Attn: All Muslims in the US...NBC Wants You

PuffnScruff

Well-Known Member
#1
http://michellemalkin.com
A source who monitors political e-mail lists sent me an intriguing message disseminated last week, which involved an apparent Dateline NBC solicitation to Muslim groups. Check this out:

Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 13:05:54 -0800 (PST)
From: Subject: Looking for Muslim Males to participate in NBC Dateline Segment

[Forwarded]

Salam,

I hope everyone is doing well.

I have been talking with a producer of the NBC Dateline show and he is in the process of filming a piece on anti-Muslim and anti-Arab discrimination in the USA. They are looking for some Muslim male candidates for their show who would be willing to go to non-Muslim gatherings and see if they attract any
discriminatory comments or actions while being filmed.

They recently taped two turbaned Sikh men attending a football game in Arizona to see how people would treat them. They set them up with hidden microphones and cameras, etc.

They want to do the same thing 2 or 3 other times (in various parts of the USA) with one or two Muslim men in each setting. They are looking for men who actually "look Muslim". They want a guy with no foreign accent whatsoever, a good thick beard, an outgoing personality, and someone willing to wear a kufi/skullcap during the filming.

They also want someone who is fairly well accomplished and has contributed to American society at large in some meaningful way.

That said, I'm urgently looking for someone who can be filmed this April 1st weekend at a Nascar event (and other smaller events) in Virginia. NBC is willing to fly in someone and cover their weekend expenses. The filming would take place all day on Saturday and Sunday.

We already have a hijabi sister who will be filmed there but a Muslim is also needed to join her. I also need candidates for the other filming segments which will take place in the following weeks.

A few weeks later, NBC will fly all the filmed participants to New York City to interview them as a group about their experience and thoughts on discrimination they've faced in America, especially in light of the times we live in (war on terror, 9-11, etc.). The show, if approved by NBC (highly likely), is expected to air sometime this summer.

What I need from interested candidates is an email with an attached clear photograph, a resume, and contact information. I also need basic information such as age, ethnic background, accomplishments, etc.

The sooner I can get this the better and please don't make emails too long. I will then submit a group of candidates to NBC so they can choose the people for the show.

Please forward this to all Muslim lists you can. Because of the upcoming filming in Virginia, this is pretty time-sensitive. My contact information is below.

Salam,

Tarek El-Messidi



another update email:
Salam,
A couple of days ago, I sent out the email below regarding the NBC Dateline producer looking for Muslim males to be filmed. Alhamdulillah, I've been flooded with responses that will be forwarded to them soon. I just wanted to send an update that they decided to postpone the filming at the NASCAR event by one weekend (until April 8th). It's still not too late to submit your information but the sooner, the better.

Also, a couple of sisters have inquired about submitting info. While NBC did mention that they prefer male candidates (because they feel that people are less likely to show discrimination to a woman out of courtesy), I will also forward emails I receive from sisters. They may consider filming another hijabi sister if she's very qualified for the role. Please read the initial email I sent below about what to submit.

Again, please forward this out to as many email lists as possible.

Salam,

Tarek El-Messidi
_______________________________________________________

does anyone else think this is fucked up? as michelle pointed out on her site "Catch that? The apparent "sting" involves targeting Nascar and other sporting events. 'Cause that's presumably where the fair and balanced NBC news staff thinks all the bigots are."
 

PuffnScruff

Well-Known Member
#3
they arent even reporting the news, they are just making their own news.

they are placing these people that are going "undercover" into sporting events where alcohol is widely consumed. people act in ways they wouldnt normaly act or behaive when under the influence. i mean people at those events get tanked and do know what they are saying half the time

i cant help but wonder how different of an outcome they would get if they put their "undercover operatives" in a shopping mall or college campus.
 

XIAN

New Member
#4
The goal of the Dateline is to show prejudice against Muslims right? Then that's all they're gonna show. Of course it's not fair, but Dateline, like almost every other news show, has an agenda.

Malkin is a Fox News Contributor, so I'm not sure she should be the one throwing stones.
~peace~
 

PuffnScruff

Well-Known Member
#5
XIAN said:
The goal of the Dateline is to show prejudice against Muslims right? Then that's all they're gonna show. Of course it's not fair, but Dateline, like almost every other news show, has an agenda.

