Australia: asylum seekers will again not be permitted.

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Govt confirms plan to transfer asylum seekers offshore


The Federal Government will introduce legislation that means asylum seekers who make it to the Australian mainland will be transferred to offshore immigration centres for assessment.

Immigration Minister Senator Amanda Vanstone says it is essentially an extension of the so-called "Pacific solution".

Senator Vanstone says people found to be refugees will stay offshore until they are resettled in a third country.

"Unauthorised boat arrivals and their asylum claims will be treated in the same way whether they land on offshore excise islands for the mainland," Senator Vanstone said.

"That will in fact introduce some more equity into the situation."

Furious reaction

The reaction from refugee and human rights advocates to the Federal Government's proposals for dealing with any flow of Papuan asylum seekers has been furious.

The policy has been described as extreme, alarming and disappointing.

Refugee lawyers had been expecting the Government to give Indonesia a say in the Immigration Department's process of determining asylum seekers' claims.

But expanding the regulations that allow thousands of islands off the mainland to be excised form Australia's migration zone, to deport asylum seekers who arrive on the mainland to offshore centres like Christmas Island or Manus Island where Australian migration law does apply, has taken some by surprise.

Dr Graham Tom from Amnesty International says excising territory is a very retrograde step.

"It is a surprise, given the way that the 43 Papuans were assessed when they arrived," he said.

"The fact that they had their cases assessed on their merits, the fact that the Department believed that they would face persecution and they were granted protection in this country, did send a very clear signal that all refugees would be treated equally, that they would each have their cases assessed on their merits and this was very positive and the Australian Government made it very clear that's what it was going to do to all governments concerned.

"So to then turn around now and try and placate foreign powers from which individuals are fleeing was a very surprising step and an extremely disappointing step."

Dr Tom is concerned about the signal the Government is sending.

"To send people to a country to be processed where they don't get to have the full benefits of the refugee status determination system here is clearly a penalty," he said.

International law 'breach'

Amnesty says sending asylum seekers to offshore processing centres is better than allowing a foreign power have a say in refugee claims being assessed in Australia because that is less likely to put lives at risk.

But the human rights organisation says it still puts Australia in breach its international obligations.

David Manne from the Melbourne-based Refugee and Immigration Legal Centre backs Amnesty's stance.

"This is an extreme and alarming development and a radical and very dangerous over-reaction," he said.

"Effectively the Australian Government is signalling that its prepared to be pressured by a foreign government to rewrite our own laws and our commitment to basic fundamental protection of vulnerable people who come to our country.

"It says that we are not prepared to abide by the basic and fundamental rights that apply under the refugees convention to people who come to our country.

"People have a clear cut fundamental right to seek asylum in Australia and to have their case for protection fully and properly heard in Australia.

"This proposal says that the whole of Australia has become a dehumanised zone ... where basic fundamental human rights do not apply."

Source: ABC
Will the electorate let the Government get away with this again, considering that now they are trying to appease Indonesia (who the "majority" doesn't have positive feelings towards), not the xenophobic majority?

I just hope that this is indeed the last straw. We are living in a time where pragmatic concerns are absolute. No matter what contest there is over universal human rights or anything, it is not hard to see that what Australia is doing would not be consistent with anyone's ideals.
 
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HitEmUp21 said:
Will the electorate let the Government get away with this again, considering that now they are trying to appease Indonesia (who the "majority" doesn't have positive feelings towards), not the xenophobic majority?
Fobbing off assylum seekers to excise islands rather than process them under Australian law would be appeasing the xenophobic majority as well, wouldnt it? I can understand (not justify) the government's desire to establish good relations with a close and potentially damaging neighbour like Indonesia but sadly I think the electoral outcomes indicate that our treatment of assylum seekers and refugees is not something the majority gives a shit about, if they did the Liberal party would not be in power. Fundamental human rights is a concept we have lost touch with.

It's funny that they consider this solution an equitable one, but what underlies it all is the fact that the system itself is unjust. So it might be in some sense equitable to treat all assylum seekers the same by processing offshore but the treatment they receive is shitty, lol. They are all treated equally in an inequitable system.

I served Senator Amanda Vandstone at work... I didnt say anything, wouldnt have done any good but geez, wouldnt I like to.
 
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Amara said:
Fobbing off assylum seekers to excise islands rather than process them under Australian law would be appeasing the xenophobic majority as well, wouldnt it?
You're right about the appeasement of the majority, I guess the outcome of them going to the other nations is the same as the Pacific Solution of 01/02, I just have a thought that since this time it seems to be done specifically to appease Indonesia, not the majority, people may have a different perspective on it.

Amara said:
I can understand (not justify) the government's desire to establish good relations with a close and potentially damaging neighbour like Indonesia but sadly I think the electoral outcomes indicate that our treatment of assylum seekers and refugees is not something the majority gives a shit about, if they did the Liberal party would not be in power. Fundamental human rights is a concept we have lost touch with.
This has to be one of the most pragmatic Governments Australia has even had. But they are willing to make these concessions for the electorate to push through the main economically neo-liberal and socially conservative agendas that seem to really matter. And yeah, the electorate really doesn't care too much about the treatment, or at least not enough to put it anywhere near a high priority. "Fundamental human rights" seems to be contingent on what legislation needs to get passed I think :D.
 

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