Born a Jesus

[-Daniel-]

When was Jesus REALLY born?

I don't know how many of you people read Dan Brown out there, but im about half way through Angels & Demons. I know a lot of the stuff he writes is based on fact. I get to a chapter 61, and it goes on to say that Jesus was born in 'MARCH' not December. Even says that it is in reference to the Bible. Reason for this being that the celebration was made the 25th to coincide with the Winter Solstice. I read the Bible but I don't recall anything mentioning Jesus being born in March.

One is feeling a tad confused.

 

[Sebastian]

ok, i did a little research:

as far as i know there is no real evidence when jesus was really born (the exact day). there was already the festival of the winter-summer change. so people later on decided to celebrate his birth on this day (kinda like a symbol).
but today we know that jesus was born probably 6 years before the year 0....

 

[The.Menace]

yeah nice post, beReal. It doesn't even matter when jesus was born exactly and well, we don't know the months anyway so......why wonder? Many say, like BeReal said above, that Jesus in fact was born in the year 7 before the year 0.... guess we'll never know for sure.

 

[feichen]

all i know is that he was born in Nazareth and not in Bethlehem. King David was born in Bethlehem and thats why the Greek and semi-jewish people wrote 100 years later about him that he was born in Bethlehem so it makes him more important. They liked to talk in riddles.

 

[TecK NeeX]

It is impossible to determine the exact date for the birth of Jesus (p), either from the evidence of the Gospels or from any sound tradition. the Disciples who knew Jesus (p)personally did not celebrate his birthday on the 25th December, Christmas was not among the earliest festivals of the Church. The first evidence of the feast is from Egypt. The early Church had no fixed date for Christmas; by some it was observed in May, by some in January.

according to the Oxford Dictionary of Christian Church, "through speculation as to time of year of Christ's birth dates from the early 3rd Century. the celebration of the anniversary does not appear to have been general till the 4th century. Christmas was not observed by Christians for the first two or three hundred years. It got into the western or Roman Church by the fourth century A.D. It was not until the fifth century that Roman Church ordered it to be celebrated as an official Christian festival.

historical authorities conclude that 1. Jesus (p) was not born on the 25th December 2. The early Christians were neither aware of the "25th December" nor celebrated Christmas.

 

[2PacThug4Life]

jesus birthday is on december 25th. that's why people say to you know tha real meaning of christmas because that's what day he was born on.

 

[Sebastian]

^
wrong, read the other posts

 

[CalcuoCuchicheo]

There's too many clouded areas surrounded both the birth & the life of Yeshua Ben Yosef. Biased & selective transcripts are all we have

 

[shuba]

From what i believed before, shortly after Jesus was born he was visited by 3 Wisemen,,. i only recently learned that the amount of "wisemen" that visited him was not actually 3 and was more.. and not only that, but by the time they reached Jesus in the stable, Jesus was already a few years old and not an infant,,

 

[Glockmatic]

^^ yep i watched a show that was discussing that (we probably watched the same one), they say its 3 wisemen because there were 3 gifts, but it would've been just 1 person or dozens.

 

[-Daniel-]

Yes it was chapter 61 of Angels & Demons I read it in. It looks so to be the case. I can't find it in the bible anywhere.

 

[Illuminattile]

The wise men weren't even necessarily men.

 

[Story]

ive read different things some say the accurate day is probably somewhere in march, around march 5th or so


the major issue is that they say he was born 2000 yrs ago, (on jan. 1, 2000) which as of the year 2000, would have put his birth in the year 0. there is, nor ever was a year 0, so they assume it to be around 6 or 7 B.C. that he was born.

its all so confusing and ur better off researhing it yourself rather than having us collection of miscreants explain it to you.


pz

 

[feichen]

uhmmmm
its just a story.... metaphores
if ppl came they were nomads and they tend to give presents yea to stay at someones home, but why the fukk would some greek person know stuff like that EXACTLY about jesus' life 100 years later (cuz thats when bible was completed) !
they made up stories to bring out a message, not to be historical correct.

 

[Jokerman]

He was born on 9/11.

 

[HitEmUp21]

From http://www.geocities.com/paulntobin/birthdate.html, the site comes with an agenda, but what the hell.

The Pagan Origins of Christmas
The next piece of fact should probably no longer come as a surprise to the reader: Jesus was not born on December 25th. Neither Luke nor Matthew gave any indication of Jesus' actual birthday. Like many things Christian, the origin of this date comes from the celebration of the pagan religions which nascent Christianity had to compete against. Here too, wee see Christianity assimilating portions of paganisms into its structure.
December 25th was the date of the winter solstice After this, the winter, having reached its peak, slowly gives way to spring. The winter solstice therefore, had been traditionally in Roman times, a period of unrestrained celebration. The celebration was called the Dies Natalis Solis Invicti or "the birthday of the unconquered sun." In the pagan religion of Mithraism, which was a form of sun-worship, the winter solstice was naturally an occasion of great celebration. The worship of Sol Invictus, the Sun God, became so popular that by AD274, the Roman Emperor Aurelian (c212-275) gave official sanction to December 25th as the birthday of that God.

Christianity in it battle with the pagan religions for converts slowly assimilated their celebrations and beliefs. Christmas day became one of the assimilated celebrations. By the year 354 we already have documents referring to December 25th as the birthday of Jesus. By 440 Christians were celebrating the winter solstice as the birthday of Jesus. By the sixth century, during the reign of Emperor Justinian (527-565), it had become recognized as an official Christian holiday. [2]

In early on Christianity there were fierce debates about whether December 25th of January 6th should be celebrated as the birthday of Jesus. Why January 6th? January 6th was celebrated in ancient Alexandria as -you guessed it! - the birthday of Osiris-Dionysius. The Armenian church still celebrates January 6th as Christmas to this day. [3]


Thus one of the most important dates in the Christian calender, like so many portions of the Jesus story, is an assimilated pagan celebration.

 

[-Daniel-]

all i know is that he was born in Nazareth and not in Bethlehem.

I can tell you read the Bible loads

Check out the New Testament under verse Matthew 2:1. It clearly states Jesus was born in Bethleham.