Designer Babies

#1
Half fertility clinics allow parents to pick gender

How do you feel, hypothetically, about allowing couples to choose the characteristics - sex, hair colour, eye colour, height etc. - of their unborn child?

I don't know where to stand on this, morally. I can't see anything obviously unethical about it, but I do worry that it could eventually lead to a world populated by billions of Barbies and Kens...

...but is that a bad thing? For every child to be "designed" by their parents? Would it eliminate a lot of discrimination and prejudice?

I don't know, convince me one way or the other.
 

Duke

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#2
I don't know either. Like you said, I can't really point out anything "wrong" with it, but it feels weird.
 

Jokerman

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#3
I've been designed...as a super warrior. I was given jellyfish genes. I can slink in and out of anything. No container can hold me except a tunafish can, if I'm packed in right.


It should probably be all right for parents to choose characteristics that are a possibility within their own genes; e.g., eye color. But when it starts coming down to artificially enhancing the intelligence of the child or giving the child a particular talent, then we have an ethical dilemma.
 
#4
Illuminattile said:
Half fertility clinics allow parents to pick gender

How do you feel, hypothetically, about allowing couples to choose the characteristics - sex, hair colour, eye colour, height etc. - of their unborn child?

I don't know where to stand on this, morally. I can't see anything obviously unethical about it, but I do worry that it could eventually lead to a world populated by billions of Barbies and Kens...

...but is that a bad thing? For every child to be "designed" by their parents? Would it eliminate a lot of discrimination and prejudice?

I don't know, convince me one way or the other.
if i could choose two things about my son, i would make sure he would be tall and never go bald. id leave the rest to nature.
 

The.Menace

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#5
...but is that a bad thing? For every child to be "designed" by their parents? Would it eliminate a lot of discrimination and prejudice?
Yes it is a bad thing. Children are the product of nature, it's not for the parents to chose the perfect toy for them - if you want a child you should be able to accept it the way God/faith/nature - whatever u believe in - wants it to be.

Secondly, imagin how many parents would for example create a new Shaq or Yao just to be able to earn money with their child - and where would this take us? All sports etc would be ruined.
 
#6
yeah I think that's pretty wrong. you're supposed to fuck and pray that you get that little boy/girl not look at a catalogue and pick which one you want
 

Shahin

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#7
I'm not gonna come out and say it's wrong in itself, as long as the only thing you can change is appearance then there's no real harm in it. If they on the other hand are able to change things as intelligence and physical strength then I'd be against it. I don't wanna live in a world where the people who are lucky enough to be born rich will have even more of an advantage then the rest of us.
 

k69atie

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#8
I think it is wrong, but if you want to stop your child from having a birth defect, or illness then it is ok. But not purely on gender/eye/hair colour that is just wrong.
 
#9
DUB CEE said:
yeah I think that's pretty wrong. you're supposed to fuck and pray that you get that little boy/girl not look at a catalogue and pick which one you want
Fuck "supposed to", that's not an argument.

The.Menace said:
Yes it is a bad thing. Children are the product of nature, it's not for the parents to chose the perfect toy for them - if you want a child you should be able to accept it the way God/faith/nature - whatever u believe in - wants it to be.
We go against nature on a lot of things. If nature gives you a tumour, you don't sit back and say "Oh well, I guess I have to accept this". You say "To hell with nature, cut me open and get this thing out of me".

k69atie said:
I think it is wrong, but if you want to stop your child from having a birth defect, or illness then it is ok. But not purely on gender/eye/hair colour that is just wrong.
Why?
 

k69atie

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#10
I mean if there is something in your family (ie a serious illness or your other child/ren has an illness) i agree to help them have a baby that doesn't suffer from the same thing.
 
#12
k69atie said:
I mean if there is something in your family (ie a serious illness or your other child/ren has an illness) i agree to help them have a baby that doesn't suffer from the same thing.
I meant, why is it "just wrong" to choose your child's gender/eye/hair colour?
 
#13
Illuminattile said:
Fuck "supposed to", that's not an argument.


We go against nature on a lot of things. If nature gives you a tumour, you don't sit back and say "Oh well, I guess I have to accept this". You say "To hell with nature, cut me open and get this thing out of me".


Why?
how is it not? that's how it's been since people started fucking :thumb:
 
#14
I dont really know what to think about it, but im not afraid of the Barbie and Ken scenarie, because in the end every parents would want thier childs to look and be unique, and there are tons of different ideals from people all over the world, so i dont fear some sort of "clone wars" happening.

About making babies without disorders or illnesses is where i see the real problem, as i believe it would make our race weaker, because our body's wont naturally (But slow) built defences against these things, plus i dont believe we as humans are anywhere near being ready to take over our own evolution.
 
#16
DUB CEE said:
how is it not? that's how it's been since people started fucking :thumb:
Again, not an argument. You can't assume that, because we've been doing something a certain way for years, we're "supposed to" do it that way forever. That's anti-progress. By that logic, we should be living in caves and grunting at each other.
 
#17
The.Menace said:
Yes it is a bad thing. Children are the product of nature, it's not for the parents to chose the perfect toy for them - if you want a child you should be able to accept it the way God/faith/nature - whatever u believe in - wants it to be.

Secondly, imagin how many parents would for example create a new Shaq or Yao just to be able to earn money with their child - and where would this take us? All sports etc would be ruined.

just because u designed the child to be a shaq or yao clone doesnt mean he will want to play basketball, or even be good at it. thats a pretty ridiculous statment.


i dont know, i wouldnt do it , it would ruin the fun, but it would be nice to be able to eliminate genese that could cause a disorder, or select certain genes that would help prevent it, i know thats beyond the scope of whats goin on in this thread but just stating.

basically i wouldnt do it, but to each his own.
 

lii

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#18
i think its weird and unnecessary. making babies is like the simplest easiest thing that humans can do, and were designed to do, have sex and leave it up to nature. this makes it so sciency and complicated, whats the point? i know some ppl really really want a baby girl or boy but to actually go ahead and pick the sex and the hair color and eye color is shallow
 

The.Menace

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#19
just because u designed the child to be a shaq or yao clone doesnt mean he will want to play basketball, or even be good at it. thats a pretty ridiculous statment.
No, this is the point. The child would have to live with this designed huge body cause the parents wanted it to be this way.... Isn't it enough that the parents create life? Afterwards the child is his own livin beein, why should the parents be able to define the children's body - do you want to be exactly the way your parents want you to be?
 

k69atie

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#20
Illuminattile said:
I meant, why is it "just wrong" to choose your child's gender/eye/hair colour?

cos that controls child birth! where is the fun is choosing gender/eye/hair colour?

i don't agree with it.

they do it purely for looks so they can get what they want, which is wrong.
 

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