Malkin is a Fox News Contributor, so I'm not sure she should be the one throwing stones.
~peace~
she's been on msnbc and cnn so i really dont see your point

and of course they have an agenda, what i am trying to do is point out the unfairness of the MSM and see if others agree with me that this isnt just isnt right.
 

XIAN

New Member
#6
PuffnScruff said:
she's been on msnbc and cnn so i really dont see your point
I'm sorry. I have a bias because I believe Michelle Malkin is a right wing bitch convincing the wealthy American power brokers to not feel guilty about the oppression that they inflict on so many, not only Americans but people all over the world. That and this, which hit a deep nerve for me (and many others) personally:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,124415,00.html


and of course they have an agenda, what i am trying to do is point out the unfairness of the MSM and see if others agree with me that this isnt just isnt right.
Of course this is not right. But the fact remains that Muslims are persecuted by many people in this country, and that is not right either. So if this Dateline shows someone who feels hatred towards Islam the extent of the pain that their hatred causes, and if that someone changes their views, then I think that it's worth it. Who is Dateline harming in this scenario, and who are they benefitting? This is an expose on racism in America. Just because they are searching for the racism, doesn't mean that it is untrue. Sure, there are plenty of people who are not racist, but there are still some who are, and it's the goal of that episode to show us how rediculous that is.
~peace~
 

PuffnScruff

Well-Known Member
#7
XIAN said:
I'm sorry. I have a bias because I believe Michelle Malkin is a right wing bitch convincing the wealthy American power brokers to not feel guilty about the oppression that they inflict on so many, not only Americans but people all over the world. That and this, which hit a deep nerve for me (and many others) personally:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,124415,00.html



Of course this is not right. But the fact remains that Muslims are persecuted by many people in this country, and that is not right either. So if this Dateline shows someone who feels hatred towards Islam the extent of the pain that their hatred causes, and if that someone changes their views, then I think that it's worth it. Who is Dateline harming in this scenario, and who are they benefitting? This is an expose on racism in America. Just because they are searching for the racism, doesn't mean that it is untrue. Sure, there are plenty of people who are not racist, but there are still some who are, and it's the goal of that episode to show us how rediculous that is.
~peace~
we can have a debate about malkin some other time, but she isnt as right winged as most people like to think she is. she just just very opinionated and has ever right to do so. she has a different view that isnt mainstream, that many people agree with, not many of them are as wealthy as you might think.
As for what she said about the tupac book, she has some good and laughable points.


the big problem i have with the dateline thing is they are not reporting the new. they are creating the news.

and why are they looking for people that "look muslim" i mean wtf is that?

to me this whole thing is a scam.

and lets say that one or even two people in the whole entire crowd scream racist words to these people, they are going to spin it as if everyone at these events or most people there are racist. they are going to make nascar, which is looked at as a redkneck sport dominated by white people, look like a bunch of racist.

i am almost certain that if someone stands up for the people and tell those that may scream racist words to stfu, they wont show it.
 

AmerikazMost

Well-Known Member
#8
This is something I would have expected from a reality TV show, not a news source.

Then again, TV news isn't really news anymore. It's a bunch of exciting or interesting or controversial snippets with no real substance strung together to get a viewer's attention.
 

dee

New Member
#10
wut about oprah when she had those 2 families switch from black to white an vice versa to see wut kinda racism or negative feelings they would recieve...same thing...an people ate that up...an btw dateline is not a like a news show it'z more like a news magazine kinda like remember that show inside edition...anyway it does editorials not like daily news shit...i believe there is way too much accepted anti-arab racism an if this helps bring it to light so it can be resolved then all the more power to it...if this wuz about a black man going to a white golf club or somethin evryone wouldn't be sayin shit about it cept praise...alotta peeps need to stop worryin bout wut makes us different as opposed to wut makes us the same...alotta peeps on this board too...paece
 

PuffnScruff

Well-Known Member
#11
dee said:
wut about oprah when she had those 2 families switch from black to white an vice versa to see wut kinda racism or negative feelings they would recieve...same thing...an people ate that up...an btw dateline is not a like a news show it'z more like a news magazine kinda like remember that show inside edition...anyway it does editorials not like daily news shit...i believe there is way too much accepted anti-arab racism an if this helps bring it to light so it can be resolved then all the more power to it...if this wuz about a black man going to a white golf club or somethin evryone wouldn't be sayin shit about it cept praise...alotta peeps need to stop worryin bout wut makes us different as opposed to wut makes us the same...alotta peeps on this board too...paece
well dateline tried it once already and got no reaction. at least not the ones they wanted. so i think that alone should say something. and the fact that they are going to keep going back and trying over and over again till they get what they want says something even more about nbc. not to mention how their journalistic skills suck ass since they planned on going to a nascar event in VA on saturday when the race is in TX that day.
and on a side note, this "much accepted anti-arab racism" in this country, i dont see it. i see it on tv, but i dont see it my every day life. i dont see on college campuses that i go on and i dont see it in public. i see it on tv shows, and i see it blown out of proportion by the MSM.
 

