and people will expect it because I was always like this. The con is that I'm sure the prejudice could create potential problems I haven't thought of (extreme example: some guy overhears me talking about my weaknesses, and a year later i'm interviewing for a job and it's him doing it).

I most likely won't see myself the same way in five years. But to see myself in any way what so ever, I will have to have seen myself as something in the past as well. My evaluation of my own personality is an ongoing dynamic thing. Imagine a waterballoon, and when you push it the shape changes but the mass stays the same. I apply a sort of similar thought concept to how I see my own personality. The merit of whatever I am feeling right now maybe lies within the ability to use it as a pointer in the future, when I am looking back on my life to try and make sense of things.

So I guess maybe I felt like my pride was insulted. Because I some times pursue emotions that you would otherwise likely label as "juvenile conceit" for the purpose of doing just that for a change. To not be the static, professional, serious, considerate and patient person I have to be to maintain a name for myself, but to just be human. I do this because I find it to be recreational. So yeah, it was the ego thing mostly. We're just opposites on this matter. And that implication you were fearing, no, I don't have this impression that you are an emotion-less siren or anything. I see why I give that impression though, it's all just because I'm self-centered when I express my thoughts.

Lastly I just wanted to say that you now gave some insight into how you think, so in a way, your two responses were probably exactly what masta was looking for. Sounds like you've thought about this a great deal, and they are interesting thoughts. Also, seeing as how you're an artist, I can sense your obvious philosophical nature

Edit: btw, i'm good with language too. english is my second though, i'm better in my first

 

[Jokerman]

My dick is a macho shithead, but the rest of me is a sensitive, caring, and gentle guy.

 

[Elmira]

My rump is full of candor and good will. The twins on top are happiest when playing with the cat. The old skull and my collar bones are noticeably tired, my bones are weary. I'm no good to anyone anymore, but immediate family who still manage to hold me in high esteem. I'm extremely selfish and apathetic.

 

[_streethop101]

Okay I admit I didn't read anyones replies but Shadows' because you all type wayyyyy too fucking much and argue way too much about how you see YOURSELVES. This isn't a debate, people, there is only one answer, it shouldn't be argued how you see yourself...

Anyway, I am kind of a loner, very self-conscious, though I don't let it show in public. Very loyal friend, kind of an asshole upon first impression but that comes with the self-conscious loner thing. I consider myself very funny, rather attractive (above average) and friendly to people who I perceive as friendly. I'm a good judge of character, most of the time, but of course I get fooled from time to time.
I like to play up the "dumb asshole" persona, but I am actually pretty smart. My female friend told me if I would be myself I would get more girls, I told her the dumb asshole character brought girls but once I was my less assholish, smarter self, the girls bail. She told me it's because it attracts the wrong girls for the "real" me and this made a lot of sense.
I get mood swings and a bad temper over the smallest things but substantial things don't really bother me as much. I sweat the small stuff, and I don't know why.

Overall I'm arrogant, but insecure. Friendly, but a dick. And funny, but with a strange sense of humor that involves a lot of gay jokes and pedophile jokes. People who don't know how to take me are really put off by my sense of humor sometimes and I am widely considered a homosexual at first. But later I'm considered a man-whore because I playfully flirt a lot. I'm a paradox.

 

[Preach]

Isn't everyone.

 

[_streethop101]

Probably.

 

[S O F I]

I'm kinda like a big deal.

 

[Preach]

I'm kinda like a big deal.

Like a storm in a waterglass?

 

[_streethop101]

I'm kinda like a big deal.

In a very small way.

 

[Bender]

i usually use a mirror