Hell

#1
I always wondered about hell (from the bible). Isn't satan the person who "runs" hell? And isnt he supposed to be a bad guy?
So when you are bad you go to hell right more or less right? Ok, so now how would that be a punishment? Don't you think satan would take you into his family and be evil with you? It wouldnt make sense punishing a fellow evil.
 
#2
I don't think satan runs hell. Satan is just put on this earth to decieve you. He is created by god to test ur righteousness. If you are overly influenced by the devil(in other words if u do wrong)then you are punished in hell. Thats what ive always thought anyway.
 
#3
satan is a fallen angel, and i believe that he doesnt 'kick it' with the people that go to hell. i think that he punishes them... maybe its just like burning in a firey pit for eternity.
 
#6
I dont believe satan is a fallen angel because angels arent created with free will/choice so they cant go against or disobey God, neither is he in charge of what happens in hell
 

Flipmo

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#7
The devil is a fallen Angel.

Gabriel to be exact. He was jealous of us mortals cause God was giving us too much attention. So him and other angels started a rebellion. Gabriel was getting darker by the minute, his wings of feathers started turning into scales.. At that point, God's Arch-Angels killed Gabriel and then he went completly dark and was banished to another realm. Which was hell. He was tied up by god and he vowed to get revenge on him and all mortals. Since then, apperently beyond our eyes, there has been a war waging between hell in heaven.

Read it in the bible. You get the whole graphic story in details. I think it's in the genesis
 

Jokerman

Well-Known Member
#10
Good question, haunted. Hell was created for the devil and his angels. Although souls of men will also be there, the real purpose was as a punishment for Satan. As such it will continue for eternity. There's no indication in Scripture that Satan is in charge there. So Satan doesn't "run it," nor does he torture anyone. That notion comes from Hollywood (which, by the way, Satan does run).

But consider this: If God intends to punish in hell for all eternity everyone who fails to accept that Jesus is the Son of God and the Savior of all mankind, then is God fundamentally evil?
 
#11
mrmakaveli7 said:
satan is a fallen angel, and i believe that he doesnt 'kick it' with the people that go to hell. i think that he punishes them... maybe its just like burning in a firey pit for eternity.
from this point i want to add that maybe the "devil" just wants to punish people who are blinded and think they are or could ever be something more than God or what they already are. So like the "devil" who wanted to be more than what he was, turned his back on the creator and now he's just doing the same to others in order to fill up that void within himself. (the fact that he's no longer serving God)
 
#14
If there is a hell how can they punish you there if you're already dead, every humans greatest fear is linked to death, like someone they loved dieing or themselves dieing in great pain etc, so what are they gonna do to you down there, blast n*sync music through loudspeakers for all eternity? :rolleyes: , If your dead obviuosly they can't torture you because you won't have your body and therefore no sense's and don't say mental torture because if your already dead then there is nothing more they can do to you, and you would know that so what would there be to be scared of?
 

vg4030

Well-Known Member
#15
its not about being physically hurt..

its kinda more to do with what happens to your soul after you die.. does it ever rest or is it punished...
 
#16
radkin said:
If there is a hell how can they punish you there if you're already dead, every humans greatest fear is linked to death, like someone they loved dieing or themselves dieing in great pain etc, so what are they gonna do to you down there, blast n*sync music through loudspeakers for all eternity? :rolleyes: , If your dead obviuosly they can't torture you because you won't have your body and therefore no sense's and don't say mental torture because if your already dead then there is nothing more they can do to you, and you would know that so what would there be to be scared of?
If there is a hell, then there must be a God, as the whole notion of hell comes from God. If there is a God then surely if he can create you in the first place he wouldn't have a problem with ressurecting you.
 
#17
But surely if there is a god, the best way to punish evil people and to get rid of all evil would be to let all good people live in heaven in peace forever doing whatever they want when they die, and for all the evil people when they die that's it just wipe their spirit from existense so that they no longer exist, to me this makes more sense
 
#19
FlipMo said:
The devil is a fallen Angel.

Gabriel to be exact. He was jealous of us mortals cause God was giving us too much attention. So him and other angels started a rebellion. Gabriel was getting darker by the minute, his wings of feathers started turning into scales.. At that point, God's Arch-Angels killed Gabriel and then he went completly dark and was banished to another realm. Which was hell. He was tied up by god and he vowed to get revenge on him and all mortals. Since then, apperently beyond our eyes, there has been a war waging between hell in heaven.