XIAN

New Member
#12
Have you seen Crash? But you would call that liberalism right? I can give you an example of it just the other day I was in a cafe at Barnes and Noble, and these people were talking about immigration and how "Mexicans are ruining our country." So you have to remember this isn't the 3rd Reich, racism is subtle in this country but it's there and it has adverse effects on the way that children are raised psychologically and the way that lawmakers (and the people who vote for them) treat the lower class, which is dominated by minorities if you consider the populations. In segregation there is animosity between people, and an example of that is what will probably happen when a person of Middle-Easter descent goes to a Nascar event in the South.
Michelle Malkin is a person who is trying to convince you that this wouldn't happen, that the people in charge and the people who are nationalists (Americans of mostly European descent) should NOT feel guilt towards or compassion for the people who need it so badly. And that is evident in Hip-hop music (such as Makaveli's), and so that's where you need to look if you wanna "see it," or rather the effects of "it." Or ask any Sociology Ph.D., and they'll tell you. Or get on stage in a protestant church in Alabama, and ask them what they think about Islam. Go to NYC and ask the white people about terrorism laws, and then ask the black people, and then the Middle Eastern people.

And dee you were basically saying what I was thinking: That yeah, this may seem unfair, but what's the bigger problem here? Is it that maybe they're gonna further the stereotype that people who like Nascar are racist rednecks, or that, if they didn't show this report, maybe some of the people who would've changed their views, won't be able to, and they'll continue to be racist (and by racist, it's meant having racist thoughts which eventually affect some action in their life). To me, racism is the bigger problem, because when you're racist, you are setting apart an entire race from yourself, and therefore you are less likely to feel equal with them, respect for them, and a general love for them.

And Puff your signature is right about the MSM, but to me they don't go nearly as far as they should into the problems of the people, particularly the people who are suffering in this nation and all around the world. How does Malkin and Fox News LET it continue? Not only that, but they are trying to convincing others to not do anything, while leftists like me are trying to tell others to do something about it. Because socialism can save the world, and I don't think that "the right" can, nor do they want to. In fact, they want us to believe it doesn't need to be saved...
PuffnScruff said:
i dont see on college campuses that i go on
And that's why there's hope...
~peace~
 

PuffnScruff

Well-Known Member
#13
XIAN said:
Have you seen Crash? But you would call that liberalism right? I can give you an example of it just the other day I was in a cafe at Barnes and Noble, and these people were talking about immigration and how "Mexicans are ruining our country." So you have to remember this isn't the 3rd Reich, racism is subtle in this country but it's there and it has adverse effects on the way that children are raised psychologically and the way that lawmakers (and the people who vote for them) treat the lower class, which is dominated by minorities if you consider the populations. In segregation there is animosity between people, and an example of that is what will probably happen when a person of Middle-Easter descent goes to a Nascar event in the South.
Michelle Malkin is a person who is trying to convince you that this wouldn't happen, that the people in charge and the people who are nationalists (Americans of mostly European descent) should NOT feel guilt towards or compassion for the people who need it so badly. And that is evident in Hip-hop music (such as Makaveli's), and so that's where you need to look if you wanna "see it," or rather the effects of "it." Or ask any Sociology Ph.D., and they'll tell you. Or get on stage in a protestant church in Alabama, and ask them what they think about Islam. Go to NYC and ask the white people about terrorism laws, and then ask the black people, and then the Middle Eastern people.

And dee you were basically saying what I was thinking: That yeah, this may seem unfair, but what's the bigger problem here? Is it that maybe they're gonna further the stereotype that people who like Nascar are racist rednecks, or that, if they didn't show this report, maybe some of the people who would've changed their views, won't be able to, and they'll continue to be racist (and by racist, it's meant having racist thoughts which eventually affect some action in their life). To me, racism is the bigger problem, because when you're racist, you are setting apart an entire race from yourself, and therefore you are less likely to feel equal with them, respect for them, and a general love for them.

