Whats wrong with itunes? I think if your computer is not an Apple, Macontish, or something besides windows that won't be possible. Ipod is made by apple so you have to use itunes. I think, but I'm not sure. I think to copy songs on to a windows media device, the device has to be like a sony psp with the mp3 player or some random mp3 player. I'm not sure, so nobody jump all over me!!