Honest question about professional wrestling

#1
it's fake, correct?? how are there wrestlers that were considered legends when really it was just acting...with some weird twist of gymnastics??? wouldnt they just be great actors? i never understood how it was considered a sport for some time now.. i use to watch it in the 7th grade about 7 years ago, but now looking back on it, it was just like a regular tv show with a storyline and a little bit of fighting in between...

this wasnt meant to offend anyone... its been something that's been nagging me for some time now...
 

PuffnScruff

Well-Known Member
#2
is it fake? well if you call it fake then you don't have a good understanding of the word fake.

it is a production. their are story lines and it is the age old story of good vs. evil.

many of them have gone on to acting. hogan really led the way on that one and opened many doors for people like batista, kane, cena, christian cage, steve austin, etc. but most of these guys will tear a major muscle during a match and keep on wrestling like nothing is wrong while doing this in a lot of pain.

is it a sport? is gymnastics a sport? cheerleading? these guys are on the road performing more days out of the week than guys in the nfl, mlb, nba, and other sports. only difference is it is the wrestlers dont get an off season.

in the end these guys are athletes, well most of them, and are in great physical condition.
 

S O F I

Administrator
Staff member
#3
It's fake because it's fake competition. It's like a rigged basketball game. I don't consider it a sport because the outcome is rigged, plain and simple.
 

PuffnScruff

Well-Known Member
#6
sport = an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess

lets see, wrestling is an physical athletic activity which does require skill and knowledge to do or else you will end up seriously injured.

to say these people that perform in wrestling are not athletes, lol...well once agian you don't know the defiintion of an athlete.

athlete = a person trained or gifted in exercises or contests involving physical agility, stamina, or strength; a participant in a sport, exercise, or game requiring physical skill.


so...you're wrong. but bachaveli usually is...so no big shock there
 

Bacho

New Member
#7
Stop feeding boloney to people puffnscruff. Wrestling is not a sport and their actors aren't athletes.

Typical american response. You'll say one simple thing to him and he'll reply with definitions and examples and whatnot. lol

Bottom line is even with your definitions, wrestling is not a sport nor are their actors athletes.


Mod message : Another racist remark Bacho and I will personaly edit all of your posts in this section.
 

PuffnScruff

Well-Known Member
#8
that is your opinion and that is fine. but even so your opinion was proven to be ignorant and just all around wrong.

and that's the bottom line
 

Bacho

New Member
#9
that is your opinion and that is fine. but even so your opinion isn't really accurate and just all around pure bull shit.

and that's the bottom line
 

Tha_Wood

Underboss
Staff member
#10
thats why i dont like you bacho, you always dismiss peoples opinions and say they are wrong even though they have evidence as to why they are correct, you on the other hand have no evidence but somehow in that fucked up ignorant narrow minded brain of yours you are still correct.
 
#11
ok, off-tangent for a second.. i proposed this in another thread.. i feel bach cant speak english because is from a 19th world nation... so he just runs his ignorance through an online translator and then cuts and pastes it... he uses phrases that are really not in the right context.....

moving on, puff, actors practice the same way... everyday for long periods of time...most go to school to do that.... how is that different from wrestlers? sure they climb the ropes and run around, but it's almost like, but not quite like fighting an invisibile enemy... like shadow boxing... but with running and jumping
 
#12
thats why i dont like you bacho, you always dismiss peoples opinions and say they are wrong even though they have evidence as to why they are correct, you on the other hand have no evidence but somehow in that fucked up ignorant narrow minded brain of yours you are still correct.
I'm glad you told me that, I really wanted to know why you didn't like me.
 
#14
it's fake, correct?? how are there wrestlers that were considered legends when really it was just acting...with some weird twist of gymnastics??? wouldnt they just be great actors?
By "legends" I assume you mean people like Hulk Hogan? Nobody in their right mind would consider Hulk Hogan a great actor. Did you see Mr. Nanny? He's considered a legend because of the way he changed the business. Lots of people get put in the position Hogan was in, but most never manage to connect with the fans.