And Puff your signature is right about the MSM, but to me they don't go nearly as far as they should into the problems of the people, particularly the people who are suffering in this nation and all around the world. How does Malkin and Fox News LET it continue? Not only that, but they are trying to convincing others to not do anything, while leftists like me are trying to tell others to do something about it. Because socialism can save the world, and I don't think that "the right" can, nor do they want to. In fact, they want us to believe it doesn't need to be saved...

And that's why there's hope...
~peace~
yes ive seen crash, my thoughts on it can be seen here
http://www.streethop.com/forum/thread159038.html

why does everyone always bring up fox news? how many other MSM outlets are there? any given tv news report has about 20mins or 40 mins or real on air time. they report about what is going on in the country today(what is making the news that given day), sometimes the world, but they have to choose what is going to be on the air based on what there viewers want. if you want to see more wordly issues write a letter to the editor and tell as many people as you can to do the same until they get the idea that this is what the viewers want.

why is everyone trying to discredit malkin? if you dont like her fine, but that doesnt mean she doesnt bring up good relevant points. you may see it as her trying convince people i see it as her giving her opinion while giving people information to make up their own minds.

CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS try to convince people they are right all the time. Remember CBS and the 04 elections?

and why are you trying to turn this into a political thing with the left and the right. this is has nothing to do with politics

like i mentioned they went to a nascar event already with their "muslim looking"?( i.e. the stereotypical muslim wearing a robe and turban with a beard,) men and did not get the reaction they wanted. so they are going to keep on trying till they do. it is almost like they are trying to provoke racism instead of showing racism.

you would never see any Dateline send some christian looking people to Riyadh and see how things work out.
or have some white guy with hidden cameras, put a George Bush T-Shirt on him and have him walk down a street in Pakistan.
 

XIAN

New Member
#14
This is political because:
-You have an obvious right-wing slant
-Malkin has a painfully obvious right-wing slant

So it is my assumption that you would not say shit if this was directed at the right (see www.mediamatters.org), or in fact you may try to defend them. The motivation for you in posting was not to showcase the inaccuracy of the media, but rather the liberal-ness of the media. So what I was saying was that this is a matter of left-wing propaganda (which is actually NBC, a group of capitalists trying to find a juicy bait...which is actually not at all left-wing) vs. right-wing propaganda of Michelle Malkin telling people:
MM: "Don't believe the democrats! Don't believe that people are suffering, and we can do something about it! Don't believe that immigrants or inmates deserve rights! Don't believe that equality is necessary or good!"
So now, people like you go to her blog all,
PnS: "But Michelle, what can I believe in?"
And she'll say,
MM: "Puff, believe in your President, believe in his war, believe in the real citizens of this nation, the hard working white people who run it! Believe that there is little or no such thing as unfairness and injustice and prejudice and racism and hate! And Puff, even if it does exist, who cares? It's not your fault, is it? Is it your responsibility? Hell no! Those “people“ need to get off their asses and work, just like you! Oh and Puff? Did you know that I heard that John Kerry shot himself in the Vietnam War, on purpose!? Yeah, that’s what I heard… "
So now she gives you an excuse for things like racial profiling and lowered taxes and “walls” at our borders, and wars over nothing and “patriot” acts. She tells you that Clinton was a much worse President than he gets credit for, that the millions wasted on his sex scandal was worth it, that was okay to lock up Japanese Americans during WWII because of their race, that it’s okay for a government to lie to it’s people, it’s okay that there are free trade laws without fair trade laws, that it’s okay that the MSM gets contracts off of wars, that they are founded and run by capitalists, that they play on our fears, that they feed us not what we want but what we’ll buy. And people eat her words up with a spoon because they like feeling that they’ve done nothing wrong, that their parents have done nothing wrong, that this country has done nothing wrong.
And that’s the difference: I don’t like feeling like I owe someone something, but I know that I do, and I’m not trying to run from that. I know that people suffer, because I’ve experienced it myself. So I dream of a place where there is equality and that is called socialism, and socialism is reached from a leftist, compassionate path. On the leftist path, symbols of inequality are broken down and destroyed. Michelle Malkin and Fox News are not on the leftist path, in fact they are part of a force trying to put a road-block on the path. Capitalism, imperialism, militarism, fascism, are all forces trying to put road-blocks on the path, but they can never last.
Complaining about attempting an attack on racism is a road-block, and that’s why I don’t understand it.

