Football chip could help referees

#1
(CNN) --

While football fans were dumbfounded earlier this month when referee Mark Clattenburg failed to award a goal to Tottenham Hotspur midfielder Pedro Mendes, a small German company was quietly pleased.

Clattenburg's failure to see what was --as shown in replays -- clearly a goal from 50 yards, infuriated followers of the English Premiership game against Manchester United.

But for Cairos Technologies it was the kind of advertising that money cannot buy.

The Karlsbad-based company has developed a tiny radio chip that fits inside a football and determines whether the ball has crossed the goal line, by being able to pinpoint its exact location on the pitch.

The idea has been in the making since 1999, when a group of soccer-mad German friends saw a similar blunder by a referee in their own country during a premiership game.

"We thought there must be some kind of technology that would be able to tell when the ball has traveled across the goal line," said Oliver Braun, one of the founders of Cairos Technologies.

The group began investigating options, including using lasers and light barriers to determine the ball's position, before settling on the idea of using a chip inside a ball.

The chip, which with the battery that powers it weighs 12 grams, transmits 2,000 signals a second to a receiver network of 12 antennas, placed around the pitch, including on light fixtures.

The receivers then send information about the ball's location to a central computer, and because it works in real time, it can instantly tell the referee whether a goal has been scored, says Braun.

It also works in 3D so it can detect when the ball crosses the line in mid-air.

Braun says the way in which this information is communicated to the referee is yet to be decided, but it could be similar to the "vibrating sleeve," currently used by linesman when they want to talk to the referee, he says.

Braun says feedback from German referees, who were consulted during development, was generally positive.

Although the ball is close to completion, none of the parties involved with its development will comment on when it is likely to be used to prevent future disputes about goals.

FIFA, meanwhile, has put the subject of goal line technology on the agenda of its International Football Association Board's annual general meeting, to be held in Cardiff, Wales on February 26.

But while Braun is not clear on an exact timeline of his company's product, he is clear that the Clattenburg decision has definitely helped emphasize the need for such technology in the sport.

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I'd go for this Chip, i'm amazed as how those basterds are Man U got away with this, that referee must have been blind as fuck.
 

2Pax

Well-Known Member
#3
It's a good idea and ^she has a good point but I think the bigger problem is determining whether or not a player is offside and whether or not he is active if he is offside.
 
#4
I was thinking a similar thing, but all they would need to do and I think is a better idea:-

Have something in the football, like a chip. On the goal line have like a sensor, and on top of the goal have a beacon. So when the ball crosses the line, done once the chip inside the football sets off the sensor, the light/beacon on top of the goal can flash and light up so people defiently know the ball crossed the line, similar to that of in a game of hockey, I noticed when the puck (sp?) hits the back of the net and enters the goal a red beacon goes off.

They should introduce something as simple as that in the football game and there wouldnt need to be a decission/argument between gary linker and alan hanson saying that it could spoil the game like going back to cameras, stopping the game to determine something. Introducing a simple light sensor, that can detect and will go off from the chip inside the football resolves everything and is so simple.
 
#7
goal line blunders are pretty rare anyways, i would like to see some technology that sorts out the offisde rule but that seems impossible with out upsetting the flow of the game. rugby league is different as it is stop start all the way.
 
#8
I agree that the offside rule is a much bigger issue. Decisions like the one in the Spurs/United match rarely take place.

Quite frankly, the fans want something to complain about. If you remove every point of contention with lasers and microchips, the fans won't have anything to talk about in the pubs after the game.
 
#9
Illuminattile said:
I agree that the offside rule is a much bigger issue. Decisions like the one in the Spurs/United match rarely take place.

Quite frankly, the fans want something to complain about. If you remove every point of contention with lasers and microchips, the fans won't have anything to talk about in the pubs after the game.
I'm sure the majority of the Americans on here would tell you that nothing has been lost by the introduction of video evidence to the NFL, so I don't see why it would be different in football.
 

Jibster

Active Member
#10
Illuminattile said:
I agree that the offside rule is a much bigger issue. Decisions like the one in the Spurs/United match rarely take place.

Quite frankly, the fans want something to complain about. If you remove every point of contention with lasers and microchips, the fans won't have anything to talk about in the pubs after the game.
I disagree with this belief so much it's untrue. If you asked me if my team could've won a game instead of drawin or "have somethin to talk about in the pub" i'll take the 3points all day long. There's 90minutes of action there and if you need an injustice to make it worth talkin about you need to find a new sport.
 
#11
I think they shud leave football as it is. This is wot makes football so exiting and keeps the game flowing. Also as A Man United supporter i couldn't stop laughing when the Ref didn't see that goal. Moments like that are priceless.
 
#12
tupacmansion said:
I think they shud leave football as it is. This is wot makes football so exiting and keeps the game flowing. Also as A Man United supporter i couldn't stop laughing when the Ref didn't see that goal. Moments like that are priceless.
I was about to give you abuse for this post, then I saw you were a Man Utd fan and it all made sense.
 
#13
isnt there a guy behind the hockey net to determine the light, not an actual sensor.

why dont they put chips in every shoe to determine every last touch.........

But they should put on that flashy thing Fox did with hockey, blue streak for soft passes, red streak for harder balls. Or was that Wayne Gretzky's 3D Hockey.......
 
#15
gerrycurl21 said:
why dont they put chips in every shoe to determine every last touch.........
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Why?

And if it is a guy standing behind the hockney net, then that should do that for football, get some guys, like a new lines men each side of goalpost but obviously not on the line, behind the net and get it done that way.

Its cheap, as no technology will need to be put into place (so katies comment about the lower leagues being able to afford it) BUT most of all It will create NEW jobs for four people every match thats a good thing.
 
#16
thug_militant said:
^^So how exactly is having a light/beacon that will go off once the ball with the chip has crossed the goal line not a good idea?
cos at the end of the day if the ref dosnt see it he doesnt see it, all this chip stuff will take all the fun out of the game, games will last longer cos they will be looking at playback etc, just seems a waste of time to me. but then in some ways i think it coiuld be could, so im undecided!! lol
 

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