Read it in the bible. You get the whole graphic story in details. I think it's in the genesis
No that's not right. Lucifer was the highest Angel and God's favourite but he became jealous of Christ in heaven because God loved Christ His Son more than him. He wanted to be worshiped and take God's place so he rallied up other angels and caused a revolt against God and loyal Angels. Lucifer (called Satan for the war in heaven) lost and was banished from Heaven.

I'm not sure how Lucifer became known as the ruler of hell. The idea of Hell in Christianity came from Greek mythology's Hades and Lucifer went from being exhiled from heaven as punishment in Judaism to the ruler of hell in Christianity.

It's now become folklore to us now that Lucifer is pure evil and the opposite polar to God, when I don't think many people realise that he started as God's right hand man.

Peace.
 

Cown

Active Member
#20
His Origin: Satan has not always existed. He and all the other angels were created (Ps. 148:2,5; Col. 1:16). In Ezekiel 28:12-15 we find a description of Satan before he sinned. Although the prophet was speaking to the king of Tyre, there are certain indications in the passage that he was speaking beyond the king to Satan himself. Created by God as "the anointed cherub who covers" (v.14), he was "full of wisdom and perfect in beauty" (v.12) and covered with "every precious stone" (v.13). He was in "Eden, the garden of God" (v.13) and placed "on the holy mountain of God" (v.14). Satan most likely had a special place of prominence in his service to God.

His Sin Referring to Satan, Ezekiel 28:15 states, "You were perfect in your ways from the day you were created, till iniquity was found in you." Ezekiel then added, "Your heart was lifted up because of your beauty; you corrupted your wisdom for the sake of your splendor" (v.17).

Satan's sin originated in pride, grew into self-deception, and ended in rebellion. In Isaiah 14:13,14 we read, "For you have said in your heart: 'I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; I will also sit on the mount of the congregation . . . ; I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, I will be like the Most High' " (Is. 14:13,14). Satan's pride so deluded him that he claimed equality with God. This led him to spark a rebellion in which he induced a large number of angels to join him (Rev. 12:4).

His Punishment After Satan sinned, God threw him out of heaven to the earth (Is. 14:12; Ezek. 28:16,17). His final punishment will come shortly after the end of the millennial reign of Christ on the earth. At that time, Satan will be "cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever" (Rev. 20:10).

His Personhood Satan is not an impersonal evil force. He possesses the traits of personality: intellect (2 Cor. 11:3), emotion (Rev. 12:17), and will (2 Tim. 2:26). Furthermore, personal pronouns are used of him in both the Old and New Testament (Job 1:6-12; 2:1-7; Zech. 3:1,2; Matt. 4:1-12).

His Names We can learn a great deal about who Satan is by looking at the different names, titles, and representations of him throughout Scripture:

Satan (Zech 3:1; Matt. 4:10; Rev. 12:9; 20:2), used 52 times, comes from the Hebrew word satan meaning "adversary" or "opposer."
Devil (Matt. 4:1; 13:39; Eph. 4:27; Rev. 12:9; 20:2), used 35 times, comes from the Greek word diabolos meaning "slanderer, accuser."
Lucifer (Is. 14:12) means "son of the morning," "shining one," or "light bearer." Even though this describes him before his fall, Satan currently "transforms himself into an angel of light" to deceive the world (2 Cor. 11:14).
Anointed cherub (Ezek. 28:14) indicates that he had one of the highest (if not the highest) ranking of all the angels.
Evil one (Matt. 13:19,38; John 17:15; Eph. 6:16; 1 John 5:18,19) describes him as the personification of evil.
Ruler of this world (John 12:31; 14:30; 16:11) refers to his power over the evil world-system of men and demons.
God of this age (2 Cor. 4:4) is used in reference to his power to blind the minds of the world to the gospel.
Prince of the power of the air (Eph. 2:2) describes his pervasive spiritual influence.
Serpent (Gen. 3:1; 2 Cor. 11:3; Rev. 12:9; 20:2) portrays his deceit and craftiness.
Dragon (Rev. 12:3,7,9) indicates his fierce nature and power to destroy.
Accuser (Rev. 12:10).
Tempter (Matt. 4:3; 1 Thess 3:5).
Deceiver (Rev. 12:9; 20:3).
Murderer (John 8:44).
Liar (John 8:44).
Sinner (1 John 3:8).
Beelzebub, ruler of the demons (Matt 10:25; 12:24,27; Mark 3:22; Luke 11:15), literally translated means "lord of the flies."
Belial (2 Cor. 6:15) means "worthless" or "wicked."
Roaring lion (1 Pet. 5:8) describes him as hungry and on the prowl to devour Christians.
 

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