But realize this isn’t at all personal, it just seems that when you respond you think it is, and when you do that you’re not understanding what I mean,
~peace~
 

PuffnScruff

Well-Known Member
#15
i love how you know so much about me just from the internet. oh did i tell you i am a registrared democrat:eek:and that in the 04 elections, my first time voting, i voted Green, but you already knew that right. since you know me oh so well.:) i just happen to agree with more on the right because the modern day democrats are run by a crazy person named dean and most modern day main stream liberals cant stick to an issue to save their live and change on issues when it might make then look better in the public eye and might get them relected to office. not to mention the obvious lies.

whats the point of bringing up malkin she is not the issue at hand. she just reported on the issue first before anyone.

there is a difference between a liberal biased media show and a opinionated blog.

"MM: "Don't believe the democrats! Don't believe that people are suffering, and we can do something about it! Don't believe that immigrants or inmates deserve rights! Don't believe that equality is necessary or good!"
^^^ look at that you have this all wrong. when has malkin ever said immigrants dont deserve rights? i'm pretty sure i have heard her say that her parents were immigrants. what she has spoken out against is ILLEGAL immigrants people that break the law to get into this country while people that go about it the legal and proper way have to wait while amnistey is given to the people who break the law.

you assuming i go to her blog and believe in what she says is so fucking stupid. i read many blogs every day just to see what people are saying. sometimes i agree with them sometimes i dont. it is a place were people get information that is not being said in the MSM

MM: "Puff, believe in your President, believe in his war, believe in the real citizens of this nation, the hard working white people who run it! Believe that there is little or no such thing as unfairness and injustice and prejudice and racism and hate! And Puff, even if it does exist, who cares? It's not your fault, is it? Is it your responsibility? Hell no! Those “people“ need to get off their asses and work, just like you! Oh and Puff? Did you know that I heard that John Kerry shot himself in the Vietnam War, on purpose!? Yeah, that’s what I heard… "

^what is this racist shit. "hard working white people.." and all that rant just proves is that you really dont ever read her blog at all and you just assume that you know everything.

you know what you should do some research because Kerry really did shoot himself in Vietnam along with some other discraceful things to get his 3 purple heart tickets out of there. His journal he kept was released to the public before you were even born. he wrote about it in there. and no Malkin did tell me that.
'

She tells you that Clinton was a much worse President than he gets credit for, that the millions wasted on his sex scandal was worth it,

:laugh: it is a lot deeper than a sex scandal. that was just the sweet ice cream on top of the cake. do some research. clinton did alot worse things than get a bj in the oval office a few dozen times.
and yes i believe clinton will go down in history has a pretty bad president but its not because of the sex scandals, notice how i didnt say scandal, there is more than one sex scandal with clinton, not to mention how he copped a feel on a congresswomans breasts in the oval office. people always want to bring up the sex scandal. but what about the dozens of other scandals that took place during his adminstartion that he was involved in? are yo aware of those? or is that something the the left tries to sweep under the rug along with all their other scandals. cause that is what the left in this country does when it comes to scandlas they cover up while the right cleans up.

what you dont seem to realize is that before 96 there was only Left wing news in this country. newspapers mostly left, tv all left. what fox news, the internet, and radio have down is help to balance out everything.

this country is an overwhelming majority concervative. by having 1 cable tv news show that is conservative compared to CNN,MSNBC,NBC,CBS,ABC it is trying to balance things out. and you know why FOX news has more ratings than CNN and MSNBC combined times 4, for a reason, because they dont spend time doing the same boring president bashing over and over, they dont spend time on whats going on in hollywood. they break news stories first and they report on what they know their viewers want.

FNC, the internet, and radio talk shows just helped to bring and equal balance to the news information that is given to the public. what is so bad with that? because you dont agree with how they may vote? that is just dumb. if you dont like it dont read, change the channel.
 

Jokerman

Well-Known Member
#16
XIAN said:
MM: "Puff, believe in your President, believe in his war, believe in the real citizens of this nation, the hard working white people who run it! And Puff, even if it does exist, who cares? Oh and Puff?
I've also seen her mention Puff by name.:eek: It's not fair.
 

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