But someone like Bret Hart is considered a legend because of his in-ring skills. It might not make sense to talk about someone being a good wrestler when it's all predetermined, but it takes a lot of skill to do what he did. Yes, the moves are choreographed, but they have to be choreographed well. A good wrestler, like Bret Hart, has to know what's going to look real, what's going to look good, and what's going to excite the fans. He also has to be able to physically perform the moves, both the moves he's doing and the moves his opponent is doing. Wrestling moves are dangerous if you don't know what you're doing, and it's tough to get the right balance between something looking painful and actually being painful. It's a lot easier to punch a guy and break his nose than to punch a guy and not. The fact that Bret Hart never once injured an opponent is a testament to how good he was technically. You also have to consider something that wrestling fans call 'psychology'. Every match, but particularly big matches, have to tell a story. Without a story, it's hard to keep people entertained. It's the same with other sports, there's usually some kind of 'story' to every match. It might be something simple like an underdog trying to overcome the odds, or it could be a boxer coming back from injury who's worried about his opponent exploiting that, or a football team trying to stop the opposition's star player from getting the ball. Wrestling matches have that psychology too, and it's something that can make a good match great, or it can make a good match awful.

It's a complex business, and most casual fans probably don't even think about those kind of things. But it takes a lot of skill, and that's why most "legends" are probably considered legends because of their popularity and charisma rather than their in-ring skills.

But wrestling is like a TV show, just not like any other TV show on TV. The storyline stuff, that you watch every week, is basically a soap opera for men. But then the stuff that goes on inside the ring is a mixture of "real" sports like boxing or MMA, and performance stuff like action films or kung-fu movies. You don't watch it to see who the better wrestler is, like you might with a boxing match, you watch it to see a) who's going to win, and b) how exciting the stuff they do is going to be.
 
#16
forget people like Bacho, they are just ignorant. for anyone to say that wrestlers aren't athletes is just crazy. do you have any idea how much strength and stamina are involved in performing these matches day in and day out? how much athletic ability is needed to be able to do a swanton bomb or shooting star press without breaking your own neck? too many people put so much emphasis on the "fake" aspect of wrestling and don't see the talent and the skill involved in putting these matches together. it's like filming an extended fight scene for a movie, live and all in one take.

that's also been a pet peeve of mine when it comes to people who call wrestling fake. well when you watch an action movie and you see a fight scene, do you sit there and go, "oh, this is fake, it's stupid?" i mean fight scenes in movies are completely scripted and choreographed right down to every single move the actors (or more often their stuntmen) make. but i've never heard anyone calling that "fake." it's called suspension of disbelief.

now a wrestling match, while key spots in the match are choreographed and the finish is planned, is usually not scripted and it is up to the 2 wrestlers to work together to put on a great match (that's where ring psychology comes in). i'm not much of a fan of wrestling any more but i have always had massive respect for thesse guys, they put their bodies on the line every night to entertain the fans.
 

masta247

Well-Known Member
Staff member
#17
it's not a sport because main aspect of sport is rivalry, competition - there's no real rivalry in Wrestling.
They don't use their athletic skills to fight because it's not real fighting. They have to play that.
I say that with all respect to Wrestlers -
they are athletes and actors.
It's nothing bad of course because they have to put a lot of work too.
They use the same moves they would use anyway - they have to know them and master them. There's just no real competition there.

I personally am more into sports - wrestling is more of a show performed by athletes. It's made to look good not to be effective but it's got much more fans that way.
 

hizzle?

Well-Known Member
Staff member
#18
Well the way they say it now, instead of Wrestling, they call it Sports Entertainment... It's true... They are athletes that mainly entertain.
 
#19
forget people like Bacho, they are just ignorant. for anyone to say that wrestlers aren't athletes is just crazy. do you have any idea how much strength and stamina are involved in performing these matches day in and day out? how much athletic ability is needed to be able to do a swanton bomb or shooting star press without breaking your own neck? too many people put so much emphasis on the "fake" aspect of wrestling and don't see the talent and the skill involved in putting these matches together. it's like filming an extended fight scene for a movie, live and all in one take.

that's also been a pet peeve of mine when it comes to people who call wrestling fake. well when you watch an action movie and you see a fight scene, do you sit there and go, "oh, this is fake, it's stupid?" i mean fight scenes in movies are completely scripted and choreographed right down to every single move the actors (or more often their stuntmen) make. but i've never heard anyone calling that "fake." it's called suspension of disbelief.

now a wrestling match, while key spots in the match are choreographed and the finish is planned, is usually not scripted and it is up to the 2 wrestlers to work together to put on a great match (that's where ring psychology comes in). i'm not much of a fan of wrestling any more but i have always had massive respect for thesse guys, they put their bodies on the line every night to entertain the fans.
Hi there.

It was a lil exaggeration saying they're not athletes. They probably are athletes some way beause with all that jumping and swinging and all that essentially needs some exercising and shit. But they're not as big of athletes as people in real sports like soccer,basketball and boxing.
 

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